Pakistani Child Rape Gangs in England

Back on topic, reading some of the posts above, it strikes me that no one has mentioned what I think is a very important aspect of this. And this is a disclaimer to say that I'm not in any way placing blame on the young children who were abused.

If you look at the backgrounds of these children, they were all living extremely dysfunctional lives. They came from broken homes, care homes in a lot of cases - with no parental guidance They were using drugs, drinking, having sex, spending most of their time on the streets. In other words, engaged in a completely degenerate lifestyle.

And I think post-Christian libtardism has a lot to answer for. Isn't the kind of lifestyle I've laid out above the kind of stuff promoted by braindead Western libtardism. Sex is like tennis. There are no rules around it. It's your body your choice. You can take drugs and drink. Basically you can do whatever you want with no boundaries.

What these children clearly needed was some boundaries.

What I'm trying to say is that the conditions were ripe for these inbred Paki gangs to target these children because they had grown up in a society that afforded them no self-worth.

I think this scandal, and the details emerging around the laughable response from authorities (not wanting to be seen as wacist etc) is really a symptom of national decline, and something irreversible.
 
Roc. said:
There are massive similarities, as I have pointed out.

This is not deflecting from the UK crimes.

But a better dynamic than the gang up online racist mob with grievances dynamic, a more appropriate and humane response would be to reflect, and draw on our own experiences.
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You're not a well person, are you, haven?
 
Well it is bad enough that there are people on here who only want to parse these horrors and crimes through their own personal racist crusades - only find in these events say, a reason to immediately deport all immigrants now living in this country, for instance.

But even worse still, by far, is that many of these same morons also still hold up and act as apologists for a horrific social milieu we had in this country - so that the admonishment of Jesus comes strongly to mind:

"… And why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye when you have a log in your own? How can you think of saying to your friend, ‘Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,’ when you can’t see past the log in your own eye? Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend’s eye…"

Like Jesus, I am merely beseeching you to get rid of the log in your own eye first, so that you can see more clearly.
 
Roc. said:
Well it is bad enough that there are people on here who only want to parse these horrors and crimes through their own personal racist crusades - only find in these events say, a reason to immediately deport all immigrants now living in this country, for instance.

But even worse still, by far, is that many of these same morons also still hold up and act as apologists for a horrific social milieu we had in this country - so that the admonishment of Jesus comes strongly to mind:

"… And why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye when you have a log in your own? How can you think of saying to your friend, ‘Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,’ when you can’t see past the log in your own eye? Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend’s eye…"

Like Jesus, I am merely beseeching you to get rid of the log in your own eye first, so that you can see more clearly.
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What drugs are you on today, roc/haven?
 
Just Think said:
What drugs are you on today, roc/haven?
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Brain cells and neurons.

Ever heard of that heady brew, “Just think”?

Well I know you don’t indulge yourself, a single unconnected brain cell being enough for you, apparently.

PS Anyone want to put him straight on his roc/haven thing, stop him making even more of a fool of himself?)
 
Just Think said:
roc/haven's 'culture'.
www.breakingnews.ie

Morocco and PSG player Hakimi to stand trial on rape charge | BreakingNews

Hakimi, who played for Morocco during its World Cup opener against Brazil on Sunday, had appealed his referral to criminal court.
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Would you ever stay in your play pen. Are you unable to read what I wrote? I was saying it is culture to blame. Have you looked at Moroccan, Arab, or Islamic culture? I have been pointing out the parallels with the culture we had in this country before the reforms, and making the case that it is this culture to blame.
 
Roc. said:
Would you ever stay in your play pen. Are you unable to read what I wrote? I was saying it is culture to blame. Have you looked at Moroccan, Arab, or Islamic culture? I have been pointing out the parallels with the culture we had in this country before the reforms, and making the case that it is this culture to blame.
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No, you were using what happened under the RCC here to justify what your brown pals are doing to this day, in Ireland.
Quit squirming.
 
