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<blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 132644" data-attributes="member: 353"><p>You’ve yet again produced a reply that evades 95% of the substantive points I've raised — including the well-documented issues with dating methods (discordant results, known-age rocks yielding wildly inflated dates, assumptions about initial conditions, etc.), the role of worldview bias in interpreting data, and the historical fact that eons of time weren’t discovered, but <em>demanded</em> by Darwinian theory in order to function at all.</p><p></p><p>Instead, you repeat a vague mantra: “The conditions were different, therefore it must have taken X number of years.” That isn’t an argument — it’s a placeholder for one.</p><p></p><p><strong>What actual evidence can you point to for the specific nature of these “initial conditions” where the earth had no life and then magically produced life? </strong>Not post-hoc assumptions, not extrapolations wrapped in evolutionary presuppositions - but concrete, testable evidence.</p><p></p><p>Let me ask you directly:</p><p></p><p><strong>If your belief in Earth’s age is independent of radiometric dating, then what empirical method — not tautology or inference — gives you confidence in a billions (or any number you like)-of-years timeline, and how do you account for the fact that long ages were <em>themselves inferred</em> to make Darwinian evolution mathematically plausible in the first place?</strong></p><p></p><p>Until you engage with that, you're not discussing — you're just preaching to your own choir.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tiger, post: 132644, member: 353"] You’ve yet again produced a reply that evades 95% of the substantive points I've raised — including the well-documented issues with dating methods (discordant results, known-age rocks yielding wildly inflated dates, assumptions about initial conditions, etc.), the role of worldview bias in interpreting data, and the historical fact that eons of time weren’t discovered, but [I]demanded[/I] by Darwinian theory in order to function at all. Instead, you repeat a vague mantra: “The conditions were different, therefore it must have taken X number of years.” That isn’t an argument — it’s a placeholder for one. [B]What actual evidence can you point to for the specific nature of these “initial conditions” where the earth had no life and then magically produced life? [/B]Not post-hoc assumptions, not extrapolations wrapped in evolutionary presuppositions - but concrete, testable evidence. Let me ask you directly: [B]If your belief in Earth’s age is independent of radiometric dating, then what empirical method — not tautology or inference — gives you confidence in a billions (or any number you like)-of-years timeline, and how do you account for the fact that long ages were [I]themselves inferred[/I] to make Darwinian evolution mathematically plausible in the first place?[/B] Until you engage with that, you're not discussing — you're just preaching to your own choir. [/QUOTE]
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