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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fishalt" data-source="post: 64891" data-attributes="member: 228">Whales do have nipples. They are contained under kind of skin flaps which keeps everything hydrodynamic. The design hoqwever is not amazing as you seem to believe. For example, whale calves actually can't even suckle milk properly because their mouths simply don't function this way, and they cannot create any suction. What you're seeing is a kind of 'Jerry-Rigging'; a kind of ersatz nipple-feeding system that is a remnant from their ancestors. No engineer would design such a system, because it is cumbersome, inefficent, problematic and somewhat retarded.The primary mistake you keep making is thinking that EBNS 'knows' anything. It doesn't, and it doesn't need to. Evolution by natural selection works by throwing out random mutations in a given species population, and if these accrue some kind of survival benefit in a practical, real-world setting, they persist in the gene pool simply as a matter of due process.These changes might make no difference at all and still persist in the gene pool, however.For example, I get a snake here called the Coastal Taipan. Its venom is so potent that one bite is enough to kill 100,000 mice. It is also notorious for never dry-biting; that is, whenever it strikes, it hits its prey with everything it's got. Now I ask you, Mr Intelligent design, what exactly is the point of that? The largest thing it ever eats are bandicoots, which are very small mammals, and rats and mice. It only needs to feed once every 1-2 months, also. Venom is extremely energy-intensive to produce. There is absolutely no logical reason for this venom to be as potent as it is. It makes absolutely no sense at all.And that's because nature is blind design. The Taipan doesn't even know it is venomous at all, let alone how venomous it is. The reason its venom is so potent is because...well, there was no reason for it not to get stronger and stronger over time, because this didn't impact its survival rate. Conversely, there was no enviornmental pressure augmenting it to get weaker, either. Millions of years later we end up with an animal pointlessly packing a nuclear weapon; an animal so deadly, for so little reason that it is equivalent to using an ICBM to kill a cockroach.You're going from A to Z without considering everything inbetween. Whales/porpoises would have existed in an intermediary stage of evolution that was markedly different from their current forms. It's possible their common ancestor(S) were something like modern Hippopotamus, a sem-squatic mammal. Something about their environment made them evolve to become fully aquatic over an enormous expanse of time.This article explains quite a lot.<a href="https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1007/s12052-009-0135-2" target="_blank">https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1007/s12052-009-0135-2</a></blockquote>

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