The Equalizer said:
What was the cause of the antisemitism that caused the Holocaust? Why won't you answer?
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Because it's complex and I don't think you're actually genuinely curious about it. But let's take Germany in isolation. Here's an analysis by Einstein for example honestly trying to get to the root of the question, all the way back in 1919, before the mass propaganda of the far right took those few strands and built them up into the kinds of things - the narratives, the inventions, the accusations, such as I linked in my previous post, that ultimately lead to rationalising what was done to them.


View: https://www.scribd.com/document/189552609/Einstein-How-I-became-a-Zionist-pdf
 
Roc. said:
Because it's complex and I don't think you're actually genuinely curious about it. But let's take Germany in isolation. Here's an analysis by Einstein for example honestly trying to get to the root of the question, all the way back in 1919, before the mass propaganda of the far right took those few strands and built them up into the kinds of things - the narratives, the inventions, the accusations, such as I linked in my previous post, that ultimately lead to rationalising what was done to them.


View: https://www.scribd.com/document/189552609/Einstein-How-I-became-a-Zionist-pdf
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Quit spamming

Tell me, in your own words, what was the cause of the antisemitism that caused the Holocaust?

I will ask you this same question when you bring up your "cause and effect" trope until you answer. Every. Single. Time.
 
The Equalizer said:
Quit spamming

Tell me, in your own words, what was the cause of the antisemitism that caused the Holocaust?

I will ask you this same question when you bring up your "cause and effect" trope until you answer. Every. Single. Time.
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Yet again the point seems to have sailed clean over your binary pin head.

Why do I always emphasise there is a fine line between antisemitism and stupidity?

Answer because invariably the mass of antisemites struggle to understand how the world really works, or adequately grapple with the complex social political and economic factors.

So that when they can’t work out why something they don’t like has happened to them they answer “ it is the Jews.”

Even whole countries do it when they refuse to face up to their own history and they have people in power who don’t want them to understand that history, and there is a totalitarian current in their governance.

Bad things, like why did Jesus have to die. Why are there rich people and poor people. Why are there wars…

And the Muslims have their own varieties, and the left, and the right, etc.

If we study history and other groups who simplified the world this way we notice that this type of reasoning was an early warning sign of a society in cognitive or cultural collapse.

So when I raise the issue of cause and effect I’m saying it’s complicated, not that it can be simplified.

It is the simplification of cause and effect that is at the heart of the issue and that leads to the phenomenon of people acting in a context of some type of mob, with their individual god given intelligence basically removed.

The world is complicated Jambo, and trying to make it simple and black and white is what’s leading you down a bad road that your poor mother would be appalled by, in truth.
 
Roc. said:
Yet again the point seems to have sailed clean over your binary pin head.

Why do I always emphasise there is a fine line between antisemitism and stupidity?

Answer because invariably the mass of antisemites struggle to understand how the world really works, or adequately grapple with the complex social political and economic factors.

So that when they can’t work out why something they don’t like has happened to them they answer “ it is the Jews.”

Even whole countries do it when they refuse to face up to their own history and they have people in power who don’t want them to understand that history, and there is a totalitarian current in their governance.

Bad things, like why did Jesus have to die. Why are there rich people and poor people. Why are there wars…

And the Muslims have their own varieties, and the left, and the right, etc.

If we study history and other groups who simplified the world this way we notice that this type of reasoning was an early warning sign of a society in cognitive or cultural collapse.

So when I raise the issue of cause and effect I’m saying it’s complicated, not that it can be simplified.

It is the simplification of cause and effect that is at the heart of the issue and that leads to the phenomenon of people acting in a context of some type of mob, with their individual god given intelligence basically removed.

The world is complicated Jambo, and trying to make it simple and black and white is what’s leading you down a bad road that your poor mother would be appalled by, in truth.
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Nope, sorry, you still haven't told me what the cause of the antisemitism was that caused the Holocaust.

Let's move on to my other question..

As you well know, many people from many backgrounds died in the concentration camps, why make it all about the Jews?
 
The Equalizer said:
Let's move on to my other question..

