Ireland to jail anyone with an offensive meme on their phone!

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Ireland to jail anyone with an offensive meme on their phone!


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So, the question arises - is this a Soviet style law that prohibits speech on media that are not located within the jurisdiction? Is it a control on citizens rather than a control on licensed media?

Thus, I assume that this website is based in the US. If we post our remarks here are we liable to these laws? While posting on X may overlap into the state's jurisdiction, is this website liable to similar control? Can the state prosecute material that is not posted from an Irish IP address? What about sending a letter commenting on affairs in Ireland to an organisation abroad? Is this subject to penalty if deemed offensive or corrosive to their authority by the government?

What about the reach into the public realm? Is a private website that is only viewed by a relatively small number of people, rather than a newspaper that has a national circulation, within the authority of the state to legislate? Does the state have the power to make any law it wishes to?

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After Bolshevicks took power they quickly realized that hate speech was the main threat to multinational empires like USSR(or EU).
So Criminal Code introduced in 1926 had article 58-2 with 2 years of prison for hate speech against other ethnicities. In 1930 it was increased up to the death penalty.
After Stalin's death death penalty was removed
As a conscript, I had a chance to observe how quickly hate can start to grow. When we arrived at Karabakh to restore law and order, the guys who were there all the time told us that everything started within a few days from a small conflict. Armenians turned against Azerbaijanis despite they were living in peace for many decades.
Stopping hate speech wont work, hate speech is like spots on the skin that show that real problem inside your body
It might buy some time, but one day it will nuke with many innocent people killed
The real problems must be fixed first
 

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Anything can be prosecuted and if found innocent, you are still ruined financially.
 

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The Incompetent Authoritarianism Of The Irish State

On the curiously incompetent Irish State and the Empire's Celtic Problem​

NOV 28

Readers will no doubt be aware of the recent migrant stabbing spree in Ireland that resulted in fiery but peaceful scenes erupting on the streets of the capital, Dublin. The following day I went in search of ‘‘takes’’ that people were putting out there to give their spin on events. People in closer proximity to this publication such as John Carter and The Prudentialist were fast out of the gates with articles infinitely superior to anything the mainstream had to offer. But then again, what even was the mainstream response to a migrant stabbing kids on the streets of Dublin resulting in angry demonstrations? Searching the YouTube algorithm inevitably led me to an interview the detestable leftist Owen Jones had just conducted with a female Irish journalist.
You can watch Jones’s interview here (don’t bother) but it’s hardly necessary because here is my own condensed version of it:


 

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The Irish have much bigger things to worry about, other than amusing memes the 'government' may find 'hateful'

Get a flip-phone if you are that worried.

This is just a distraction from the ongoing existential destruction of the Irish race and homeland
 

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First reported on Nov 6th so prior to the Dublin riots. The government are clearly aware of how these laws are implemented and is following British example.

Here's some comment on it [emphasis added]:

'The conviction was based on the implication, not the meme’s explicit content.

This ruling by Judge Ikram introduces a troubling standard in legal interpretation. By inferring a grossly offensive meaning from a meme and considering this sufficient for a conviction, the court has ventured into the realm of punishing perceived implications, a move that blurs the lines between actual speech and inferred meanings.

This latest development, where judges adjudicate on the supposed implications of a message, escalates the risk of arbitrary judicial decisions. The problem is compounded in the realm of digital communication, where context and tone are crucial and often misunderstood.

The concern is that now, even private messages can be criminalized based on a judge’s own interpretation and mind-reading, rather than the facts at hand or actual acts carried out.

This precedent sets a dangerous tone for freedom of expression, especially online where satire and irony are common, and messages are often private.'

Former UK Police Officer Convicted for “Implication” in “Offensive” Social Media Message Raises Major Free Speech Concerns - Reclaim the Net


Here's something about a possible biological vector for the diminishment of individual thinking. I don't know about it but the guy appears to be credentialed and is plausible. He's interviewed here by Naomi Wolf. He does drift into considerations of deliberate action on the part of the authorities.

Basically, the argument is that our autobiographical memory is directed from the hippocampus - a region in our brain. In Alzheimers, this region is significantly impaired so damage to it is debilitating.

The hippocampus is an archive of our memory. It is the location of index cells which direct the mind to the stored memories. It updates this index set everyday. It creates new cells to do this and the hippocampus grows throughout our lifetimes. It enables us to learn and constitutes a significant part of our identity.

