The Climate Change scam

[Professor]

Can they do anything about Stormy Daniels?

Tillage farmers were devastated to find that Stormy had blown so hard that their wild oats became crushed & flattened and left nothing but wet patches from behind in the cropped bedding.
Despite the drawbacks farmers are determined to sow more oats, a new hardier variety which still bends but remains erect in Stormy, conditions

 

[Mad as Fish]

Ionospheric heating is way above the heads of the general public. They'd never understand that Geoengineer's are hard at work experimenting on weather control etc etc
Telly Programmed Heads get nervous when the truth becomes stranger than the fiction they worship, you know?

The trouble I have with all these ideas about heating the atmosphere is that it takes an incredible amount of energy to do so.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Tillage farmers were devastated to find that Stormy had blown so hard that their wild oats became crushed & flattened and left nothing but wet patches from behind in the cropped bedding.
Despite the drawbacks farmers are determined to sow more oats, a new hardier variety which still bends but remains erect in Stormy, conditions

Farmers would be delighted to find their wild oats, Avena fatua, crushed as they are an awful weed. However, it is the common oat, Avena sativa, which is cultivated for your morning porridge and is indeed prone to lodging.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

I wonder if regular posters on this particular thread are worried about the real possibility of food shortages as a result of this either natural or man made bad weather.

Is the purpose to destroy harvests to engineer food shortages?

My wife is very particular about fruit and vegetables and she constantly laments the condition of these in the shops. That big supermarkets have removed sell by dates for they item and very often the vegetables are already sweating and going off in their bags even in shops.

That there is genuinely is a lack of good fresh food in the shops, although there may be substandard version still on shelves.

UK and Irish people seem adverse to fresh food. I have done charity bag packs in my time and having been shocked by the amount processed boxed chemical stuffed shite that people buy as their weekly shop. our local markets are cheap clothes etc but nary a fruit and veg man, nor a fish man.

Yet go to the continent and markets are filled with fresh produce and filled with people buying it too.


So if Irish and UK people are already on the hook of the Industrial food complex what is the point of chemically changing the weather to kill off production in the UK and Ireland?

 

[Professor]

The trouble I have with all these ideas about heating the atmosphere is that it takes an incredible amount of energy to do so.

The problem you have is having the scope of a dull Telly Head when it comes to Geoengineering.
It's not a question of "Ideas" .
The threads have links to the technology inventors, pioneers, industrial corporations and service providers.
Now unless you're willing to engage in the real progress you best go back to your football, late late show and sky movies gold or what ever you prefer. - Say a prayer and "Thank God for the Weather" when the opportunity arises.
No worries.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Something looks deeply amiss here.

Tenth consecutive monthly heat record alarms and confounds climate scientists

If the anomaly does not stabilise by August, ‘the world will be in uncharted territory’, says climate expert

www.theguardian.com

The way the stats are collected being a major concern.

 

[Professor]

Farmers would be delighted to find their wild oats, Avena fatua, crushed as they are an awful weed.

Exactly, and they were delighted when Stormy Daniels did the deed for them.
Then they went a got the proper varieties which stood up well to a Stormy's next arrival.

However, it is the common oat, Avena sativa, which is cultivated for your morning porridge and is indeed prone to lodging.

Yeah but a raging Stormy makes porridge out of wild oats, that why young country bucks carry the seed around, literally ffs

 

[Mad as Fish]

The problem you have is having the scope of a dull Telly Head when it comes to Geoengineering.
It's not a question of "Ideas" .
The threads have links to the technology inventors, pioneers, industrial corporations and service providers.
Now unless you're willing to engage in the real progress you best go back to your football, late late show and sky movies gold or what ever you prefer. - Say a prayer and "Thank God for the Weather" when the opportunity arises.
No worries.

Kindly provide an example of any incident where the weather was significantly altered, to what extent, for how long and how much energy was required to produce the effect

 

[Mad as Fish]

I wonder if regular posters on this particular thread are worried about the real possibility of food shortages as a result of this either natural or man made bad weather.

Is the purpose to destroy harvests to engineer food shortages?

My wife is very particular about fruit and vegetables and she constantly laments the condition of these in the shops. That big supermarkets have removed sell by dates for they item and very often the vegetables are already sweating and going off in their bags even in shops.

That there is genuinely is a lack of good fresh food in the shops, although there may be substandard version still on shelves.