As you well know, many people from many backgrounds died in the concentration camps, why make it all about the Jews?
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I showed you some of the stuff earlier that lead to 30s-40s national socialist totalitarian Germany rationalising all of this.

Here's the link again, for reference.

germanpropaganda.org

+++ German ++ Propaganda +++

An Archive of Antisemitic Publications from 1930-1945
germanpropaganda.org germanpropaganda.org

Now first notice the propaganda was all about the Jews.

Second notice that the progression of the worst elements of national socialism revolved to a large degree around the so called "Jewish Question" (the same thing your movement revolves around).

Third, what ultimately came out of the above was a massive industrialised system designed to wipe out every last Jew.

- A system designed by binary minds like yours to identify Jews in databases, move Jews en masse across Europe by train, to killing factories to kill them more efficiently, and even industrial designs to systematically collect their valuables, gold teeth, etc.

The rationalisations for all this revolved around the so called "Jewish Question".

And their scientists, jurists, and intellectuals weighed in on "why" the Jews deservedthis, and how it could be done, and ultimately in which way the "Jewish Question" could be solved.

Sure, as has been often pointed out, what begins with Jews, never ends with Jews.

But what happened in Germany was driven by an obsession with the Jews.

That's why the documentation of it all follows this line.
 
Roc. said:
I showed you some of the stuff earlier that lead to 30s-40s national socialist totalitarian Germany rationalising all of this.

Here's the link again, for reference.

germanpropaganda.org

+++ German ++ Propaganda +++

An Archive of Antisemitic Publications from 1930-1945
germanpropaganda.org germanpropaganda.org

Now first notice the propaganda was all about the Jews.

Second notice that the progression of the worst elements of national socialism revolved to a large degree around the so called "Jewish Question" (the same thing your movement revolves around).

Third, what ultimately came out of the above was a massive industrialised system designed to wipe out every last Jew.

- A system designed by binary minds like yours to identify Jews in databases, move Jews en masse across Europe by train, to killing factories to kill them more efficiently, and even industrial designs to systematically collect their valuables, gold teeth, etc.

The rationalisations for all this revolved around the so called "Jewish Question".

And their scientists, jurists, and intellectuals weighed in on "why" the Jews deservedthis, and how it could be done, and ultimately in which way the "Jewish Question" could be solved.

Sure, as has been often pointed out, what begins with Jews, never ends with Jews.

But what happened in Germany was driven by an obsession with the Jews.

That's why the documentation of it all follows this line.
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The hundreds of thousands of rape gang victims are White. Why do you want to focus on the odd non-White or two?

By your own logic, we shouldn't focus on the Jewish victims of the concentration camps.
 
The Equalizer said:
The hundreds of thousands of rape gang victims are White. Why do you want to focus on the odd non-White or two?

By your own logic, we shouldn't focus on the Jewish victims of the concentration camps.
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You have never been able to follow my logic, not once.

Certainly I don't want to "focus" on anything, I was just answering you and telling you how it happened.

But really you're introducing a new topic here, around how we are seeing see this move away from honour cultures, where victims have a low moral status, to this new paradigm, where movements like yours clamour for victim status.

Basically that think that the way to have your grievances prioritised is to represent yourself as the greatest "victim", and achieve the highest moral status.

Of course a rational decent person thinks - well I can have sympathy for victims of the Holocaust, and white victims of Muslim rapists, and black victims of white racism, and peasant victims of the Irish famine, and boys who were victims of sexually frustrated and deluded priests - I can have sympathy for them all, I don't need to choose.

But the core of this new, modern stupidity, another of the stupid ideas you channel, is this idea that you have to choose - that there is not enough room for all of the world’s victims, that a single head may not be spacious enough to accommodate two separate afflictions.

Actually this is perhaps the primary source of modern antisemitism, and reveals perhaps why you yourself are so possessed by this antisemitism, and so are many on this forum.

