President Trump talking about conquering Greenland

[scolairebocht]

Right from the start of Trump's Presidency he has openly talked of taking the huge North Atlantic island of Greenland, at first of buying it from Denmark but now, especially post events in Venezuela, there is a widespread fear that he would just enter it and take it militarily

A few dates in the history of this, largely, frozen island:

– 985 Erik the Red, one of the almost legendary figures of the Danish/Viking conquests of those years, founds a colony from Denmark/Iceland (i.e. part of the general Viking world) in Greenland and from this date a proportion of the population of the island are thought to be of this, ultimately, Danish or at least Scandinavian origin. The rest are Inuit, i.e. the same as the Eskimos of Canada and Alaska.

– c.1300. The Europeans lost touch with the above very early Scadanavian settlements about this time, and Greenland was mostly independent, but recognised as under the sovereignty of Denmark, until the early 18th century.

– 1721. Contact re-established and part of the joint Norse Danish monarchy.

– 1916. Lansing Declaration as part of the Greenland treaty of 1916. In this year the Danish sovereign sold to the United Stated their part of the West Indies (including St Croix, which they had bought from France in 1733 and in which the Irish Tuites became prominent) which then became the US Virgin islands, and in this declaration the US Secretary of State recognised the sovereignty of Denmark over Greenland.

– 1941. With the Danish kingdom occupied by the Germans, the Danish ambassador to the US signed off on allowing that government to establish military bases on the island, which are there since.

– 1949. Denmark joins NATO, which it is still a member of. Therefore if the US take Greenland by force, it could involve a war between two NATO countries, a thing unheard of outside the Greek/Turkish disputes.

– 1978. In this year, but effective the next, Denmark granted Home Rule to Greenland, hence since that date its governance is similar to the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man with respect to the UK government, Denmark retains sovereignty and control of military and external relations but concedes local governance. As part of this Greenland left the European Union, the first country or territory to do so.

– 1973-2022. You can see that everybody internationally has always respected the right of Denmark to set the international relations of Greenland, from the events of the gentlemanly 'whiskey war' between these dates. This was a long running dispute between Denmark and Canada as to the ownership of Hans Island, on the West coast of Greenland bordering Canada. Hostilities consisted of successive Canadian and Danish expeditions landing on the island, planting their flag and leaving a bottle of whiskey, until it was divided between the two countries.

It would be quite a stunning act if the US was to take Greenland by force, although with bases already on the island not a militarily difficult one, presumably the effect would be:

– Shattering the solidarity between European NATO members and the US, if the Europeans sided with Denmark which seems likely, which in turn might open the door somewhat for Russia, which is otherwise deterred from entering Europe by the large US forces.

– Establishing a kind of 'might is right' doctrine of world relations, which some say it is already doing with Venezuela. That in turn could cause the smaller countries to come more under the aegis of the larger, UN Security Council member, countries, which might speed up the push to a world government. This effect would be especially pronounced if nuclear weapons start being used internationally, then there might be a scramble for smaller neutral countries to enter into the nuclear 'umbrella' of larger ones.

– Probably further erode Trump's standing among his MAGA base in the US, and certainly increase his unpopularity worldwide, even giving a fillup, possibly, to left wing movements internationally.

Anyway just a few thoughts.

by Brian Nugent, http://www.orwellianireland.com

 

[clarke-connolly]

Hopefully, Trump mistakes Greenland for Ireland and takes over Ireland ! !

 

[Wolf]

Hopefully, Trump mistakes Greenland for Ireland and takes over Ireland ! !

The Trump administration sees Ireland as a woke tax haven and has it firmly in it's sights.
There's going to be a serious wake up call coming pretty soon.

 

[Mad as Fish]

View attachment 8571
Right from the start of Trump's Presidency he has openly talked of taking the huge North Atlantic island of Greenland, at first of buying it from Denmark but now, especially post events in Venezuela, there is a widespread fear that he would just enter it and take it militarily

A few dates in the history of this, largely, frozen island:

– 985 Erik the Red, one of the almost legendary figures of the Danish/Viking conquests of those years, founds a colony from Denmark/Iceland (i.e. part of the general Viking world) in Greenland and from this date a proportion of the population of the island are thought to be of this, ultimately, Danish or at least Scandinavian origin. The rest are Inuit, i.e. the same as the Eskimos of Canada and Alaska.