UK and Irish people seem adverse to fresh food. I have done charity bag packs in my time and having been shocked by the amount processed boxed chemical stuffed shite that people buy as their weekly shop. our local markets are cheap clothes etc but nary a fruit and veg man, nor a fish man.

Yet go to the continent and markets are filled with fresh produce and filled with people buying it too.


So if Irish and UK people are already on the hook of the Industrial food complex what is the point of chemically changing the weather to kill off production in the UK and Ireland?

There has been a lot of pressure to reduce the use of preservatives and pesticides in the food chain and this might well be showing in the poor presentation of food, especially those varieties of fruit and vegetables which have been bred to look appetizing rather than resist deterioration.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Exactly, and they were delighted when Stormy Daniels did the deed for them.
Then they went a got the proper varieties which stood up well to a Stormy's next arrival.

Yeah but a raging Stormy makes porridge out of wild oats, that why young country bucks carry the seed around, literally ffs

You'll have a source for this?

 

[Professor]

Kindly provide an example of any incident where the weather was significantly altered, to what extent, for how long and how much energy was required to produce the effect

You must be joking?? You've proved yourself to be willfully ignorant on the subject so far. Unreliable in discussing the facts in links I've presented, very little and reluctant acknowledgement.

But, you asked what looks like a request above - To kindly provide?

Ok, it will take some time and dedication on your behalf to look through the research and perhaps watch a movie or two. But you have asked for it, so here - view at a time of your choosing . . .

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It's all in there

 

[jpc]

You must be joking?? You've proved yourself to be willfully ignorant on the subject so far. Unreliable in discussing the facts in links I've presented, very little and reluctant acknowledgement.

But, you asked what looks like a request above - To kindly provide?

Ok, it will take some time and dedication on your behalf to look through the research and perhaps watch a movie or two. But you have asked for it, so here - view at a time of your choosing . . .

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It's all in there

On a local level yes.
But on a global scale.
I wouldn't think so.

 

[Mad as Fish]

You must be joking?? You've proved yourself to be willfully ignorant on the subject so far. Unreliable in discussing the facts in links I've presented, very little and reluctant acknowledgement.

But, you asked what looks like a request above - To kindly provide?

Ok, it will take some time and dedication on your behalf to look through the research and perhaps watch a movie or two. But you have asked for it, so here - view at a time of your choosing . . .

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It's all in there

I will repeat that I have not taken the position that managing the weather is impossible. However, I am cautious when it comes to suggesting any any such modification can be significant or prolonged.

I watched the first brief slideshow in your link and decided that there was little point in pursuing it any further. The attempt to conflate CO2 with weather management marked the authors down as either ignorant of the subject or they were willfully misleading.

 

[Professor]

You'll have a source for this?

The Storms all have names, they're a matter of record, some are quite famous for the effect they've produced.

The young bucks found out that when sowing their wild oats they needed a full sack of the right stuff for the approaching Stormy

There you go, grounded in historical terms.

 

[Professor]

I will repeat that I have not taken the position that managing the weather is impossible. However, I am cautious when it comes to suggesting any any such modification can be significant or prolonged.

I watched the first brief slideshow in your link and decided that there was little point in pursuing it any further. The attempt to conflate CO2 with weather management marked the authors down as either ignorant of the subject or they were willfully misleading.

See, you prove to be an ignorant quitter incapable of browsing an established and academically supported database, in addition also disinterested in the questions you yourself asked.
Of course CO2 is mentioned as are all the other greenhouse gases as they're popularly termed.
So, you can dismiss a database of over 70 years of industry data??

Back to the Telly with you

 

[Wolf]

Climate Cultists remind me of the CoVidian Cultists.
Their way or no way.
Quite authoritarian.

 

[Mad as Fish]

See, you prove to be an ignorant quitter incapable of browsing an established and academically supported database, in addition also disinterested in the questions you yourself asked.
Of course CO2 is mentioned as are all the other greenhouse gases as they're popularly termed.
So, you can dismiss a database of over 70 years of industry data??

Back to the Telly with you

All I asked is for you to support your point with a specific example, not shower me with an ocean of slideshows to pick through.

 

[jpc]

Climate Cultists reming me of the CoVidian Cultists.
Their way or no way.
Quite authoritarian.

It's the lack of any solution bar poverty for the masses.
Eco fascism

 

[Professor]

All I asked is for you to support your point with a specific example, not shower me with an ocean of slideshows to pick through.

