Ukraine.

[Wolf]

Zitler is screwed, the puppet is going to lose 20% of Ukraine, will not be in NATO and has killed a couple of hundred thousand young Ukrainians.
A sad little loser all round.

‘We are almost there’ on settlement of Ukraine conflict – Trump envoy​

Washington’s proposed peace plan will yield an end to the hostilities, Keith Kellogg has said

US President Donald Trump’s envoy Keith Kellogg. © Getty Images/Marek Antoni Iwanczuk


Washington is “very close” to helping broker an end to the Ukraine conflict, US President Donald Trump’s envoy Keith Kellogg said in an interview with Fox News on Saturday, adding that Trump is determined to bring it to a close.
Washington presented Kiev last week with a new proposal for ending the conflict with Moscow, and urged Ukrainian officials to respond by Thursday. The proposed 28-point plan reportedly includes multiple clauses repeatedly refused by Kiev and its Western European backers, such as Ukraine giving up on its NATO aspirations, a withdraw from parts of Donbass still under Kiev’s control, and limiting the size of its armed forces.
US talks on the proposed peace plan began Sunday in Geneva with Ukrainian and Western European officials. A Russian delegation is not expected to take part, but consultations with American counterparts should be expected “very soon,” according to Reuters.
“In the military, we always say the last 10 meters to an objective are always the hardest to get to. We’re at the last two meters, we’re almost there” the envoy said.

On Thursday, Ukraine’s UN mission rejected several key clauses reportedly included in the plan. Deputy Permanent Representative Kristina Gayovishin said Kiev would “never recognize” any formerly Ukrainian territory as part of Russia.
Kellogg described Ukraine’s public position, including its refusal to acknowledge territorial losses, as “posturing.” “I hear what she is saying,” he said of Gayovishin, “but it’s part of their posture, and they need to make a smart decision.”
Russian President Vladimir Putin said the US plan is a revised version of a proposal drafted after his meeting with President Trump in Alaska. He added that Moscow has received the text but has not yet discussed it “in detail.”
The US submitted the plan as Zelensky’s legitimacy at home has been significantly undermined by a corruption scandal that involved his inner circle, while Ukrainian forces at the front have faced a series of setbacks.
President Trump said on Saturday that Zelensky can “continue to fight his little heart out” should he refuse the proposed peace plan to settle the conflict.

‘We are almost there’ on settlement of Ukraine conflict – Trump envoy

Washington’s proposed peace plan provides the framework for reaching an end to the Ukraine conflict, Trump’s envoy Keith Kellogg has said

www.rt.com

 

[Wolf]

The fascists in the EU should keep their noses out of non-EU countries business.

EU defies Trump’s Ukraine peace deal​

Brussels has put forward its own conditions for an end to hostilities

FILE PHOTO: the EU Commission head, Ursula von der Leyen. © Global Look Press / Michael Kappeler


The EU has reportedly rejected the Ukraine peace deal drafted by the White House, putting forward its own set of conditions for a potential agreement.
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen made the announcement on Sunday as US officials were discussing Washington’s proposal with EU and Ukrainian representatives in Geneva, Switzerland.
The US had submitted its plan to both Moscow and Kiev earlier this week. The contents of the document have not been officially disclosed to the public.
Media outlets have claimed that, among other things, it calls upon Kiev to withdraw troops from the part of Russia’s Donbass it still controls, downsize its military, and shelve its NATO aspirations in exchange for Western security guarantees.
In a statement published on X, von der Leyen specifically rejected all those conditions. “We have agreed on the main elements necessary for a just and lasting peace and Ukraine's sovereignty,” she stated, adding that Ukraine’s borders cannot be changed “by force” and that no limitations can be placed on Kiev’s military.

