The Climate Change scam

[Professor]

If there was some obligation for commercial jets to spray foam as they roam around the globe I think we would have heard about it by now. That nice Mr Lowery would be noting the extra expense incurred and the hassle of refilling the tanks on his Boeings, an activity I have never knowingly witnessed and I write this from Terminal One as we speak.

We have heard about it by now - all the time if you're part of the geoengineering industry or follow their developments.

Tennessee passes 'chemtrail' bill banning airborne chemicals​

The bill forbids "intentional injection, release, or dispersion" of chemicals into the air.

It doesn't explicitly mention chemtrails, which conspiracy theorists believe are poisons spread by planes.

Instead it broadly prohibits "affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight".

Tennessee passes 'chemtrail' bill banning airborne chemicals

Critics say it was inspired by unsubstantiated conspiracy theories that planes are spraying poison.

www.bbc.com

Now, that latest news has been on every news channel, and loads of MSM, it's on this thread 3 times.

 

[Professor]

Extended drought and high temperatures in the 1930's, but I can't recall Steinbeck mentioning climate change in The Grapes of Wrath.

What's the weather been like since?

It's about mans impact on the land and nature, the weather is secondary

 

[Professor]

 

[clarke-connolly]

Well, that's a grand outlook. I'm happy to acknowledge the knowledge, your knowledge - Where is it?

Our presence has transformed the countries and terrain that we populate, look at Ireland, no trees (like the old days, still haven't grown back) the oaks were turned into ships and the stone walls are hundreds of years old and not fallen.

I don't believe in CO2 but there's loads of other things going on that need to be acknowledged.

We're of a huge consequence and can destroy 90% of life with nuclear power - Bombs and power station spills which could poison the oceans if enough of them cracked up and the bombs flew - You Knew?

200 years = = No Humans = = You'd hardly know that we ever existed on this Planet = = Some / A Lot ~ ~ Of Humility Needed.

 

[Mad as Fish]

We have heard about it by now - all the time if you're part of the geoengineering industry or follow their developments.

Tennessee passes 'chemtrail' bill banning airborne chemicals​

The bill forbids "intentional injection, release, or dispersion" of chemicals into the air.

It doesn't explicitly mention chemtrails, which conspiracy theorists believe are poisons spread by planes.

Instead it broadly prohibits "affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight".

Tennessee passes 'chemtrail' bill banning airborne chemicals

Critics say it was inspired by unsubstantiated conspiracy theories that planes are spraying poison.

www.bbc.com

Now, that latest news has been on every news channel, and loads of MSM, it's on this thread 3 times.

Loading toxic chemicals on to planes will require some sort of infrastructure in the way of storage tanks on the ground and personnel to transfer it to the planes. The pilots would need to be in the know as they are responsible for the safety of the aircraft and those on board. Having chemicals from a burst pipe slopping around the cargo hold is a risk they’d need to be informed of.

I have never come across any hint of any of this and considering the number of people that would need to be involved I’m inclined to think that if it is happening then the greater part of the commercial fleet is not in on it.

 

[Professor]

200 years = = No Humans = = You'd hardly know that we ever existed on this Planet = = Some / A Lot ~ ~ Of Humility Needed.

Link for Knowledge? I want to believe, show us some evidence if you're in the know?

 

[Professor]

I have never come across any hint of any of this

That's unbelievable because there are large corporations whose business has been to create weather for many decades.

Man-Made Weather Manipulation
Although it sounds like science fiction, weather machines are in action around the world already, influencing factors such as rainfall, storm severity and snowpack. Most of these rely on cloud seeding techniques that force clouds to rain.

For example, China is investing heavily in large projects to ensure sufficient agricultural water supply. News Corp Australia describes vast ground-based cauldrons or burners that release rain-making silver iodide particles into updrafts. As part of the "Skyriver" project, around 500 artificial rainmaking machines near the Tibetan plateau will cover an area larger than Alaska. Business Insider estimates rainfall of around 10 billion cubic meters.

Storm Control With Weather Machine Technology

Weather machine tech may soon control weather, from creating rain by flushing out clouds to reducing hurricane damage by reducing storm intensity.

now.northropgrumman.com

Don't worry MAF, your not expected to know everything but a little research on the subject will soon fill in the gaps.

 

[Mad as Fish]

That's unbelievable because there are large corporations whose business has been to create weather for many decades.