That slideshow is a list of 5 articles on the general subject. Best you stick with the RTE guide and Radio times.
The point is there to be clicked either by search function or simply by choosing 'Haarp' from the guide above.
If you're not interested, just forget about it.

 

[Mad as Fish]

That slideshow is a list of 5 articles on the general subject. Best you stick with the RTE guide and Radio times.
The point is there to be clicked either by search function or simply by choosing 'Haarp' from the guide above.
If you're not interested, just forget about it.

Put up or shut up, you are sounding more like CW with every post.

 

[A Man Called Charolais]

The Minnesota Senate recently passed (04-04-2024) an agriculture bill. Fairly routine stuff but there was an amendment offered to legislate for the mandatory labeling of insect or lab based food substitutes. It's on page 25 of the Senate record.



Senator Westrom moved to amend S.F. No. 4225 as follows:
Page 8, after line 29, insert:

"Sec. 18. [31.641] CELL-CULTURED PRODUCTS; INSECT PROTEIN.
Subdivision 1. Definitions.

(a) For purposes of this section, the following terms have the
meanings given.


(b) "Cell-cultured product" means a food product intended for human consumption and derived
by harvesting animal cells and artificially replicating those cells in a growth medium in a laboratory
to produce tissue.

(c) "Close proximity" means:

(1) immediately before or after the name of the product;

(2) in the line of the label immediately before or after the line containing the name of the product;

or

(3) within the same phrase or sentence containing the name of the product.

(d) "Insect product" means a food product intended for human consumption and derived by
combining processed insects with food additives to approximate the texture, flavor, appearance, or
other aesthetic qualities or the chemical characteristics of any specific type of egg, egg product,
fish, meat, meat product, poultry, or poultry product.

Subd. 2. Cell-cultured product labeling required. It is unlawful for any person to sell, offer
or expose for sale, or have in possession with intent to sell, a cell-cultured product at wholesale or
retail unless the product label bears, in prominent type equal to or greater in size than the surrounding
type and in close proximity to the name of the product, one of the following:

(1) "cell-cultured";

(2) "lab-grown"; or

(3) a similar qualifying term or disclaimer approved by the commissioner of agriculture and
intended to clearly communicate to a consumer the contents of the product.

Subd. 3. Insect product labeling required. It is unlawful for any person to sell, offer or expose
for sale, or have in possession with intent to sell, an insect product at wholesale or retail unless:

(1) the product label bears, in prominent type equal to or greater in size than the surrounding
type and in close proximity to the name of the product, the term insect protein or a similar qualifying
term or disclaimer approved by the commissioner of agriculture and intended to clearly communicate
to a consumer that the product is an insect product; and

(2) the ingredient list includes both the common and scientific name of each insect incorporated
in the insect product.

Subd. 4. Grocery stores and other retailers. It is unlawful for any person to sell, offer or
expose for sale, or have in possession with intent to sell, a cell-cultured product or insect product
at retail unless the products are labeled as required in subdivision 2 or 3.

Subd. 5. Restaurants and similar establishments. It is unlawful for any person to sell, offer
or expose for sale, or have in possession with intent to sell, a cell-cultured product, an insect product,
a food containing a cell-cultured product, or a food containing an insect product at a restaurant or
other food service establishment unless these products are clearly and prominently identified as
such on the menu or bill of fare."
[98TH DAYJOURNAL OF THE SENATE13394


The result was that it was voted down and, so, labeling is not required for insect or laboratory derived ersatz food substitutes.


The roll was called, and there were yeas 33 and nays 34, as follows:
Those who voted in the affirmative were: [REPUBLICANS]
...
Pursuant to Rule 40, Senator Jasinski cast the affirmative vote on behalf of the following Senators:
Duckworth and Miller.
Those who voted in the negative were: [DEMOCRATS]
...
Pursuant to Rule 40, Senator Kunesh cast the negative vote on behalf of the following Senators:
Dziedzic and Port.

The motion did not prevail. So the amendment was not adopted


Not a very appetizing prospect. Why won't they label the food in grocery stores or in a restaurant with bug and test tube symbols? Does anyone know what our food safety rules are on this subject?

 

[Professor]

Put up or shut up,

I've put up plenty of links & extracts from them, there are plenty more on the way.
You've chosen to ignore most of them.
I've put up but you're the one whose all shut-up, you won't even browse the sections I've mentioned.

you are sounding more like CW with every post.

I'm sorry for you're apparent creeping paranoia.

Forget it - You're just not interested in the subject.