It is of course yet another sheer, nearly unbelievable sub-imbecility:

"... the thorough indecency of the quest for victim status, an indecency that is the unacknowledged correlate of the competition — its perversity, born in the mud of Auschwitz and repackaged, banalized, metered out in small doses to allow everyone a little slice of the cake of victimhood, just enough to affirm their identity and to clear away, if possible, any singularity that might mar the purity of their martyr status. How pathetic and grotesque this reduction of human essence to a bare suffering that becomes humanity’s sole definition, its sole glory, while simultaneously purging it of anything resembling intellectualism, culture, literature, philosophy, concepts, reason, truth, remembrance, and, especially, religion and prophecy: all of these useless adornments, these now-secondary qualities that appear to have been there only to obscure deprivation and to prevent people from relishing their status as victims.

Remember, too, that underpinning the competition, at its origin and at its apex, is hatred — yes, hatred once again, a pure and unadulterated hatred: Once you give in to it, you never get out. Hatred for the victim whom one intends to unseat, of course, but also for the victim whom one is endeavoring to hoist onto the pedestal to be covered in the bird droppings of the competitor’s sad passion. Oh, how the iron indifference of the “pro-Palestinians” to the Palestinians of flesh and blood recalls Genet’s contempt for the fedayeen whose eulogist he strove to be and for the other dispossessed, Arab and black alike, who were no more than cards in his deck!..."
 
Roc. said:
You have never been able to follow my logic, not once.

Certainly I don't want to "focus" on anything, I was just answering you and telling you how it happened.
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Do you admit that the vast majority of rape gang (basically all of them) victims are white?

So far, all you've talked about is non-white victims in between telling us that white people don't exist and that the report is "junk", like Anne Frank's diary and Rosa Park's bus ride (both Jewish inventions)

Roc. said:
But really you're introducing a new topic here, around how we are seeing see this move away from honour cultures, where victims have a low moral status, to this new paradigm, where movements like yours clamour for victim status.

Basically that think that the way to have your grievances prioritised is to represent yourself as the greatest "victim", and achieve the highest moral status.

Of course a rational decent person thinks - well I can have sympathy for victims of the Holocaust, and white victims of Muslim rapists, and black victims of white racism, and peasant victims of the Irish famine, and boys who were victims of sexually frustrated and deluded priests - I can have sympathy for them all, I don't need to choose.

But the core of this new, modern stupidity, another of the stupid ideas you channel, is this idea that you have to choose - that there is not enough room for all of the world’s victims, that a single head may not be spacious enough to accommodate two separate afflictions.

Actually this is perhaps the primary source of modern antisemitism, and reveals perhaps why you yourself are so possessed by this antisemitism, and so are many on this forum.

It is of course yet another sheer, nearly unbelievable sub-imbecility:

"... the thorough indecency of the quest for victim status, an indecency that is the unacknowledged correlate of the competition — its perversity, born in the mud of Auschwitz and repackaged, banalized, metered out in small doses to allow everyone a little slice of the cake of victimhood, just enough to affirm their identity and to clear away, if possible, any singularity that might mar the purity of their martyr status. How pathetic and grotesque this reduction of human essence to a bare suffering that becomes humanity’s sole definition, its sole glory, while simultaneously purging it of anything resembling intellectualism, culture, literature, philosophy, concepts, reason, truth, remembrance, and, especially, religion and prophecy: all of these useless adornments, these now-secondary qualities that appear to have been there only to obscure deprivation and to prevent people from relishing their status as victims.

Remember, too, that underpinning the competition, at its origin and at its apex, is hatred — yes, hatred once again, a pure and unadulterated hatred: Once you give in to it, you never get out. Hatred for the victim whom one intends to unseat, of course, but also for the victim whom one is endeavoring to hoist onto the pedestal to be covered in the bird droppings of the competitor’s sad passion. Oh, how the iron indifference of the “pro-Palestinians” to the Palestinians of flesh and blood recalls Genet’s contempt for the fedayeen whose eulogist he strove to be and for the other dispossessed, Arab and black alike, who were no more than cards in his deck!..."
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