The European Commission president also demanded that the EU play a central role “in securing peace for Ukraine” and that Kiev be allowed to join it.
On Saturday, Bloomberg reported that the EU was seeking to essentially rewrite the US plan by disguising major changes to it as “constructive updates.” The bloc was also reportedly trying to “buy Ukraine more time” and postpone the American deadline.
Trump had said earlier that Kiev has to accept the proposal by Thursday, November 27. Vladimir Zelensky said on Friday that Ukraine was facing a choice between accepting “28 difficult points” or the risk of losing its “key partner” and enduring a “hard winter.”
Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed that Moscow had received the American plan, adding that it could serve as “the basis of a final peace settlement” but has yet to be discussed “in detail.”

 

[jpc]

The fascists in the EU should keep their noses out of non-EU countries business.

EU defies Trump’s Ukraine peace deal​

Brussels has put forward its own conditions for an end to hostilities

FILE PHOTO: the EU Commission head, Ursula von der Leyen. © Global Look Press / Michael Kappeler


The EU has reportedly rejected the Ukraine peace deal drafted by the White House, putting forward its own set of conditions for a potential agreement.
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen made the announcement on Sunday as US officials were discussing Washington’s proposal with EU and Ukrainian representatives in Geneva, Switzerland.
The US had submitted its plan to both Moscow and Kiev earlier this week. The contents of the document have not been officially disclosed to the public.
Media outlets have claimed that, among other things, it calls upon Kiev to withdraw troops from the part of Russia’s Donbass it still controls, downsize its military, and shelve its NATO aspirations in exchange for Western security guarantees.
In a statement published on X, von der Leyen specifically rejected all those conditions. “We have agreed on the main elements necessary for a just and lasting peace and Ukraine's sovereignty,” she stated, adding that Ukraine’s borders cannot be changed “by force” and that no limitations can be placed on Kiev’s military.

The European Commission president also demanded that the EU play a central role “in securing peace for Ukraine” and that Kiev be allowed to join it.
On Saturday, Bloomberg reported that the EU was seeking to essentially rewrite the US plan by disguising major changes to it as “constructive updates.” The bloc was also reportedly trying to “buy Ukraine more time” and postpone the American deadline.
Trump had said earlier that Kiev has to accept the proposal by Thursday, November 27. Vladimir Zelensky said on Friday that Ukraine was facing a choice between accepting “28 difficult points” or the risk of losing its “key partner” and enduring a “hard winter.”
Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed that Moscow had received the American plan, adding that it could serve as “the basis of a final peace settlement” but has yet to be discussed “in detail.”

Wow so that's put the wind up the Russians.
So what will they do?
It's an irrelevance.
Led by an unelectable incompetent.

 

[Haven]

Shatura PP gets blasted.


View: https://youtu.be/bWfn5hFwGyA?si=cCSO75OvG9ug0qfl

 

[Wolf]

Four killed in 'massive' Russian strike amid peace talks
https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2025/1124/1545481-ukraine-russia/

 

[Wolf]

The sanctions have done what they were supposed to do, impoverish millions of EU citizens.

EU sanctions against Russia have ‘failed’ – US Treasury secretary​

If something is done 19 times in a row with no success, that means it is not working, Scott Bessent has said

FILE PHOTO: US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent. © Global Look Press / Yuri Gripas

EU sanctions against Russia

over the Ukraine conflict are ineffective, US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told NBC News on Sunday. He also criticized the bloc for pursuing the same strategy 19 times in a row and claimed EU officials were essentially “funding the war on themselves.”
Last month, Brussels introduced its 19th package of sanctions against Russia, targeting banks, crypto exchanges, and Indian and Chinese businesses, as well as Moscow’s diplomats.
Russia has repeatedly called Western attempts to put pressure on it in a bid to support Ukraine’s war effort futile and self-destructive. The strategy also caused rifts within the bloc itself, with dissenting nations, including Hungary and Slovakia, urging Brussels to reconsider its approach and engage in diplomacy instead.
According to Bessent, the US has combined its peace initiatives with “pressure” on Moscow. The EU nations were “the real laggards” in this regard, he said, recalling how the bloc’s officials informed him about their plans to introduce the latest round of anti-Russian sanctions.

In my mind… if you’re going to do something 19 times, you’ve failed.