– c.1300. The Europeans lost touch with the above very early Scadanavian settlements about this time, and Greenland was mostly independent, but recognised as under the sovereignty of Denmark, until the early 18th century.

– 1721. Contact re-established and part of the joint Norse Danish monarchy.

– 1916. Lansing Declaration as part of the Greenland treaty of 1916. In this year the Danish sovereign sold to the United Stated their part of the West Indies (including St Croix, which they had bought from France in 1733 and in which the Irish Tuites became prominent) which then became the US Virgin islands, and in this declaration the US Secretary of State recognised the sovereignty of Denmark over Greenland.

– 1941. With the Danish kingdom occupied by the Germans, the Danish ambassador to the US signed off on allowing that government to establish military bases on the island, which are there since.

– 1949. Denmark joins NATO, which it is still a member of. Therefore if the US take Greenland by force, it could involve a war between two NATO countries, a thing unheard of outside the Greek/Turkish disputes.

– 1978. In this year, but effective the next, Denmark granted Home Rule to Greenland, hence since that date its governance is similar to the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man with respect to the UK government, Denmark retains sovereignty and control of military and external relations but concedes local governance. As part of this Greenland left the European Union, the first country or territory to do so.

– 1973-2022. You can see that everybody internationally has always respected the right of Denmark to set the international relations of Greenland, from the events of the gentlemanly 'whiskey war' between these dates. This was a long running dispute between Denmark and Canada as to the ownership of Hans Island, on the West coast of Greenland bordering Canada. Hostilities consisted of successive Canadian and Danish expeditions landing on the island, planting their flag and leaving a bottle of whiskey, until it was divided between the two countries.

It would be quite a stunning act if the US was to take Greenland by force, although with bases already on the island not a militarily difficult one, presumably the effect would be:

– Shattering the solidarity between European NATO members and the US, if the Europeans sided with Denmark which seems likely, which in turn might open the door somewhat for Russia, which is otherwise deterred from entering Europe by the large US forces.

– Establishing a kind of 'might is right' doctrine of world relations, which some say it is already doing with Venezuela. That in turn could cause the smaller countries to come more under the aegis of the larger, UN Security Council member, countries, which might speed up the push to a world government. This effect would be especially pronounced if nuclear weapons start being used internationally, then there might be a scramble for smaller neutral countries to enter into the nuclear 'umbrella' of larger ones.

– Probably further erode Trump's standing among his MAGA base in the US, and certainly increase his unpopularity worldwide, even giving a fillup, possibly, to left wing movements internationally.

Anyway just a few thoughts.

by Brian Nugent, http://www.orwellianireland.com

Will Brussels try and claim that since Greenland is no longer part of the EU then it's nothing to do with them? Which of course begs the question as to why the EU is so hot and bothered about Ukraine.

 

[clarke-connolly]

Will Brussels try and claim that since Greenland is no longer part of the EU then it's nothing to do with them? Which of course begs the question as to why the EU is so hot and bothered about Ukraine.

They will do as America tells them to do.

 

[Mad as Fish]

They will do as America tells them to do.

There was some clear water appearing between the EU and USA over Ukraine so I am not so sure.

One thing is for certain and that is Zelensky can go whistle to himself if he thinks he's getting any more from Trump.

 

[Mad as Fish]

A link in Myles's post in the US Politics thread led to this -

Tears and trauma: Greenlandic women recall forced contraception as a nation seeks forgiveness

The leaders of Denmark and Greenland are offering their apologies for their governments' roles in the mistreatment of Greenlandic Indigenous girls and women

www.independent.co.uk

Denmark is hardly the haven of peace and goodwill to all men, and woman, and whales that we might like to think -

Whaling in the Faroe Islands - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

However, I am not sure that either deserves the continuing stony silence from the EU over the Greenland issue.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Good OP as ever Mr Bocht

 

[PlunkettsGhost]

It's kinda refreshing that we are back to the age of raw conquest, might being right, and that we get to put the corpse and lie of 'democracy' to bed. It gives me hope that some strong man will rise up in Ireland's future and lead a bloody coup against the 'democrats', and turn Ireland into a benign autocracy again.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Plunkett do you think there would be anyone in the Officer Corps of the Defence Forces who might set about organising a Coup D'état?

