Pakistani Child Rape Gangs in England

Roc. said:
More important than their colour, they were non-Muslim.

Just like the institution of the Irish catholic church viewed children (and women) as worth less than a man, these Muslims viewed non-Muslim children as worth less than a Muslim child.
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So you don't think it matters that they're white, thanks for confirming.
 
Roc. said:
Sickening indeed.

It's the fucking clerics in Pakistan and those other countries with their criminalising sexual activity outside of marriage, persecuting LGB people, and so on that lies at the root of this.

If all sex outside marriage is decreed not normal and even criminal then there's no fucking distinctions left.

I don’t think anyone can fail to notice the parallel with what happened here.
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That's one way of justifying the uncontrollable animalistic basic instincts of the brown dirt that has landed on our shores, I suppose.
Are you sure it wasn't just that these young teenage girls were begging for it or something?
Anything to deflect from the filthy little perpetrators by the looks of it.
You're a sick person, roc/haven
 
Roc. said:
More important than their colour, they were non-Muslim.

Just like the institution of the Irish catholic church viewed children (and women) as worth less than a man, these Muslims viewed non-Muslim children as worth less than a Muslim child.
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Well no, they only marry children of their own backward stone age culture by the looks of it.
 
The Equalizer said:
So you don't think it matters that they're white, thanks for confirming.
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James, I've "confirmed" for you at least hundred times that I don't buy into your habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labelled ‘good’ or ‘bad’. We were talking about why they were targeted. I gave my understanding of causes such as my understanding is.
 
Roc. said:
More important than their colour, they were non-Muslim.

Just like the institution of the Irish catholic church viewed children (and women) as worth less than a man, these Muslims viewed non-Muslim children as worth less than a Muslim child.
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You view the world through a fucked up lens.

More evidence that you’re an old gay.
 
It's not the same as what occurred in Ireland, because it dwarfs what happened here by the sheers scale, numbers and especially the depravity of the abuse.
But particularly because like it or not, or whether you think it's been exaggerated or not, historical clerical abuse and magdalena etc has come to completely define Ireland for a large period of the modern states history. In fact it's the only thing many Irish associate with our past.
Whereas in the UK it has not at all come to define them as a nation. The vast majority of English simply ignore it and act like it never happened. Everything about it is downplayed by the British establishment while its the opposite with our establishment and the crimes of the church.
 
Roc. said:
James, I've "confirmed" for you at least hundred times that I don't buy into your habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labelled ‘good’ or ‘bad’. We were talking about why they were targeted. I gave my understanding of causes such as my understanding is.
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Your "understanding" is that they were "targeted" because they weren't Muslim. Are all non-Muslims white?
 
The Equalizer said:
Your "understanding" is that they were "targeted" because they weren't Muslim. Are all non-Muslims white?
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British Asian girls were also victims.


View: https://x.com/nazirafzal/status/1643903695245983744


My understanding though is that they targeted the vulnerable.

In that respect you don't find as many teenage Asians go off the rails as white teenagers.

Sure, cultural preferences about darker and lighter skin may have been a factor also.

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There’s a complex history of skin lighteners in Africa and beyond

The long history of racist beauty standards alone cannot explain the ongoing global use of harmful skin lighteners.
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Just like in our countries there are cultural preferences about thinner and plumper women.
 
The difference between this and the Mother and Baby Homes thing is that this inquiry has found upwards of a quarter of a million English girls treated this way, whereas when the exhaustative Commission into the Homes issues reported they, according to Catherine Corless, found no evidence at all of any abuse, as you can read here: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/20...m=organic-search&utm_term="Catherine+Corless" .
 
Roc. said:
British Asian girls were also victims.


View: https://x.com/nazirafzal/status/1643903695245983744


My understanding though is that they targeted the vulnerable.

In that respect you don't find as many teenage Asians go off the rails as white teenagers.

Sure, cultural preferences about darker and lighter skin may have been a factor also.

theconversation.com

There’s a complex history of skin lighteners in Africa and beyond

The long history of racist beauty standards alone cannot explain the ongoing global use of harmful skin lighteners.
theconversation.com theconversation.com

Just like in our countries there are cultural preferences about thinner and plumper women.
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As you well know, there were many different people of different backgrounds killed in the concentration camps of the 1940s.. So why make it about the Jews? 🤔
 
Conall said:
It's not the same as what occurred in Ireland, because it dwarfs what happened here by the sheers scale, numbers and especially the depravity of the abuse.
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The level of depravity easily measures up, and more. Then, we're a much smaller country. Still we had 93 convicted in the country. 1,300+ were reported in this country but for one reason or another justice was not served.