Bessent also criticized the EU for its reluctance to follow the US tariff strategy on China and India and buying their products made of Russian oil. President Donald Trump had been pressuring European NATO members to hit Beijing with sweeping trade tariffs, citing its continued purchases of energy via Siberia. The current US administration is engaged in what he called a “trade war” against China.

Washington also slapped India with 50% tariffs over its purchases of Russian oil. New Delhi denounced the move as “unfair, unjustified and unreasonable.”
Earlier this week, US Vice President J.D. Vance also criticized the EU approach towards the Ukraine conflict by calling Brussels’ expectations unrealistic. “There is a fantasy that if we just give more money, more weapons, or more sanctions, victory is at hand,” he said.
In mid-November, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio admitted that America was “running out of things to sanction” in Russia after Washington blacklisted oil giants Lukoil and Rosneft in a move he said was made at the request of Kiev and its backers.

 

[Haven]

Why Russia has to have a deal now.

Russia’s Battlefield Woes in Ukraine

Russia has performed poorly on the battlefield in Ukraine and will likely hit the 1 million casualty mark in the summer of 2025. New CSIS data details Russia's slow rate of advance, heavy losses of equipment, and significant casualties.

www.csis.org

First, Russian forces have advanced an average of only 50 meters per day in such areas as Kharkiv, slower than during the Somme offensive in World War I, where French and British forces advanced an average of 80 meters per day. Russian rates of advance have also been significantly slower than during such offensives as Galicia in 1914 (1,580 meters per day), Gorzia in 1916 (500 meters), Belleau Wood in 1918 (410 meters), Leningrad in 1943 (1,000 meters), and Kursk-Oboyan in 1943 (3,220 meters). Even Russia’s rate of advance in parts of Donetsk Oblast, averaging 135 meters per day, has been remarkably slow.

Second, Russia’s seizure of approximately 5,000 square kilometers of territory in Ukraine since January 2024 has been paltry—amounting to less than 1 percent of Ukrainian territory—and has occurred mainly in Donetsk, Luhansk, and Kharkiv Oblasts. Russia’s marginal gains are particularly noteworthy compared to its conquest of 120,000 square kilometers during the first five weeks of the war and Ukraine’s recapture of 50,000 square kilometers in the spring of 2022.

Third, Russia has lost substantial quantities of equipment across the land, air, and sea domains, highlighting the sharp matériel toll of its attrition campaign. Since January 2024, for example, Russia has lost roughly 1,149 armored fighting vehicles, 3,098 infantry fighting vehicles, 300 self-propelled artillery, and 1,865 tanks. Even more noteworthy, Russian equipment losses have been significantly higher than Ukrainian losses, varying between a ratio of 5:1 and 2:1 in Ukraine’s favor.

Fourth, Russian fatalities and casualties have been extraordinary. Russia will likely hit the 1 million casualty mark in the summer of 2025—a stunning and grisly milestone. Overall, a high of 250,000 Russian soldiers have died in Ukraine, with over 950,000 total Russian casualties, a sign of Putin’s blatant disregard for his soldiers. To put these numbers into historical perspective, Russia has suffered roughly five times as many fatalities in Ukraine as in all Russian and Soviet wars combined between the end of World War II and the start of the full-scale invasion in February 2022. In addition, Russian fatalities in Ukraine (in just over three years) are 15 times larger than the Soviet Union’s decade-long war in Afghanistan and 10 times larger than Russia’s 13 years of war in Chechnya.6

And then, this.

The Slow Death of Russian Oil

Why Ukraine’s campaign against Moscow’s energy sector is working.

www.foreignaffairs.com

 

[clarke-connolly]

Haven = = Why don't you go to the Front-Line and fight the Russians ? !

Sarsfields may even sponsor a one way flight for you !

 

[Mad as Fish]

Haven = = Why don't you go to the Front-Line and fight the Russians ? !

Sarsfields may even sponsor a one way flight for you !

I should think most flights of a similar nature are one way.

 

[Wolf]

Haven = = Why don't you go to the Front-Line and fight the Russians ? !

