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Why don't you put one of them up in your gaff in Sligo Love?
I don't support the idea, wouldn't do it
Thanks for the reply.
Already there's a large established system operating in the town, with considerable building construction ongoing, plus there's further settlement happening in other local towns/villages.
The refugees already are getting plenty enough.
The thing is that Sligo has always taken in refugees so the people were acclimatized to strangers in town long before this recent mass dumping occurring.

My reply regarding 'getting what's given' is to do with what the Government explain as their role in providing international asylum and in turn what government expect locals to take on board out-of-the-blue (no planning or plan available) into existing communities/parishes.

What are you going to do?
 

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War torn countries, wars of Nato's making so the refugees really are Nato's responsibility but they have delegated Ireland through the UN to accept responsibility on their behalf.
It appears there is little choice but to get what we're given.
You start from a shaky premise. You dont know where they are from. Neither do the communities getting them. The vast majority of Ukraine and Syria are not war torn. So there is no need whatsoever for them to leave those countries. Every Ukrainian and Syrian in Ireland should be sent back as there is no need for them to be here.


Syria's President Assad would 'welcome home refugees'​

In an exclusive interview with Sky News Arabia, he blamed the country's economic situation as the reason why refugees are not returning to their homeland.
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Wednesday 9 August 2023 23:14, UK
 
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I'm going to continue to push for them all to be sent home.
How do you manage that?

That van of yours, you said it can be used as a camper. Couldn't you throw an African in there?
What a strange thing for you to suggest? I thought you'd have joined an NGO to organise effective returns or something similar.
Sure they have Accommodation and Jobs here already, and the building currently being done is for them too.
 

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Those two men, whose heads were were chopped off by the one of the Professor's fakeugees, surely they left one if not two houses empty in Sligo. They could be used.
But sure the Ukrainians have probably already been moved in, apparently they get priority.

I'm glad you mentioned fakeugees because that's an entirely different group to what I've been referring to.

We need to have clarity on what's going on which is why I mentioned Local based NGO's for locals and PP's who would have the responsibility to be watchdog, form their own authority, make public plans actually public and hold the government to account.

Something more effective than street shouting and chanting get them out out out.

Any more ideas to share?
 

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How do you manage that?
How about setting up a system that everyone who wants 'refugees' here has to take one or two into their home.

That means you'll get one Afghani in your loft and a Somalian in your camper van.

And those of us who don't want them don't have to take them.

Agreed Mr Love?
 

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How about setting up a system that everyone who wants 'refugees' here has to take one or two into their home.

That means you'll get one Afghani in your loft and a Somalian in your camper van.

And those of us who don't want them don't have to take them.

Agreed Mr Love?

But Myles, now the current colors of FFGN are shining brightly upon your lapel as you too try to shoe horn people into places where they don't fit-in or belong.

The "system" must be designed to keep everybody happy.

We don't need tent cities or dodgy lodgers, we need popup modular estates complete with shops and factories.

New temporary towns!!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB_JpNFzawc


We need new land to put 'em on too . . .

The homeless, students, associated NGO'ers and related travelers can live there.

I'm considering genuine war refugees here, okay??

Passport shredders are sent to the Dept of Deportation.
 

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But Myles, now the current colors of FFGN are shining brightly upon your lapel as you too try to shoe horn people into places where they don't fit-in or belong.

The "system" must be designed to keep everybody happy.

We don't need tent cities or dodgy lodgers, we need popup modular estates complete with shops and factories.

New temporary towns!!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB_JpNFzawc


We need new land to put 'em on too . . .

The homeless, students, associated NGO'ers and related travelers can live there.

I'm considering genuine war refugees here, okay??

Passport shredders are sent to the Dept of Deportation.

and who are giving the job of defining 'genuine war refugees' to?
 

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Y/our new founded NGO's who work in concert with the airports, immigration authority, planter NGO's, etc etc.

Perhaps a government coalition PP will be interested.
so the recipient communities have the final say on the arrival of the refugees?
 

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Ms Love you're a silly girl.

You're clearly mad for brown lads so just fit as many into your passion wagon and be done with it


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They should have official inputs and controls.

There are solutions to be found, but first we need the data.

Affected communities must have access to the development plans and options.
inputs and controls sound vague. Do they have the final say in who comes in or not. plans and options sound equally vague.
 

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the Professor is talking out of her hat.

The Irish government as of today gives control of immigrants into Ireland over to Europe.


Helen McEntee plans to opt us into the new EU pact on asylum and migration. You can read the details of the pact here (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/...-in-reform-of-eu-asylum-and-migration-system/) but what any of it means for Ireland in practical terms is unclear and it's likely full of exploitable loopholes. Take this line:

>When an applicant is in the possession of a diploma (which is not older than 6 years) of an EU member state education establishment, that member state will be responsible for examining the application for international protection.

Does mean we'll see start seeing online Irish diploma mills catering to Nigerian asylum swindlers. Who knows...
 

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inputs and controls sound vague. Do they have the final say in who comes in or not. plans and options sound equally vague.

Preliminary suggestions are vague - Data will inform us and instruct decisions not known or understood as yet.