 

[PlunkettsGhost]

Plunkett do you think there would be anyone in the Officer Corps of the Defence Forces who might set about organising a Coup D'état?

I suspect they are all masons or pedos. Ireland will need a Watt Tyler like figure, a man of the people.

 

[jpc]

Rockall lad's.
I'm telling ye now.
Next.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Rockall lad's.
I'm telling ye now.
Next.

That's Brit territory that is! They'll stick half the army (a handful of squaddies and a tampon dispenser) atop of it just to learn that Donny boy a lesson!

 

[Diarmuid]

Gardai would be more likely to do a coup d'etat. They could do it very discretetly - arrest a half dozen judges and the same number of politicians, plus a few journos. The rest would get the message.

 

[BIG FAT HOOR]

View attachment 8571
Right from the start of Trump's Presidency he has openly talked of taking the huge North Atlantic island of Greenland, at first of buying it from Denmark but now, especially post events in Venezuela, there is a widespread fear that he would just enter it and take it militarily

A few dates in the history of this, largely, frozen island:

– 985 Erik the Red, one of the almost legendary figures of the Danish/Viking conquests of those years, founds a colony from Denmark/Iceland (i.e. part of the general Viking world) in Greenland and from this date a proportion of the population of the island are thought to be of this, ultimately, Danish or at least Scandinavian origin. The rest are Inuit, i.e. the same as the Eskimos of Canada and Alaska.

– c.1300. The Europeans lost touch with the above very early Scadanavian settlements about this time, and Greenland was mostly independent, but recognised as under the sovereignty of Denmark, until the early 18th century.

– 1721. Contact re-established and part of the joint Norse Danish monarchy.

– 1916. Lansing Declaration as part of the Greenland treaty of 1916. In this year the Danish sovereign sold to the United Stated their part of the West Indies (including St Croix, which they had bought from France in 1733 and in which the Irish Tuites became prominent) which then became the US Virgin islands, and in this declaration the US Secretary of State recognised the sovereignty of Denmark over Greenland.

– 1941. With the Danish kingdom occupied by the Germans, the Danish ambassador to the US signed off on allowing that government to establish military bases on the island, which are there since.

– 1949. Denmark joins NATO, which it is still a member of. Therefore if the US take Greenland by force, it could involve a war between two NATO countries, a thing unheard of outside the Greek/Turkish disputes.

– 1978. In this year, but effective the next, Denmark granted Home Rule to Greenland, hence since that date its governance is similar to the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man with respect to the UK government, Denmark retains sovereignty and control of military and external relations but concedes local governance. As part of this Greenland left the European Union, the first country or territory to do so.

– 1973-2022. You can see that everybody internationally has always respected the right of Denmark to set the international relations of Greenland, from the events of the gentlemanly 'whiskey war' between these dates. This was a long running dispute between Denmark and Canada as to the ownership of Hans Island, on the West coast of Greenland bordering Canada. Hostilities consisted of successive Canadian and Danish expeditions landing on the island, planting their flag and leaving a bottle of whiskey, until it was divided between the two countries.

It would be quite a stunning act if the US was to take Greenland by force, although with bases already on the island not a militarily difficult one, presumably the effect would be:

– Shattering the solidarity between European NATO members and the US, if the Europeans sided with Denmark which seems likely, which in turn might open the door somewhat for Russia, which is otherwise deterred from entering Europe by the large US forces.

– Establishing a kind of 'might is right' doctrine of world relations, which some say it is already doing with Venezuela. That in turn could cause the smaller countries to come more under the aegis of the larger, UN Security Council member, countries, which might speed up the push to a world government. This effect would be especially pronounced if nuclear weapons start being used internationally, then there might be a scramble for smaller neutral countries to enter into the nuclear 'umbrella' of larger ones.

– Probably further erode Trump's standing among his MAGA base in the US, and certainly increase his unpopularity worldwide, even giving a fillup, possibly, to left wing movements internationally.

Anyway just a few thoughts.

by Brian Nugent, http://www.orwellianireland.com

great post i learned a lot thanks .

