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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 117368" data-attributes="member: 353">Saying the Pre-Reformation Church was just a tool of imperialism misses the bigger picture. The Church was trying to keep the Faith alive in a time when Protestantism was trying to tear it apart. Sure, there were political moves made, but that doesn’t mean the Church was simply supporting foreign rule.Take the Plantagenet conquest—you say it wasn’t so bad, but it had its own share of suppression and domination. Many Irish clerics, like St. Oliver Plunkett, fought hard to protect their people and their identity against oppressive forces. They weren’t just pawns; they were champions of a Catholic identity deeply intertwined with Irish nationalism.So, while it’s easy to throw around labels like “imperialism,” we need to recognize the messy reality of history. The Church was navigating tough waters, trying to uphold faith amidst chaos. Today’s challenges, like globalism, are no different. We need to stay true to our roots and learn from the past rather than oversimplify it.Also, I wasn’t aware that you are a Proddy before today.</blockquote>

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