The death of Catholic Ireland, greatly exaggerated?

scolairebocht

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I have been on that march 3 times, I am telling you its full of very committed young Catholics, not a few of whom are from Ireland, they exist!lol

Seriously I cannot get over how pessimistic some are here, I am not sure all commentators here are really knowledgeable about modern Catholic Ireland? Because there is a revival happening, ok its early days but its all age groups and both genders.
 

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I have been on that march 3 times, I am telling you its full of very committed young Catholics, not a few of whom are from Ireland, they exist!lol

Seriously I cannot get over how pessimistic some are here, I am not sure all commentators here are really knowledgeable about modern Catholic Ireland? Because there is a revival happening, ok its early days but its all age groups and both genders.
Only the Catholics will Fight the Evil of Islam in Ireland !
 

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Only the Catholics will Fight the Evil of Islam in Ireland !

That would greatly anger savage Ulster Protestants if you said that to them. Even in Southern actual Protestants would bristle at that.

However the Irish demographic most likely to convert to Islam are women from Ulster Prod backgrounds. In fact one of the leading figures of Al Queda is an Ulster Scot female.

 

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I suspect that through-out History it is the Catholics that have fought most and best against the Evil of Islam ~ ~ Perhaps a more scholarly person could put me right if I am wrong !
 

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I have been on that march 3 times, I am telling you its full of very committed young Catholics, not a few of whom are from Ireland, they exist!lol Seriously I cannot get over how pessimistic some are here, I am not sure all commentators here are really knowledgeable about modern Catholic Ireland? Because there is a revival happening, ok its early days but its all age groups and both genders.
Sir, you've yet to post a video or picture of a Catholic church with any young people in it a'tall.

Sparky is right, I think you're deluded.
 

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I suspect that through-out History it is the Catholics that have fought most and best against the Evil of Islam ~ ~ Perhaps a more scholarly person could put me right if I am wrong !

"....The North is full of tangled things and texts and aching eyes
And dead is all the innocence of anger and surprise,
And Christian killeth Christian in a narrow dusty room,
And Christian dreadeth Christ that hath a newer face of doom,
And Christian hateth Mary that God kissed in Galilee,
But Don John of Austria is riding to the sea...."
 

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Just to address that point about the young and this revival: well one of the great occasions of the traditional movement, and particularly its younger quotient, is the annual Pentecost Paris-Chartres (or Chartres-Paris) pilgrimage. It attracts a younger crowd because its more a march than a walk and is pretty arduous, anyway now, for the first time, its sold out, they cannot accomodate the huge numbers:

France is gigantic and the french do not desire to live anywhere else and they have all they wish in this huge country .
they have traditions we know nothing about and i have found a viciousness and a dangerous streak in many of them-they can be very hard on each other and there is a pecking order like the British but not the same .
i see great polarization there --people take extreme positions frequently to the point of self destruction.
the existence of the catholic religion in France is a mystery to me as i have traveled extensively in the Carcassonne /Languedoc area and know nearly every village and town and the locals in the middle ages became CATHARS and were then exterminated by pope innocent as he believed this religion which had what is called PURE ONES as their priests who unbelievably did not rob the laity with huge bills for indulgences or for performing any priestly duties .
the pure ones charged nothing and lived amongst the laity and depended on them for food and sustenance and lived like early Christians and as a result the religion took hold as the catholic church was so corrupt
the method of warfare was simple and deadly --the second sons of the nobility of northern France who were destined to inherit nothing and thereby never amount to much were told by the pope if they formed in their thousands and went to southern France and exterminated the Cathars he would give them the castles and titles of those they genocided with absoulitution for their murdering - however they had to exterminate THEM ALL-- CHILDREN ESPECIALLY.
There is a famous quote from a monk who was the popes representative on the crusade when the soldiers tired of the slaughter approached the monk to ask ""surely we should spare those who state they are Catholics "" back came the famous reply "" NO KILL THEM ALL GOD WILL RECOGNIZE HIS OWN"".
scolairebocht --you are a good and sincere man --i am not damming the catholic faith -but it is the target of a criminal element thought its history and i try and be a christian man .
my guiding philosophy was formed by the BBC in the 70s in England when by accident one night i was watching TV and i out of boredom watched a political program and briefly the the great cardinal Basil Hume was interviewed by a crass mocking evil reporter who taunted him as he had just been elected cardinal and to denigrate him the reporter asked sarcastically ""MY LORD CARDINAL DO YOU THINK YOU AN ENGLISH CARDINAL WILL EVER BE POPE ---HAVE YOU MY LORD HAVE YOU ANY AMBITION ?----------"" I HAVE AN AMBITION TO DIE A CHRISTIAN" came the reply which floored the studio .
i was young and i thought about this for a few days and my hatred of priests and the catholic church which had tried to rob me of everything i possessed for years dissipated and i reasoned if a man was brave and humble enough to admit he could be a cardinal or pope and not be a christian --that was the first statement from a person of caliber i had heard in my young life and i never forgot the primacy of being a christian at the expense of Catholicism if required .
 

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I don't know is this an April Fools or what but its said that Vance, obviously the US vice president, will go on that French pilgrimage this year.
 

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Anway you heard about it here first!
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Are these pricks totally brain dead or something.
I think the traditional catholics like @scolairebocht , they need to form a new church altogether somehow
 

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Are these pricks totally brain dead or something.
I think the traditional catholics like @scolairebocht , they need to form a new church altogether somehow
The parish priest where I live recently told his congregation that he doesn’t believe in God and asked for their prayers to help him.

Go figure.
 

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The Catholic Church made the mistake of taking in Perverts and Homosexuals = = And this is how it ends up these days ! !
 

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Talk about being a suicide bomber!!!!

how is this lad so stupid
 

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That is whats known as

an unexpected change of plans
 

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From thier FB page, this is a group in France who go around the country restoring old Catholic monuments. Inspiring stuff and their page is worth a follow. A good idea that could be emulated in Ireland.
 

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