The spike protein inhibits the growth of new brain cells - as does isolation due to a suppression in growth hormones normally created during social interaction.

This causes the hippocampus to become static. The person is bounded and, while they do not suffer the same symptoms of someone with senility, they have reduced mental scope and function.

As the hippocampus has to write up the day's experience, it is forces to rewrite existing index cells which erases previous autobiographical information. Resulting from this, there is a displacement of personality as the new memories overwrite previous experience.

Nehls maintains that the supply of information is critical here and new information, carefully controlled and charged, is an avenue for hacking a person into something analogous to a programmable unit (along the lines of the trauma bond).

So, narratives become enshrined in personality and criticism of them become, rather than an object of debate, existential attacks on core personality.

We have the numerous examples of NPC memes (probably soon to be illegal) - this may give us a scientific explanation of the phenomenon.

Dr Nehls was cut short in this interview as Naomi had what seemed a technological malfunction. He should be given another airing and seems to be on the German speaking internet quite a bit. I'd like to see a more systematic treatment. Could be a book selling ploy but might not be. It's interesting at least.


 

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First reported on Nov 6th so prior to the Dublin riots. The government are clearly aware of how these laws are implemented and is following British example.

Here's some comment on it [emphasis added]:

'The conviction was based on the implication, not the meme’s explicit content.

This ruling by Judge Ikram introduces a troubling standard in legal interpretation. By inferring a grossly offensive meaning from a meme and considering this sufficient for a conviction, the court has ventured into the realm of punishing perceived implications, a move that blurs the lines between actual speech and inferred meanings.

This latest development, where judges adjudicate on the supposed implications of a message, escalates the risk of arbitrary judicial decisions. The problem is compounded in the realm of digital communication, where context and tone are crucial and often misunderstood.

The concern is that now, even private messages can be criminalized based on a judge’s own interpretation and mind-reading, rather than the facts at hand or actual acts carried out.

This precedent sets a dangerous tone for freedom of expression, especially online where satire and irony are common, and messages are often private.'

Former UK Police Officer Convicted for “Implication” in “Offensive” Social Media Message Raises Major Free Speech Concerns - Reclaim the Net


Here's something about a possible biological vector for the diminishment of individual thinking. I don't know about it but the guy appears to be credentialed and is plausible. He's interviewed here by Naomi Wolf. He does drift into considerations of deliberate action on the part of the authorities.

Basically, the argument is that our autobiographical memory is directed from the hippocampus - a region in our brain. In Alzheimers, this region is significantly impaired so damage to it is debilitating.

The hippocampus is an archive of our memory. It is the location of index cells which direct the mind to the stored memories. It updates this index set everyday. It creates new cells to do this and the hippocampus grows throughout our lifetimes. It enables us to learn and constitutes a significant part of our identity.

The spike protein inhibits the growth of new brain cells - as does isolation due to a suppression in growth hormones normally created during social interaction.

This causes the hippocampus to become static. The person is bounded and, while they do not suffer the same symptoms of someone with senility, they have reduced mental scope and function.

As the hippocampus has to write up the day's experience, it is forces to rewrite existing index cells which erases previous autobiographical information. Resulting from this, there is a displacement of personality as the new memories overwrite previous experience.

Nehls maintains that the supply of information is critical here and new information, carefully controlled and charged, is an avenue for hacking a person into something analogous to a programmable unit (along the lines of the trauma bond).

So, narratives become enshrined in personality and criticism of them become, rather than an object of debate, existential attacks on core personality.

We have the numerous examples of NPC memes (probably soon to be illegal) - this may give us a scientific explanation of the phenomenon.

Dr Nehls was cut short in this interview as Naomi had what seemed a technological malfunction. He should be given another airing and seems to be on the German speaking internet quite a bit. I'd like to see a more systematic treatment. Could be a book selling ploy but might not be. It's interesting at least.



It's sickening tyranny and totalitarian overreaching.
 

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It's sickening tyranny and totalitarian overreaching.

Gript was interviewed on System Update - Glenn Greenwald's show - that aired yesterday about the censorship/sedition legislation. He starts at 49:30. Rumble is slow loading. Scallan does well - he's solid on his feet.


 

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Gript was interviewed on System Update - Glenn Greenwald's show - that aired yesterday about the censorship/sedition legislation. He starts at 49:30. Rumble is slow loading. Scallan does well - he's solid on his feet.



This is what happens to Ireland when ~ The Irish Government / Irish Politicians Serve Foreign Masters.
 
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