 

[Diarmuid]

It seems like a big distraction. The Danes are telling Trump that he can put as many bases as he wants in Greenland. He can mine what he wants. So why the trash talk?

Even Pat Kenny is turning into a conspiracy theorist. He said it: It stops people talking about Epstein/Israel links.

 

[Wolf]

It seems like a big distraction. The Danes are telling Trump that he can put as many bases as he wants in Greenland. He can mine what he wants. So why the trash talk?

Even Pat Kenny is turning into a conspiracy theorist. He said it: It stops people talking about Epstein/Israel links.

Isn't it such a pity that the Biden administration didn't release all the Epstein files during its four years running America?
If there was anything on Trump and they wanted to stop him gaining a second term wouldn't you think it would have been released?
The Degenerate Party dowt protest too much, methinks.

 

[Perry]

It seems like a big distraction. The Danes are telling Trump that he can put as many bases as he wants in Greenland. He can mine what he wants. So why the trash talk?

Even Pat Kenny is turning into a conspiracy theorist. He said it: It stops people talking about Epstein/Israel links.

Makes you wonder, if the Danes allow as many US bases and mine whatever they want.... Technically then Greenland is part of the USA?

 

[Mad as Fish]

Makes you wonder, if the Danes allow as many US bases and mine whatever they want.... Technically then Greenland is part of the USA?

Depends how much they charge.

 

[clarke-connolly]

Depends how much they charge.

I suspect the Americans will decide the charge ? !

 

[Mad as Fish]

I suspect the Americans will decide the charge ? !

And therein lies the danger. Once America has its bases established and the mines humming away it could just turn around and say it's not paying at all. To all intents and purposes it will have conquered the place.

 

[clarke-connolly]

And therein lies the danger. Once America has its bases established and the mines humming away it could just turn around and say it's not paying at all. To all intents and purposes it will have conquered the place.

To be honest ~ If America decides to take it, America will take it ~ ~ It might be described as something else alright though !

 

[Perry]

To be honest ~ If America decides to take it, America will take it ~ ~ It might be described as something else alright though !

Not if the "coalition of the willing" Get involved, led by lions like cuck stammer and domestic abuse victim macaron. Once they defeat Russia in Ukraine they will sort Trump's USA out.

 

[clarke-connolly]

Not if the "coalition of the willing" Get involved, led by lions like cuck stammer and domestic abuse victim macaron. Once they defeat Russia in Ukraine they will sort Trump's USA out.

Three Ukrainian Rent-Boys had Starmer on the run in Britain ! ! !

There is footage of Starmer puncking a punch-bag = = A Wet-Wipe would have made a better fist of it !

Speaking of a Fist = = The Baller Brigitte Marcon gives Emanuel Macron all the fist he can handle !

 

[willows68]

Rockall lad's.
I'm telling ye now.
Next.

That's an important rock. I would fight tooth and nail to hang on to it - stick a Supermacs and a PP betting shop on top that would do it..

 

[clarke-connolly]

That's an important rock. I would fight tooth and nail to hang on to it - stick a Supermacs and a PP betting shop on top that would do it..

Varadakar and a Gay Sauna ! ! !

 

[Mad as Fish]

Three Ukrainian Rent-Boys had Starmer on the run in Britain ! ! !

There is footage of Starmer puncking a punch-bag = = A Wet-Wipe would have made a better fist of it !

Speaking of a Fist = = The Baller Brigitte Marcon gives Emanuel Macron all the fist he can handle !

Is there anything concrete on Starmers dusky shags? The overheating car and arson attacks were mentioned even by the BBC, but I can't find much else.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Varadakar and a Gay Sauna ! ! !

Best place for them!

 

[Diarmuid]

Is there anything concrete on Starmers dusky shags? The overheating car and arson attacks were mentioned even by the BBC, but I can't find much else.

A touchy subject! They possibly have it officially censored - security reasons, etc.

 

[clarke-connolly]

Is there anything concrete on Starmers dusky shags? The overheating car and arson attacks were mentioned even by the BBC, but I can't find much else.

It's all very bizarre. I have Starmer down as an Mi5 asset and him being a homo-sexual ( closet ) would go along with that !