Plans? Yes the NGO's, authorities and Government have National & Local Development Plans (NDP's)
That's their Job.

Now my suggestion here is for affected communities to up-skill and get in on the initial planning.
 

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Preliminary suggestions are vague - Data will inform us and instruct decisions not known or understood as yet.

Plans? Yes the NGO's, authorities and Government have National & Local Development Plans (NDP's)
That's their Job.

Now my suggestion here is for affected communities to up-skill and get in on the initial planning.
get in on the initial planning?

doesn't like NO being an option then.
 

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the Professor is talking out of her hat.

Yes, i'm not qualified and have been talking off the top of my head but these ideas stem from considering solutions as yet unmentioned, IMO

Good on you for providing new relevant data, also I think you'll find that a united community has power and a part to play in developing their area to their satisfaction.

Do you think occasional protest marches alone will bring improvement and solve the problems?

Do you think that forced repatriation and mass deportation are realistic options??

Pot calling kettle? 🤨
 

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Yes, i'm not qualified and have been talking off the top of my head but these ideas stem from considering solutions as yet unmentioned, IMO

Good on you for providing new relevant data, also I think you'll find that a united community has power and a part to play in developing their area to their satisfaction.

Do you think occasional protest marches alone will bring improvement and solve the problems?

Do you think that forced repatriation and mass deportation are realistic options??

Pot calling kettle? 🤨
your solution amounts to community participating in their plantation. Being given a role in saying Yes and saying No is not an option in your solution.

the communities are saying NO now and you wont accept that. Saying NO after upskilling, participating in the committees, looking at drafts, plans and looking at 'wow modular housing' etc wont be possible in your world.

evidently one solution that you've wrote off is repatriation and mass deportation. So your solution is we put up and shut up.

Amazing thinking right there Einstein. You are definitely helping.
 

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I do anyway, I think these protests are the most important thing happening now in modern Ireland, and I hope everybody supports them to the best of their ability.
Prof doesnt like them. She's prefer to see some committee working to plant our communities.

My opinion is that she's is lucky they've remained peaceful protest. My solution would direct action any against cunt involved in smoothing the way for the plantation.
 

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evidently one solution that you've wrote off is repatriation and mass deportation. So your solution is we put up and shut up.

Steady on there tripper, I certainly did not write off the above, I asked you about those popular mooted suggestions

Do you think occasional protest marches alone will bring improvement and solve the problems?

Do you think that forced repatriation and mass deportation are realistic options??

I also asked for massively increased community participation, quite the opposite to what you imply in reply

So your solution is we put up and shut up.

Crazy stuff, what a surprise.😖


Anyway, at least we can rely on the paper for some semblance of reality and some existing local data of interest!!

 

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Prof doesnt like them. She's prefer to see some committee working to plant our communities.

My opinion is that she's is lucky they've remained peaceful protest. My solution would direct action any against cunt involved in smoothing the way for the plantation.
We've seen the tough guy responses already on O'Connell street, as the guys in prison now wonder was the violent protest worth the result for their community?? Any benefits you could see?

Does burning a fleet of buses or a few paint warehouses lead to a positive result for your cause?
 

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We've seen the tough guy responses already on O'Connell street, as the guys in prison now wonder was the violent protest worth the result for their community?? Any benefits you could see?

Does burning a fleet of buses or a few paint warehouses lead to a positive result for your cause?
you have called sending them back as unrealistic, you have not called for communities wishes for them not to be planted to be respected. You dont want street protests, you dont want direct action.

You want to the Irish people to acquiesce in their own plantation after the facade of involvement in committees in which the only accepted outcome is plantation.

You are another plantation enabler although you think you are cuter than the rest of them.

but you're a 'put up and shut up' merchant all the same.
 

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you have called sending them back as unrealistic, you have not called for communities wishes for them not to be planted to be respected. You dont want street protests, you dont want direct action.

You want to the Irish people to acquiesce in their own plantation after the facade of involvement in committees in which the only accepted outcome is plantation.

You are another plantation enabler although you think you are cuter than the rest of them.

but you're a 'put up and shut up' merchant all the same.
Invented in your head. bad tripping big time . . . why?? . . . . Because you are unable to respond constructively and slander instead.
Demonstrably untrustworthy and unreliable, threatening too - Yuck!!
 

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Anyway, thanks for your inputs and comments it certainly helps me gain a better more up to date understanding of what makes Ireland and your yard, the way it is today.
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Invented in your head. bad tripping big time . . . why?? . . . . Because you are unable to respond constructively and slander instead.
Demonstrably untrustworthy and unreliable, threatening too - Yuck!!
so many big words amounting to nothing but 'we must take all the fakeugees'. No surprise that your 'solution' coincides with that of the Regime.
 

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I do anyway, I think these protests are the most important thing happening now in modern Ireland, and I hope everybody supports them to the best of their ability.
I have been supporting the protestors who refuse to accept mass planting on their doorsteps, both here and at home.
However I'm having second thoughts due to the fact of not directly experiencing the problems of some affected areas, and consequently find that their communities, lives and situation are none of my business.
I've learned here that my contribution is unwelcome and irrelevant. A valuable lesson.
 

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