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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 146035" data-attributes="member: 353">James, I am starting to genuinely feel sorry for you.  This is too easy for me. When I posted my original question, they idea was for you to simply deflect and do your usual hand waving with some lame "that's a mystery" and some of your usual promissory scientism added on for good measure. However, what has shocked even me, was that you couldn't (at the time) and still can't even understand what was being asked. You actually had to Google it, like a student bluffing through an exam. If you’d understood the question, you’d know your copy-and-paste answer only exposes that you don’t see the problem at all. Every line you type confirms that you lazily borrow your opinions wholesale and haven’t had a single original thought about them. It's starting to make sense why you are a big fan of Fake Dave and his charlatan grifter YouTube channel.Your AI response is simply more evidence of the precise moment where most materialists quietly smuggle in philosophical magic under the word “self-organisation.” You don't even have the bloody where-with-all to be able to judge if your AI answer is actually a satisfactory answer. Here's the bit where I educate you James -  “autocatalysis” and “self-organisation” are descriptions of already existing systems with feedback, not explanations for how coded information arose in the first place. Chemical reactions can repeat, amplify, or stabilise; but none of that creates symbolic information or error-correcting algorithms. It's describing a puddle finding its shape, not a program writing itself.The moment you invoke “self-organisation,” you’ve left empirical chemistry and entered metaphysics; because atoms don’t “self-organise” into code without a set of rules, syntax, and semantics already in play. Even in autocatalytic systems, the molecules simply react; they don’t encode instructions for replication. The information problem; the origin of the digital genetic code remains completely untouched.You’re AI response admits the central mystery, then tries to disguise it with a label. “Autocatalysis” is chemistry; “information” is logic. No known law of physics can bridge that gap. Until someone can show how lifeless molecules produce encoded, symbolic information capable of error correction, they haven’t explained life from non-life.</blockquote>

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