British intelligence loves homo-sexuals. I doubt it would actually function with-out homo-sexuals ! ! !

 

[Neptune]

Is there anything concrete on Starmers dusky shags? The overheating car and arson attacks were mentioned even by the BBC, but I can't find much else.

3 Ukrainian male models were arrested for firebombing cars, even BBC reported that

 

[Mad as Fish]

A touchy subject! They possibly have it officially censored - security reasons, etc.

The good auld D notice, brought out at every embarrassment.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Perhaps Trump dusted down an agreement made during the Cold War Era when America was granted sweeping rights of access to Greenland -

Under a little-known Cold War agreement, the United States already enjoys sweeping military access in Greenland. Right now, the United States has one base in a very remote corner of the island. But the agreement allows it to “construct, install, maintain, and operate” military bases across Greenland, “house personnel” and “control landings, takeoffs, anchorages, moorings, movements, and operation of ships, aircraft, and waterborne craft.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/07/world/europe/trump-greenland-denmark-us-defense-pact.html

 

[Diarmuid]

Ciara Doherty on Newstalk got her ass handed to her by Trump Gal Emily Sands, former US Ambassador to Denmark.

Apparently the nasty Danes used to sterilise the Greenlanders. It was funny to hear how Ciara tried to change the topic!

Emily also enthusiastically defended the kidnapping of Maduro and promised wealth to the Venezuelan people.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Ciara Doherty on Newstalk got her ass handed to her by Trump Gal Emily Sands, former US Ambassador to Denmark.

Apparently the nasty Danes used to sterilise the Greenlanders. It was funny to hear how Ciara tried to change the topic!

Emily also enthusiastically defended the kidnapping of Maduro and promised wealth to the Venezuelan people.

Sterilise might be slightly too strong a word but I posted this further up -

Tears and trauma: Greenlandic women recall forced contraception as a nation seeks forgiveness

The leaders of Denmark and Greenland are offering their apologies for their governments' roles in the mistreatment of Greenlandic Indigenous girls and women

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Haven]

Ciara Doherty on Newstalk got her ass handed to her by Trump Gal Emily Sands, former US Ambassador to Denmark.

Apparently the nasty Danes used to sterilise the Greenlanders. It was funny to hear how Ciara tried to change the topic!

Well no ones wants to talk about the Native Americans do they? Emily made an unforced error there.

Emily also enthusiastically defended the kidnapping of Maduro and promised wealth to the Venezuelan people.

Gosh. Its like the Iraq invasion and its promises never existed.

Go Emily!

 

[Perry]

Just watched the last 15 mins or so of Prime time on rte, anyone interested should watch on rte +1 channel. Miriam O'Callaghan got her ass handed to her by an ex US immigration officer. Basically said he was leftist, liberal etc, but immigration is not a right v left issue, its about protecting housing, wages, safety etc, and that woman shot dead unfortunately deserved it. O'Callaghan asked why didn't the ice officer just shoot her in the leg, to which he replied, she was driving a car

 

[Diarmuid]

A useful comment, summarising stuff so we don't have to hear the whole thing. Good news, too: The truth is getting out there. Even the RTE liars are forced to discuss it.

Did Miriam get all bitchy with the yank, or did she take it with good grace?

 

[Wolf]

Just watched the last 15 mins or so of Prime time on rte, anyone interested should watch on rte +1 channel. Miriam O'Callaghan got her ass handed to her by an ex US immigration officer. Basically said he was leftist, liberal etc, but immigration is not a right v left issue, its about protecting housing, wages, safety etc, and that woman shot dead unfortunately deserved it. O'Callaghan asked why didn't the ice officer just shoot her in the leg, to which he replied, she was driving a car

O'Callaghan then went on to say surely America can do better than 'assassinating 37 year old women sitting in their cars'.
These leftards really are thick as fuck and are a big part of the problem.

 

[Perry]

A useful comment, summarising stuff so we don't have to hear the whole thing. Good news, too: The truth is getting out there. Even the RTE liars are forced to discuss it.

Did Miriam get all bitchy with the yank, or did she take it with good grace?

I thought the interview was cut abptubly, it felt like the reaseachers got it wrong and had to cut short....punches were landed though, which is good.....