 

[Mad as Fish]

I've put up plenty of links & extracts from them, there are plenty more on the way.
You've chosen to ignore most of them.
I've put up but you're the one whose all shut-up, you won't even browse the sections I've mentioned.

I'm sorry for you're apparent creeping paranoia.

Forget it - You're just not interested in the subject.

Just pick out your favourite, I have a job and stuff to get on with.

 

[Professor]

On a local level yes.
But on a global scale.
I wouldn't think so.

Local level, sure. Now just consider all the localities doing at the same time, We've been used to hearing about this stuff from the USA, now China's getting in on it big time . . .

In a statement, China's State Council said that the country's cloud-seeding project will expand fivefold to cover an area of 2.1 million square miles and be completed by 2025. (China encompasses 3.7 million square miles, meaning the project could cover 56% of the country's surface area.)

China is massively expanding its weather-modification program, saying it will be able to cover half the country in artificial rain and snow by 2025

Beijing said Tuesday that China's "cloud seeding" project will soon cover 2.1 million of China's 3.7 million square miles.

www.businessinsider.com

China to forge ahead with weather modification service

The State Council issued a circular, laying out measures for the quality development of weather modification.

english.www.gov.cn

Transboundary Implications of China's Weather Modification Programme | Transnational Environmental Law | Cambridge Core

Transboundary Implications of China's Weather Modification Programme - Volume 12 Issue 3

www.cambridge.org

The thing is, will India start it's own weather modification program? - they're taking China's moves very seriously as they predict they'll be experiencing drought if china nicks all the rain.

Cloud seeding isn’t new and has been used in different countries for decades. It works by injecting small amounts of silver iodide and chloride salts using rockets or special aircraft which brings water vapor with a lot of moisture and then it condenses into water droplets leading to rainfall.

Such weather modifications can affect the weather of other nations as well. “The emergence of ambitious geoengineering technologies could exacerbate tensions and even hostility between nations such as India and China. Without regulation, one country’s efforts could affect other countries,” stated Dhanasree Jayaram, assistant professor, Centre for Climate Studies, Manipal Academy of Higher Education.

China Threatens India With A Weather Modification System That Can Cover 1.5 Times The Area Of Entire India

India and China are engaged in a border dispute in Eastern Ladakh for the past seven months, and their troops are now preparing for a long and harsh winter in the western Himalayas.

www.eurasiantimes.com

 

[Professor]

Just pick out your favourite, I have a job and stuff to get on with.

Sure. I can appreciate you have important things to do and respect you're now busy working or organising your work for tomorrow - fair play.

The thing is we both know that you, I, and most all of us here dedicate some time of our time to frivolous activity such as reading the newspapers, watching the news, watching movies, reading weather reports, looking/listening to light entertainment for a couple of hours a few times a week.

Me, I just spent 15 minutes looking at 3 separate short vids on the Haarp section which gave a wonderful introduction on the topic.
People who cannot devote 15 minutes to watching a few informative vids which they expressed an interest in clearly are really not all that interested.

Do you watch Movies? Well there are some documentary films to watch - with no ad breaks.

Maybe you don't watch TV, read papers or watch films, Ok I can respect that - Fair play . . . But where do you get your current information in regard to the weather and climate from?

 

[Wolf]

Project Veritas did expose the corrupt media telling us back in 2021 that the climate cult would be the next cult they push once the ConVid scam was done with.

And look.......

 

[Professor]

Project Veritas did expose the corrupt media telling us back in 2021 that the climate cult would be the next cult they push once the ConVid scam was done with.

And look.......

Look at what?

 

[Wolf]

I won't be engaging with cultlike fanatics.
Cults are never a good thing, there's no talking to brainwashed individuals or paid propagandists.

 

[Professor]

I won't be engaging with cultlike fanatics.
Cults are never a good thing, there's no talking to brainwashed individuals or paid propagandists.

The Stratospheric Controlled Perturbation Experiment (SCoPEx) aimed to see how a tiny amount of aerosol in a trial would influence the immediate surroundings. But now, Harvard says it’s delaying the study to examine the impact on Sweden itself, as well as the indigenous Sami people who live in the region.

Geoengineering is the term for technologies that try to alter Earth’s physical qualities on the largest scale possible. One example is cloud seeding, where airplanes flush clouds with particulate matter in order to coalesce into rain. Carbon capture, where emissions are taken and sequestered beneath Earth’s surface, is another major form of geoengineering.