Sarsfields may even sponsor a one way flight for you !

Yea, there'd be plenty of dirty boots to be licked at the frontline alright.
Chap is made for it.
He could bring Snitch with him too.

 

[Wolf]

Facts.

Ukrainian victory over Russia a ‘fantasy’ – Vance​

Only “smart people living in the real world” could stop the fighting between Moscow and Kiev, the US vice president has said

FILE PHOTO: US Vice President J.D. Vance speaking to journalists. © Getty Images / Tasos Katopodis


US Vice President J.D. Vance has defended Washington’s plan for settling the Ukraine conflict, arguing that its opponents are wrong to think that increasing pressure on Russia could change the situation on the battlefield.
On Friday, former Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell claimed on X that the proposal, which the administration of US President Donald Trump submitted to both Moscow and Kiev earlier this week, was a “capitulation” and “disastrous” to American interests.
Senator Jeanne Shaheen, the most senior Democrat on the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, told CNN that “this is a [Russian President Vladimir] Putin plan for Ukraine,” insisting that the White House should instead ramp up secondary sanctions against Russia’s trading partners and supply Ukraine with long-range weapons.
Vance wrote in a post on X on Saturday that “every criticism of the peace framework the administration is working on either misunderstands the framework or misstates some critical reality on the ground.”

“There is a fantasy that if we just give more money, more weapons, or more sanctions, victory is at hand,” he wrote.
According to the vice president, peace between Moscow and Kiev could be achieved by “smart people living in the real world,” but not by “failed diplomats or politicians living in a fantasy land.”
The US plan has not been officially disclosed, but media reports have claimed that, among other things, it calls upon Kiev to withdraw troops from the parts of Russia’s Donbass it still controls, downsize its military, and give up on NATO aspirations in exchange for Western security guarantees.
Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky claimed on Friday that his country is now forced to choose between accepting the “28 difficult points” in the proposal or the risk of losing its key backer, the US.
Trump insisted later that the Ukrainian leader “will have to like” the US plan or face the prospect of fighting Russia through the “cold winter.” According to Financial Times, Washington has issued an ultimatum to Kiev to accept its roadmap by Thursday.
READ MORE: Trump envoy issues ultimatum to Ukraine – FT
Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that the US plan has not yet been discussed “in detail,” but suggested that it could eventually “form the basis of a final peace settlement.”

 

[Haven]

Haven = = Why don't you go to the Front-Line and fight the Russians ? !

Sarsfields may even sponsor a one way flight for you !

Im sure the Russians would love to grab a few of the lads here - you get a signing bonus and a free one way trip to the front.

 

[Wolf]

Im sure the Russians would love to grab a few of the lads here - you get a signing bonus and a free one way trip to the front.

Haven't you got some boots to lick?
Run along there, little boy.

 

[clarke-connolly]

Im sure the Russians would love to grab a few of the lads here - you get a signing bonus and a free one way trip to the front.

Off to the front-line with ya !

Don't delay !

 

[Haven]

Off to the front-line with ya !

Don't delay !

 

[clarke-connolly]

I don't give two fooks who " wins " ! !

 

[Haven]

I don't give two fooks who " wins " ! !

You're ideal Russian recruitment material!

 

[clarke-connolly]

You're ideal Russian recruitment material!

Are you still here ? !

Tis time for you to make a worthless futile " sacrifice " ! ?

 

[Wolf]

Are you still here ? !

Tis time for you to make a worthless futile " sacrifice " ! ?

It's just trolling. The usual shit when the bootlicker has no answers.

 

[Wolf]

Always follow the money.
The scum will always be there.

