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<blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 120671" data-attributes="member: 353"><p>Incorrect James, this isn't a post of "substance." </p><p></p><p>It's a dated, lazy ad hominem quote from a participant in a weak debate from 15 years ago which you’ve gone through all the trouble of copying and pasting. </p><p></p><p>To dismiss Intelligent Design with the blanket claim that it has “no science, no theory, and no research program” is not only inaccurate but betrays a deeper intellectual laziness. </p><p></p><p>Historically, scientific breakthroughs often began with the identification of flaws in dominant paradigms—pointing out these gaps isn’t the end of the process, it’s the beginning.</p><p></p><p>ID isn’t about proving Yahweh in a lab coat; it’s about highlighting where materialist explanations fail to account for the observable complexity and specified information embedded in life. Claims of irreducible complexity, the fine-tuning of molecular machines, and the inadequacy of random mutations to generate new functional information are testable critiques grounded in data.</p><p></p><p>But instead of addressing these points, the quote retreats to accusations of religious bias—a transparent attempt to smear rather than engage. Ironically, the very theory its defenders champion, Darwinian evolution, suffers from glaring evidentiary deficiencies, particularly in explaining the origin of the vast genetic code underpinning life. To critique others for exposing these weaknesses while ignoring their own is the equivalent of condemning the speck in ID’s eye while ignoring the plank lodged firmly in evolutionary materialism's own.</p><p></p><p>The vast majority of ID scientists are former evolutionary scientists who have changed their mind based on the evidence before them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tiger, post: 120671, member: 353"] Incorrect James, this isn't a post of "substance." It's a dated, lazy ad hominem quote from a participant in a weak debate from 15 years ago which you’ve gone through all the trouble of copying and pasting. To dismiss Intelligent Design with the blanket claim that it has “no science, no theory, and no research program” is not only inaccurate but betrays a deeper intellectual laziness. Historically, scientific breakthroughs often began with the identification of flaws in dominant paradigms—pointing out these gaps isn’t the end of the process, it’s the beginning. ID isn’t about proving Yahweh in a lab coat; it’s about highlighting where materialist explanations fail to account for the observable complexity and specified information embedded in life. Claims of irreducible complexity, the fine-tuning of molecular machines, and the inadequacy of random mutations to generate new functional information are testable critiques grounded in data. But instead of addressing these points, the quote retreats to accusations of religious bias—a transparent attempt to smear rather than engage. Ironically, the very theory its defenders champion, Darwinian evolution, suffers from glaring evidentiary deficiencies, particularly in explaining the origin of the vast genetic code underpinning life. To critique others for exposing these weaknesses while ignoring their own is the equivalent of condemning the speck in ID’s eye while ignoring the plank lodged firmly in evolutionary materialism's own. The vast majority of ID scientists are former evolutionary scientists who have changed their mind based on the evidence before them. [/QUOTE]
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