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<blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 132647" data-attributes="member: 353"><p>Still no evidence.</p><p></p><p>You’ve substituted motivations for arguments, as though identifying my or anyone's presumed reasons for skepticism somehow proves your position. <strong>It doesn’t</strong>. Whether I doubt billions of years because of religion, evolution, or a bad sandwich is <strong>irrelevant</strong> — the burden is still on <em>you</em> to show that the Earth's age is <strong><em>knowable</em> </strong>in any empirical sense without appealing to radiometric dating (which you've removed), or circular assumptions grounded in evolutionary necessity. I've already said the age of the earth is not knowable based on any current method of analysis and explained the reasons for this.</p><p></p><p>Calling it a "feedback loop" is just another way of dodging the central problem: you are claiming certainty about deep time — <em>without</em> any method that could verify such a thing beyond conjecture. That’s not science. That’s narrative.</p><p></p><p>So let’s return to the actual question:</p><p></p><p><strong>What is your independent, testable, empirical basis for knowing the Earth is 4.5 billion years old (or any age that you like), especially after excluding radiometric dating?</strong></p><p></p><p>If your answer is "I just think it is," then let’s not pretend one of us is being scientific while the other is not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tiger, post: 132647, member: 353"] Still no evidence. You’ve substituted motivations for arguments, as though identifying my or anyone's presumed reasons for skepticism somehow proves your position. [B]It doesn’t[/B]. Whether I doubt billions of years because of religion, evolution, or a bad sandwich is [B]irrelevant[/B] — the burden is still on [I]you[/I] to show that the Earth's age is [B][I]knowable[/I] [/B]in any empirical sense without appealing to radiometric dating (which you've removed), or circular assumptions grounded in evolutionary necessity. I've already said the age of the earth is not knowable based on any current method of analysis and explained the reasons for this. Calling it a "feedback loop" is just another way of dodging the central problem: you are claiming certainty about deep time — [I]without[/I] any method that could verify such a thing beyond conjecture. That’s not science. That’s narrative. So let’s return to the actual question: [B]What is your independent, testable, empirical basis for knowing the Earth is 4.5 billion years old (or any age that you like), especially after excluding radiometric dating?[/B] If your answer is "I just think it is," then let’s not pretend one of us is being scientific while the other is not. [/QUOTE]
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