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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 132624" data-attributes="member: 353">If you’ve “removed radiometric dating from the equation,” then I’m curious — what exactly are you standing on when you declare the Earth to be unquestionably billions of years old? Because without radiometric dating (which itself rests on a house of assumptions), the idea of deep time becomes speculative at best. Stratigraphy? Circular reasoning abounds. Ice cores? Assumes uniformitarian accumulation. Tree rings? Limited to a few thousand years and stitched together via inference. Once radiometric dating is off the table, your "billions of years" narrative is running on fumes.Calling someone a “buffoon” for questioning the reigning orthodoxy doesn’t make your position stronger — it just reveals how tightly your conclusions are chained to a worldview that requires eons for philosophical, not scientific, reasons. You say a rocky planet with an iron core couldn’t form in thousands of years — but that’s not a conclusion drawn from direct observation; it’s a model-dependent claim that presumes the very timeframes under debate. You assume slow formation because your framework is gradualist. But that’s not an argument — it’s a presupposition.If you're serious about a scientific discussion, then answer this: apart from dating methods that presuppose deep time, what empirical, observational evidence necessitates billions of years for Earth’s formation? Why couldn’t a high-energy, catastrophic process — such as a global flood or rapid geophysical transformation — accomplish in decades what slow models project over aeons? Or put more sharply: how do you falsify the claim that the Earth formed rapidly, if every piece of data you interpret already assumes slowness?</blockquote>

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