Man-Made Weather Manipulation
Although it sounds like science fiction, weather machines are in action around the world already, influencing factors such as rainfall, storm severity and snowpack. Most of these rely on cloud seeding techniques that force clouds to rain.

For example, China is investing heavily in large projects to ensure sufficient agricultural water supply. News Corp Australia describes vast ground-based cauldrons or burners that release rain-making silver iodide particles into updrafts. As part of the "Skyriver" project, around 500 artificial rainmaking machines near the Tibetan plateau will cover an area larger than Alaska. Business Insider estimates rainfall of around 10 billion cubic meters.

Storm Control With Weather Machine Technology

Weather machine tech may soon control weather, from creating rain by flushing out clouds to reducing hurricane damage by reducing storm intensity.

now.northropgrumman.com

Don't worry MAF, your not expected to know everything but a little research on the subject will soon fill in the gaps.

But is the commercial jet fleet involved? I don’t believe it is. China trying to mess with weather is only to be expected, but is it changing the overall mechanism that dictates the weather, otherwise known as the climate?

 

[Professor]

Loading toxic chemicals on to planes will require some sort of infrastructure in the way of storage tanks on the ground and personnel to transfer it to the planes. The pilots would need to be in the know as they are responsible for the safety of the aircraft and those on board. Having chemicals from a burst pipe slopping around the cargo hold is a risk they’d need to be informed of.

Yeah but they'd be specially trained, probably used to carrying all sorts of deadly cargo's as standard.

What you have to consider is that Pilots and the like actually sign strict non disclosure agreements in the standard airline industy, so special ops will obviously have special T's & C's on whistle blowing.

The fuel in the wings would be of a more volatile nature than cloud seeding spray, it's a bit like dumping fuel, happens everyday but no explosions in the air from it.
Has any pilot ever told you about dumping fuel??

 

[Fishalt]

But is the commercial jet fleet involved? I don’t believe it is. China trying to mess with weather is only to be expected, but is it changing the overall mechanism that dictates the weather, otherwise known as the climate?

No. Cloud seeding is possible. Global scale change of weather patterns is not known to be possible. The climate is definitely changing, however. Whether that's a result of anthropogenic emissions or natural processes, I couldn't say. To me it's moot for several reasons:

The Earth has changed many times before. If we could step back in time 20 million years ago, virtually no animal or plant life would be recognizable. All the world's a stage.

Climate change isn't what's presenting an existential threat to humans, ecological overshoot is. There's no way around the fact we are using 1.7 Earths compared to the Earth's biocapacity. I'm not worried about climate change, I'm worried about resource depletion and overpopulation.

 

[Professor]

But is the commercial jet fleet involved? I don’t believe it is. China trying to mess with weather is only to be expected, but is it changing the overall mechanism that dictates the weather, otherwise known as the climate?

But of course, weather modification is a commercial business, without passengers.
Northrupp Grumman that I've linked too recon it's 50+ countries who are are using their tech.

Your beliefs on the subject are groundless and need to be enhanced by acknowledgement of the facts as supplied by the geoengineering industry.

 

[Mad as Fish]

No. Cloud seeding is possible. Global scale change of weather patterns is not known to be possible. The climate is definitely changing, however. Whether that's a result of anthropogenic emissions or natural processes, I couldn't say. To me it's moot for several reasons:

The Earth has changed many times before. If we could step back in time 20 million years ago, virtually no animal or plant life would be recognizable. All the world's a stage.

Climate change isn't what's presenting an existential threat to humans, ecological overshoot is. There's no way around the fact we are using 1.7 Earths compared to the Earth's biocapacity. I'm not worried about climate change, I'm worried about resource depletion and overpopulation.

The climate is a dynamic system that never stands still, yet we are instructed to believe that there was once a stable situation that mankind has ripped asunder . We both know this to be nonsense, yet that is the implied narrative and with the human desire for comfort in thought and deed, it’s a nice simple idea ripe for exploitation.

I am not convinced by the ecological overshoot theory, with a more thoughtful use of the soil I would suggest that we can grow sufficient food with fewer inputs. We till it in lumpen ignorance I fear, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

 

[Mad as Fish]

But of course, weather modification is a commercial business, without passengers.
Northrupp Grumman that I've linked too recon it's 50+ countries who are are using their tech.

Your beliefs on the subject are groundless and need to be enhanced by acknowledgement of the facts as supplied by the geoengineering industry.

I am not saying that there isn’t a concerted effort to manage the weather, only that I don’t believe the commercial jet fleet is part of it.