Bill Gates Will Have to Wait a While to Block the Sun

Scientists have postponed the billionaire-backed study of the controversial technology called solar geoengineering.

www.popularmechanics.com

Careful though, perhaps you and @Mad as Fish will form your own Cult of Denialism because Geoengineering now is considered mainstream news, no?

P.S. Sweden actually denied Bill Gates the opportunity to conduct his experiment - It's in the MSM.

 

[Professor]

Put up or shut up, you are sounding more like CW with every post.

Actually ,it's you who appear to be doing exactly what Charlotte does. When presented with evidence, it used to discredit the source material and deny the existence of the technology.

 

[Professor]

Of course one of the often publicized objectives of geoengineering is to implement weather warfare upon adversaries.
One would imagine that our resident war commentators would acknowledge such . . . .


Geography plays a critical role in shaping the politics of a region. The uneven distribution of natural resources at times influences the regional political landscape enormously. But to a greater extent than ever before, these natural resources can be tweaked as per a country’s requirements over the near to medium term through various techniques of geoengineering.

Geoengineering refers to the large-scale manipulation of a specific process central to controlling and channeling the earth’s resources, such as those of the oceans, rivers, soil, and atmosphere. These techniques are undergoing rapid development primarily to achieve sustainable development in the fields of agriculture, water resource management, energy generation, navigation, connectivity, and climate change mitigation. Unfortunately, the use of these geoengineering techniques is not limited to such noble objectives; they can also be harnessed to dominate or subjugate other countries in a certain region.

China has adopted a strategy of hybrid warfare against countries that it considers hostile or potentially hostile. Geoengineering has the potential to become a game-changing tool for Beijing’s implementation of a hybrid warfare strategy, especially in China’s neighborhood. Various geoengineering techniques could amplify China’s grey zone capabilities in a given theater and shape its future strategy in regional geopolitics. There are three main geoengineering techniques that have bolstered China’s or hybrid warfare capabilities.

How China Uses Geoengineering to Pursue a Hybrid Warfare Strategy

China’s growing ability to alter and manipulate the physical environment could help advance its geopolitical ambitions.

thediplomat.com

 

[Mad as Fish]

Actually ,it's you who appear to be doing exactly what Charlotte does. When presented with evidence, it used to discredit the source material and deny the existence of the technology.

I have responded in the weather thread as this argument is not about the climate.

 

[Professor]

I have responded in the weather thread as this argument is not about the climate.

Okay, fair enough.

 

[Professor]

That really sums it up nicely and precisely.....Another of the great scams formulated in Davos.

Well said, Funny how we do agree on certain aspects of the scam?

 

[Mad as Fish]

Another old favourite of the climate alarmists bites the dust -

Islands That Climate Alarmists Said Would Soon "Disappear" Due to Rising Sea Found to Have Grown in Size – The Daily Sceptic

In a fresh blow to climate alarmism, islands like Tuvalu and the Maldives that were predicted soon to "disappear" beneath rising seas have been found to have actually grown in size.

dailysceptic.org

 

[Wolf]

Another old favourite of the climate alarmists bites the dust -

Islands That Climate Alarmists Said Would Soon "Disappear" Due to Rising Sea Found to Have Grown in Size – The Daily Sceptic

In a fresh blow to climate alarmism, islands like Tuvalu and the Maldives that were predicted soon to "disappear" beneath rising seas have been found to have actually grown in size.

dailysceptic.org

Sea levels ARE rising you know.
It's the reason the 'elites' like Clinton, Obama, Biden etc etc continue to build multi billion dollar mansions on the seashore....

 

[clarke-connolly]

Another old favourite of the climate alarmists bites the dust -

Islands That Climate Alarmists Said Would Soon "Disappear" Due to Rising Sea Found to Have Grown in Size – The Daily Sceptic

In a fresh blow to climate alarmism, islands like Tuvalu and the Maldives that were predicted soon to "disappear" beneath rising seas have been found to have actually grown in size.

dailysceptic.org

All the Extra Polar Bears are now going there, for their Summer Holidays ! ! !

 

[clarke-connolly]

Sea levels ARE rising you know.
It's the reason the 'elites' like Clinton, Obama, Biden etc etc continue to build multi billion dollar mansions on the seashore....

You'd think they'd be ~ ~ Buying Sub-Marines ! !

 

[Tiger]

List of Geoengineering patents

https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org...iMAR42X5f3EIUU4ofvigX3I9Rw9MTQ9jvjb4fVWBOBtz8

 

[Tiger]