More than that though these were just the clerics. These men were the epitome for a plague of dirty old men we had in this country in that era of catholic sexual moralising. White hair, dandruff, hands up girls dresses on buses, exposing themselves, masturbating, if you were around them you will remember it.

scolairebocht said:
... this inquiry has found upwards of a quarter of a million English girls treated this way...
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No they didn't.

As far as I understand it this 250,000 figure came out of the gormless head of some idiot who took the estimated 1,400 victims identified in the 2014 Rotherham case and multiplied it proportionally across the rest of the UK.

It goes without saying this doesn't exonerate these cunts or the sexual moralising culture that formed them.
 
Roc. said:
The level of depravity easily measures up, and more. Then, we're a much smaller country. Still we had 93 convicted in the country. 1,300+ were reported in this country but for one reason or another justice was not served.

More than that though these were just the clerics. These men were the epitome for a plague of dirty old men we had in this country in that era of catholic sexual moralising. White hair, dandruff, hands up girls dresses on buses, exposing themselves, masturbating, if you were around them you will remember it.


No they didn't.

As far as I understand it this 250,000 figure came out of the gormless head of some idiot who took the estimated 1,400 victims identified in the 2014 Rotherham case and multiplied it proportionally across the rest of the UK.

PS It goes without saying this doesn't exonerate these cunts or the sexual moralising culture that formed them.
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Why do you think it was overwhelmingly sexual deviancy by men who were homosexual?

Do you think that there’s any connection?
 
Chicken and egg.

Also, as I explained about it before:

Roc. said:
Listening to the Catholic cranks in here you get a better picture of the spectrum involved, taking in ‘terrified of women’, ‘unable to talk to women’, desperate, kind of straight maybe, probably a bit gay, will take any port in a storm, predatory, sly, did I say desperate, repressed, suffering emotional difficulties, unable to form adult relationships etc. Which is a bit difficult to find one single simple metric for. So they just ticked the box beside ‘gay’. Which doesn’t do justice to the reality whatsoever.
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The Equalizer said:
Why is it that they don't even try to hide their depravity and hatred for the rest of us
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You don't really know what her intentions are, you are just repeating someone else who also like you sees these things as political football, and ways you can make political capital, and recruit.

Here's another perspective. I.e. She is scorning the report demanding a bare minimum of an evidentiary standard for the report, because she wants to see the back of grooming gangs.


View: https://x.com/BramhamAlex/status/2067229050578391091?s=20


Now I don't have the time to dig into all these memes you pick up where the primary filtrer is the Jewish connection.

Why don't you turn you filter onto people on here who disgracefully are apologists for essentially the same thing happening on our own shores, for instance?

Answer, because you have an agenda, everything is "race" and "Jews".
 
The Equalizer said:
As you well know, there were many different people of different backgrounds killed in the concentration camps of the 1940s.. So why make it about the Jews? 🤔
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Re Asian girls. They went after Sikh girls first, but their fathers and brothers are unencumbered by our indoctrinated cultural hangups. Plus as we now know - they do get stabby with their kirpans. So the easiest meat - white whores ( their words, not mine) became the target.
Oh and their wimmin backed up their lovely rapey hubbies.
A cesspool, its depths not yet fully plumbed.
 
Roc. said:
You don't really know what her intentions are, you are just repeating someone else who also like you sees these things as political football, and ways you can make political capital, and recruit.

Here's another perspective. I.e. She is scorning the report demanding a bare minimum of an evidentiary standard for the report, because she wants to see the back of grooming gangs.


View: https://x.com/BramhamAlex/status/2067229050578391091?s=20


Now I don't have the time to dig into all these memes you pick up where the primary filtrer is the Jewish connection.

Why don't you turn you filter onto people on here who disgracefully are apologists for essentially the same thing happening on our own shores, for instance?

Answer, because you have an agenda, everything is "race" and "Jews".
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She said that the report is junk, and so have you incidentally, cohencidence?

I hope that she pays a heavy price for laughing at the hundreds of thousands of White victims of invader rape gangs.

Why didn't you post her own backpedal on X, btw? Is it because of the Readers added context?


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Just Think said:
That's one way of justifying the uncontrollable animalistic basic instincts of the brown dirt that has landed on our shores, I suppose. Are you sure it wasn't just that these young teenage girls were begging for it or something? Anything to deflect from the filthy little perpetrators by the looks of it. You're a sick person, roc/haven
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Considering Muslims get married quite young ROC seems to be of the opinion that all the perpetrators were likely in their late teens.

Most of them, in fact, were middle aged or older. With a rake of kids as old or older than their victims.