 

[Fishalt]

The climate is a dynamic system that never stands still, yet we are instructed to believe that there was once a stable situation that mankind has ripped asunder . We both know this to be nonsense, yet that is the implied narrative and with the human desire for comfort in thought and deed, it’s a nice simple idea ripe for exploitation.

I am not convinced by the ecological overshoot theory, with a more thoughtful use of the soil I would suggest that we can grow sufficient food with fewer inputs. We till it in lumpen ignorance I fear, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

It's not just the soil, Fish. That's actually the least of our worries. I am familiar with soil. Bad soil. Likely worse by far than anything that occurs in Ireland. It can be turned around. It takes a lot of work, but it can be done with careful planning. You have farming experience and know that it's not just as simple as soil health. There's ferts and pesticides fungicides and all manner of shit involved. All that stuff requires stuff to create it.

Ecological overshoot refers to everything from ores to wheat to fish. We simply cannot go on consuming at the current rate. It's totally unsustainable.

 

[Professor]

I am not saying that there isn’t a concerted effort to manage the weather, only that I don’t believe the commercial jet fleet is part of it.

On August 8, 1958, the first aircraft artificial rain enhancement operation was executed in Jilin, usherin in the new era of contemporary weather modification in China. For the past 6 decades, weather modification operational system has evolved, enhanced capabilities to develop cloud and water resources, and given play to pronounced benefits in agricultural drought alleviation, hail prevention and disaster reduction, water resources deficit mitigation, and ecology improvement, and so on.​

In 1958, the first aircraft artificial rain enhancement operation was executed in Jilin







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[Mad as Fish]

It's not just the soil, Fish. That's actually the least of our worries. I am familiar with soil. Bad soil. Likely worse by far than anything that occurs in Ireland. It can be turned around. It takes a lot of work, but it can be done with careful planning. You have farming experience and know that it's not just as simple as soil health. There's ferts and pesticides fungicides and all manner of shit involved. All that stuff requires stuff to create.

Ecological overshoot refers to everything from ores to wheat to fish. We simply cannot go on consuming at the current rate. It's totally unsustainable.

I must admit that I was of that persuassion up until I started looking a little deeper into the organic/regenerative farming scene where some farmers are now outyielding their conventional neighbours. I’m coming round to the view that we really haven’t a clue what we are doing soil wise, treating it as a near sterile growing medium rather than a living ecosystem of which the crop is only a minor part.

 

[Fishalt]

On August 8, 1958, the first aircraft artificial rain enhancement operation was executed in Jilin, usherin in the new era of contemporary weather modification in China. For the past 6 decades, weather modification operational system has evolved, enhanced capabilities to develop cloud and water resources, and given play to pronounced benefits in agricultural drought alleviation, hail prevention and disaster reduction, water resources deficit mitigation, and ecology improvement, and so on.​

In 1958, the first aircraft artificial rain enhancement operation was executed in Jilin







​

Well yeah, but this is localized. As far as we know it's not possible to effect this on a macro scale. Cloud seeding isn't even that difficult really, and it can only work if there's already water in the air. Basically they spray 'dust' for lack of a better term at a specific elevation which atmospheric water binds too. If there's no water already present it doesn't work. If it did then the Saudis would have turned their arid shithole into the Amazon basin by now.

 

[Mad as Fish]

On August 8, 1958, the first aircraft artificial rain enhancement operation was executed in Jilin, usherin in the new era of contemporary weather modification in China. For the past 6 decades, weather modification operational system has evolved, enhanced capabilities to develop cloud and water resources, and given play to pronounced benefits in agricultural drought alleviation, hail prevention and disaster reduction, water resources deficit mitigation, and ecology improvement, and so on.​

In 1958, the first aircraft artificial rain enhancement operation was executed in Jilin







​

When a wee lad I clearly remember attempts to induce rain in Australia, I think, through seeding with Silver compounds, so am perfectly well aware that weather management has been going on for a long time.

 

[Fishalt]

I must admit that I was of that persuassion up until I started looking a little deeper into the organic/regenerative farming scene where some farmers are now outyielding their conventional neighbours. I’m coming round to the view that we really haven’t a clue what we are doing soil wise, treating it as a near sterile growing medium rather than a living ecosystem of which the crop is only a minor part.