Those poor 50 year old men didn't know right from wrong because an Imam made them wait until they were 20 to get their leg over. WTF?
 
Roc. said:
I gave my understanding of causes such as my understanding is.
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Your understanding is seriously fukked up.

Roc. said:
No they didn't. As far as I understand it this 250,000 figure came out of the gormless head of some idiot who took the estimated 1,400 victims identified in the 2014 Rotherham case and multiplied it proportionally across the rest of the UK.
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Again your "understanding" doesn't stand up to anything pal.
 
willows68 said:
Re Asian girls. They went after Sikh girls first, but their fathers and brothers are unencumbered by our indoctrinated cultural hangups. Plus as we now know - they do get stabby with their kirpans. So the easiest meat - white whores ( their words, not mine) became the target.
Oh and their wimmin backed up their lovely rapey hubbies.
A cesspool, its depths not yet fully plumbed.
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View: https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/2067211120335524181

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Myles, you want to stop something, do something effective about something, you have to identify the causes correctly.

What I have said about the causes is much much closer to the mark. Even you have to admit that.

You think Jambo and his boyfriend Keith Woods parachuting their "race" issue and talking points into it is helpful towards that?

It's not a race issue. At least that is way down in the series of causal factors.
 
Roc. said:
Myles, you want to stop something, do something effective about something, you have to identify the causes correctly.
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What was the cause of the Holocaust?

Roc. said:
What I have said about the causes is much much closer to the mark. Even you have to admit that.

You think Jambo and his boyfriend Keith Woods parachuting their "race" issue and talking points into it is helpful towards that?

It's not a race issue. At least that is way down in the series of causal factors.
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So despite the gangs being 90% Muslim James and the seriously malnourished east Clare basement dweller are focusing on the 10% to attack Tommy Robinson.

Just as sick as ROC.
 
Roc. said:
You think Jambo and his boyfriend Keith Woods parachuting their "race" issue and talking points into it is helpful towards that? It's not a race issue. At least that is way down in the series of causal factors.
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Agreed.
 
Tiger said:
You view the world through a fucked up lens.
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What is fucked up? The claim that your clerics and holy Joes viewed women and children as lesser souls?

Take women alone. Let's take even their own women. Can you explain to the forum why your precious catholic patriarchy viewed women as "not capable" of the full office of priests? Why did they view womanhood as something to be ashamed of within religious life? Why did they force their nuns to live a life consisting of surveillance, rules, penance and constant very hard work? Why were they continually under suspicion for the choice they had made (shunning motherhood and marriage)? Why did your church patriarchy carefully cut every tie with every part of their previous life? And imposed nothing but rules? Rules that prescribed their self-identity and subject position?

So of course they viewed women and children as less than men. And yes the fact that this patriarchy instilled in children that they were expected to be obedient, the fact that it was authority and obedience that underpinned the pre-Vatican Two system, that you were expected to obey your superior without resistance, even if that be difficult and repugnant to nature, underlay the rampant sexual abuse. And underlay its it perpetuation, i.e. many of the nuns and sexually abused hit out at others, oppressed and mentally tortured them in turn, it turned into a vicious circle.

And yes, similar forces and attitudes are to the fore in aspects of Islam and what we see here in the UK.
 
Roc. said:
What is fucked up? The claim that your clerics and holy Joes viewed women and children as lesser souls?

Take women alone. Let's take even their own women. Can you explain to the forum why your precious catholic patriarchy viewed women as "not capable" of the full office of priests? Why did they view womanhood as something to be ashamed of within religious life?
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You're level of ignorance is astounding. Your knowledge of the Catholic Faith is like pretty much everyone else born after the 1960's....completely non-existent. You're not qualified to even ask basic questions. You prefer to just 'make shit up'. You have an 'Evening Herald/Sun Newspaper' reader level of understanding of Catholicism. Equal to a taxi driver who failed his Junior Cert.

Your question exemplifies the terminal ignorance of the conciliarised mind. The Catholic Church has never declared women "not capable" of priestly orders out of some crude patriarchal contempt for their intellect or virtue. Quite the contrary: Holy Mother Church has exalted women to heights unknown in the pagan or Talmudic worlds; the Blessed Virgin as Theotokos and Queen of Heaven, female Doctors of the Church like Catherine of Siena and Teresa of Avila, and a legion of saints, abbesses, and mystics who directed kings and popes. The restriction flows not from deficiency but from the immutable divine constitution of the priesthood, which your sort reduces to a mere power grab because the supernatural has been excised from your worldview.

Christ chose twelve men as Apostles in deliberate continuity with the patriarchal order of creation and the Old Covenant. He did so while surrounded by holy women and elevating them in ways that scandalised the rabbis. The priest does not act as a generic functionary but in persona Christi Capitis, signifying the spousal mystery: Christ the Head wedded to the Church His Bride. Christ was a man, so priests operating in persona Christi are also men. This is not a cultural relic but sacramental realism rooted in the nuptial economy of salvation, as the Fathers, Aquinas, and the unbroken Magisterium attest. Inter Insigniores reiterate what the Apostles handed down: the Church has no authority to confer this on women, for it would falsify the icon of Redemption itself. To pretend otherwise is to embrace the Gnostic leveling of sexual difference that the Revolution demands. This is where ignoramuses' like you stand.

This is the constant Tradition of two millennia, not the "precious patriarchy" of your fevered imagining. Your question is the product of post-Vatican II catechetical collapse and feminist propaganda, blind to the complementarity that honors womanhood in its Marian genius rather than aping masculine orders. Study the sources, Scripture, the Fathers, the Scholastics; before parading such superficiality in the forum. The true Doctors would diagnose this as the superbia of the Modernist, mistaking ignorance for insight. Repent of the spirit of the age and submit to the Faith once delivered to the saints!

When it comes to discussing REAL Catholicism and it's history, you are clearly out of your comfort zone.
 
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Ffs they even bound their nuns up in burka like habits.

It is these type of attitudes towards women and views about “sexual morality” that lie at the root of it.

There’s a strong whiff of the same thing off a number of contributors to this forum too. So of course they try to furiously deny it.
 
Tiger said:
... Repent of the spirit of the age and submit to the Faith once delivered to the saints!
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This is like something one of your priests would say with his dick out, to the young lad he was accosting. See how it rolls off your tongue.
 
Roc. said:
Ffs they even bound their nuns up in burka like habits.

It is these type of attitudes towards women and views about “sexual morality” that lie at the root of it.

There’s a strong whiff of the same thing off a number of contributors to this forum too. So of course they try to furiously deny it.
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Your grotesque attempt to blame the Catholic Church's attitudes toward women and sexual morality for the industrial-scale rape of 250,000 English girls by Muslim grooming gangs is Talmudic inversion and Revolutionary deflection.

Firstly, England is a historically Protestant country, not Catholic.....and these horrors were perpetrated by Pakistani Muslim men with doctrinal license from Islamic supremacism; treating kuffar girls as permissible prey and spoils of conquest. The Jay Report documented this ethnic-religious pattern, while authorities enabled it through multiculturalism, fear of "Islamophobia," and godless liberal betrayal. Liberals like you are part of the problem. You are ENABLERS.

Inversely Catholic morality, chastity, indissoluble marriage, and woman's dignity as imago Dei, stands in total antithesis, having protected women through Christendom far better than post-1960s Britain's contraceptive chaos. Blaming the Faith once delivered to the saints inverts perpetrator and victim, sacralising invaders while demonising the Church. This "strong whiff" reeks of conciliarised apostasy and the spirit of the age which you have imbibed.
 
There are massive similarities, as I have pointed out.

This is not deflecting from the UK crimes.

But a better dynamic than the gang up online racist mob with grievances dynamic, a more appropriate and humane response would be to reflect, and draw on our own experiences.
 
Tiger said:
Your grotesque attempt to blame the Catholic Church's attitudes toward women and sexual morality for the industrial-scale rape of 250,000 English girls by Muslim grooming gangs is Talmudic inversion and Revolutionary deflection.

Firstly, England is a historically Protestant country, not Catholic.....and these horrors were perpetrated by Pakistani Muslim men with doctrinal license from Islamic supremacism; treating kuffar girls as permissible prey and spoils of conquest. The Jay Report documented this ethnic-religious pattern, while authorities enabled it through multiculturalism, fear of "Islamophobia," and godless liberal betrayal. Liberals like you are part of the problem. You are ENABLERS.

Inversely Catholic morality, chastity, indissoluble marriage, and woman's dignity as imago Dei, stands in total antithesis, having protected women through Christendom far better than post-1960s Britain's contraceptive chaos. Blaming the Faith once delivered to the saints inverts perpetrator and victim, sacralising invaders while demonising the Church. This "strong whiff" reeks of conciliarised apostasy and the spirit of the age which you have imbibed.
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Please stop engaging with him and wrecking the thread for readers interested in the grooming scandal. He's trying to deflect from the subject of the thread for ideological reasons. He'd be better off addressing the problems endemic in his own community around abuse of children.

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The twisted life of teacher who killed his adopted son

Jamie Varley, 37, subjected Preston Davey to months of horrific physical, sexual and emotional abuse.
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But that's for another thread.
 
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