Some of the stuff that's happening here in Aus is pretty amazing. I watched a landline special last year and some farmer (a woman no less) turned the shittiest, pebbliest, ugliest, driest and deadset billygoat country shit you've ever seen into viable pasture and farmland. Soil became good enough to grow bananas. It was incredible. She did it by creating water mazes and planting native grasses that are very effective at creating cation. Also planted native trees to offset harsh light exposure at intervals appropriate for lightfall throughout the day. She basically created light/water traps across hundreds of acres.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Some of the stuff that's happening here in Aus is pretty amazing. I watched a landline special last year and some farmer (a woman no less) turned the shittiest, pebbliest, ugliest, driest and deadset billygoat country shit you've ever seen into viable pasture and farmland. Soil became good enough to grow bananas. It was incredible. She did it by creating water mazes and planting native grasses that are very effective at creating cation. Also planted native trees to offset harsh light exposure at intervals appropriate for lightfall throughout the day. She basically created light/water traps across hundreds of acres.

Yep, that’s the sort of shift in mindset that is required, but I fear it may be beyond 95% of present farmers. I’m not knocking them, most do their best, but there is a new universe of knowledge to be assimilated if that shift is to come about.

 

[Professor]

"To boldly go where no mind has gone before"

 

[clarke-connolly]

Link for Knowledge? I want to believe, show us some evidence if you're in the know?

What has led you to believe that humans are so important on this planet ?

You and I individually are of No importance on this planet and neither is the human populations.

The Planet / Solar System / Galaxy / Universe doesn't even consider us as the tiny-ist squeak-ist Fart !

Learn some Humility

 

[clarke-connolly]

But of course, weather modification is a commercial business, without passengers.
Northrupp Grumman that I've linked too recon it's 50+ countries who are are using their tech.

Your beliefs on the subject are groundless and need to be enhanced by acknowledgement of the facts as supplied by the geoengineering industry.

In the not far future ~ ~ Maybe even a 100 years the World Population is going to start to reduce / collapse ~ ~ The Population of indigenous Irish People is already falling rapidly ~ ~ The Irish are a Dying People ~ ~ As are the British / Many Western Peoples.

Eventually this will probably happen to all the Peoples of the Planet.

 

[jpc]

It's about mans impact on the land and nature, the weather is secondary

Yep!poor farming practices were a major contribution.
Same thing with forests undergrowth not been allowed to naturally burn for years.

 

[jpc]

I must admit that I was of that persuassion up until I started looking a little deeper into the organic/regenerative farming scene where some farmers are now outyielding their conventional neighbours. I’m coming round to the view that we really haven’t a clue what we are doing soil wise, treating it as a near sterile growing medium rather than a living ecosystem of which the crop is only a minor part.

That's a serious discussion to have.
Very good observation.
Especially antibiotic laced farm manure impact on the soil biology and the bacteria in the soil.

 

[Professor]

What has led you to believe that humans are so important on this planet ?

You and I individually are of No importance on this planet and neither is the human populations.

The Planet / Solar System / Galaxy / Universe doesn't even consider us as the tiny-ist squeak-ist Fart !

Learn some Humility

Oh That! Well thanks for the perspective, why didn't you say so in the first place. You know it all along.
Kudos for the disclosure

 

[Professor]

In the not far future ~ ~ Maybe even a 100 years the World Population is going to start to reduce / collapse ~ ~ The Population of indigenous Irish People is already falling rapidly ~ ~ The Irish are a Dying People ~ ~ As are the British / Many Western Peoples.

Eventually this will probably happen to all the Peoples of the Planet.

Agreed, The great Billy Goates has said as much, and when he moves the earth sort of shakes a little.

His stated goal for geoengineering aligns with that of other old corps who endeavour to create a planetary canopy shield to deflect harmful xrays and solar radiation especially when and if the ozone layer should dissipate.

His other stated goals align with what you've just said. Kudos for the acknowledgement.

 

[Wolf]

Excellent news.
Warmer winters mean less fossil fuel being used to heat homes and businesses, the 'climate change cult' (formerly 'the global warming cult') should be over the moon.

Tenth straight month of historic heat in March - monitor

Europe's climate monitor has said that March was the hottest on record and the tenth straight month of historic heat, with sea surface temperatures also hitting a "shocking" new high.

www.rte.ie

 

[clarke-connolly]

Excellent news.
Warmer winters mean less fossil fuel being used to heat homes and businesses, the 'climate change cult' (formerly 'the global warming cult') should be over the moon.

Tenth straight month of historic heat in March - monitor

Europe's climate monitor has said that March was the hottest on record and the tenth straight month of historic heat, with sea surface temperatures also hitting a "shocking" new high.

www.rte.ie

Do you mean ~ ~ Global Warming Cunts ? !

 

[valamhic]

MSN

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Le Tissier had the moral high ground when he was sacked from Sky for criticising mandatory vaccinations.

He's tossed it all away now by going all Gemma/Buddy Love

Matt Le Tissier suggests Government controlled the weather during first Covid lockdown

The former Southampton midfielder says it is ‘almost like the Government planned’ good weather in March 2020

uk.yahoo.com

 

[Zipporah's Flint]

Le Tissier had the moral high ground when he was sacked from Sky for criticising mandatory vaccinations.

He's tossed it all away now by going all Gemma/Buddy Love

Matt Le Tissier suggests Government controlled the weather during first Covid lockdown

The former Southampton midfielder says it is ‘almost like the Government planned’ good weather in March 2020

uk.yahoo.com

Uh I am pretty sure the US developed the technology to adjust weather a while back. What your man said there is not THAT crazy.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

That the UK - and presumably everywhere else - rigged the weather to make it Sunny so they could release the virus?

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Buddy Love Snr & Buddy Love Jnr, Collooney Co Sligo, 1956


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw

 

[Professor]

Le Tissier had the moral high ground when he was sacked from Sky for criticising mandatory vaccinations.

He's tossed it all away now by going all Gemma/Buddy Love

Matt Le Tissier suggests Government controlled the weather during first Covid lockdown

The former Southampton midfielder says it is ‘almost like the Government planned’ good weather in March 2020

uk.yahoo.com

Ionospheric heating is way above the heads of the general public. They'd never understand that Geoengineer's are hard at work experimenting on weather control etc etc
Telly Programmed Heads get nervous when the truth becomes stranger than the fiction they worship, you know?

 

[Professor]

Buddy Love Snr & Buddy Love Jnr, Collooney Co Sligo, 1956


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw

The use of cloud seeding to alter a storm was not a new idea -- in fact, a weather modification program known as Project Cirrus accomplished the first cloud seeding of a hurricane back in 1947. However, instead of using silver iodide, this project experimented with dry ice as a method of seeding. Despite its ambitious nature, the successful seeding didn’t come without consequences: the hurricane, which had initially been tracking west to east and heading out to sea, reversed its path after it was seeded and made landfall in Savannah, Georgia, causing local destruction. Many blamed the seeding for this disaster, which had a negative effect on political and legal arrangements for future modification efforts. The project was officially canceled, and the embarrassing incident set back seeding research for more than a decade.

Almost Science Fiction: Hurricane Modification and Project STORMFURY - National Weather Service Heritage - Virtual Lab

In the years between 1962 and 1983, hurricane observation took an enormous step in an ambitious direction that almost sounds like science fiction: human interference and the modification of hurricanes. In the years between 1962 and 1983, hurricane observation took an enormous step in an...

vlab.noaa.gov

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

You and your Da were pioneers in bringing that technology to Ireland Sir.

I salute you.

 

[Professor]

You and your Da were pioneers in bringing that technology to Ireland Sir.

I salute you.

Really it's Gemma who deserves the credit for bringing the issue to the attention of the General Public, you know how dim and ignorant they prefer to act?
"Thank GO'D for the Weather" - Update!

 

[valamhic]

The use of cloud seeding to alter a storm was not a new idea -- in fact, a weather modification program known as Project Cirrus accomplished the first cloud seeding of a hurricane back in 1947. However, instead of using silver iodide, this project experimented with dry ice as a method of seeding. Despite its ambitious nature, the successful seeding didn’t come without consequences: the hurricane, which had initially been tracking west to east and heading out to sea, reversed its path after it was seeded and made landfall in Savannah, Georgia, causing local destruction. Many blamed the seeding for this disaster, which had a negative effect on political and legal arrangements for future modification efforts. The project was officially canceled, and the embarrassing incident set back seeding research for more than a decade.
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Almost Science Fiction: Hurricane Modification and Project STORMFURY - National Weather Service Heritage - Virtual Lab

In the years between 1962 and 1983, hurricane observation took an enormous step in an ambitious direction that almost sounds like science fiction: human interference and the modification of hurricanes. In the years between 1962 and 1983, hurricane observation took an enormous step in an...

vlab.noaa.gov

Can they do anything about Stormy Daniels?

 

[valamhic]

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/weather/topstories/australia-weather-millions-of-residents-shiver-through-coldest-morning-in-months-what-th