Arms industry investors in panic over Ukraine peace talks​

Shares of weapons giant Rheinmetall have slumped after Washington proposed terms to Kiev to end hostilities

FILE PHOTO. © Lukas Schulze/Getty Images


The prospect of a possible peace in Ukraine has caused “panic” among investors in the German defence industry, sending stocks of arms manufacturers such as Rheinmetall tumbling.
The US reportedly handed Kiev a 28-point peace proposal last week and gave it until Thursday to respond. The framework was discussed in Geneva on Sunday, with US President Donald Trump saying afterwards that “something good” may be happening.
The peace push immediately unnerved investors, triggering a fierce sell-off of shares in Rheinmetall, Germany’s largest arms manufacturer and a key supplier of military equipment to Kiev. Rheinmetall stock has fallen by over 14% over the past five days, with defense-electronics producer Hensoldt recording a similar drop.
“Investors fear that an end to hostilities could also mean the end of the “super-cycle” for defense stocks,” Boerse-Express wrote.

Germany has become Kiev’s second-largest arms provider after the US, and Rheinmetall, which produces tanks, artillery systems, and ammunition, recently reported surging profits for the first nine months of 2025, alongside a record order backlog driven by the conflict and rising EU military budgets. Company shares have climbed nearly 2,000% since fighting escalated almost four years ago.
During the previous US attempt to broker peace in February, Rheinmetall CEO Armin Papperger argued that even if the fighting were to end, it would be “wrong” for Europe to assume “a peaceful future.” In 2024, the company announced plans to build four manufacturing plants in Ukraine.
The broader European defense sector has been expanding at roughly three times its pre-2022 pace, Financial Times reported in August. Western leaders claim the accelerated buildup is needed to meet NATO readiness targets, maintain arms deliveries to Kiev, and deter what they describe as a potential Russian threat.
READ MORE: German militarization wish list to cost nearly €400bn – Politico
Moscow has called such claims “absurd” fearmongering aimed at justifying increased military spending and condemned what it calls the West’s “reckless militarization.”

 

[Wolf]

LOL......The EU is a joke.

EU’s humiliation in Geneva: no influence, no voice, no plan​

The US has secured control of Ukraine peace process with Western Europe pushed out of the room
By Sergey Strokan, columnist and political analyst

Vladimir Zelensky’s chief of staff Andrey Yermak, center, at the beginning of talks with the US delegation at the US Mission to International Organizations in Geneva, Switzerland, November 23, 2025. © Martial Trezzini / Keystone via AP


This weekend’s emergency consultations in Geneva between senior officials from the United States, Ukraine and handful of European NATO states were convened after President Donald Trump’s peace plan burst into the open. The meeting was supposed to clarify the roadmap for a settlement in Ukraine. Instead, it preserved the intrigue and the deliberate “strategic ambiguity” that now surrounds Washington’s approach.
The final statement issued by Washington and Kiev was remarkably vague. It offered only a general commitment to building a “lasting and just peace” in Ukraine, without saying whose definition of justice or whose version of peace would prevail. And while Kiev and its Western European backers had loudly objected to key elements of Trump’s 28-point proposal, it’s still unclear whether the document was meaningfully amended at all. Even so, several conclusions from Geneva are already visible.
First, the main winner was the American delegation. Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Special Representative Steven Witkoff set the tone of the meeting, and Rubio’s insistence that “there is only one peace plan, not two” became the defining line of the day. Only 24 hours earlier, both Kiev and European capitals were buzzing about an alternative scheme supposedly being rushed to Switzerland. French President Emmanuel Macron warned that Trump’s document included provisions directly affecting all of Europe – frozen Russian assets, Ukraine’s EU prospects, NATO activities – and therefore required broader agreement.

Yet none of this resulted in real changes. Whatever Western European leaders hoped to insert, nothing of substance appears to have made it into the negotiations. Trump’s peace plan did not become, and will not become, a joint American–EU project.
The second conclusion follows from the first: Britain, France and Germany were sidelined. The Geneva meeting was officially trilateral, yet the final outcome was a bilateral US–Ukrainian statement. Western European officials, present in the room, vanished from the document. That omission is not an accident, it’s a clear sign of who holds leverage and who does not.
Third, Ukraine itself emerged as the other loser of the day. According to the White House, Kiev has now agreed that Trump’s draft “reflects its national interests” and provides “reliable and feasible mechanisms” for Ukraine’s security. That is a dramatic reversal from President Zelensky’s address the previous evening, in which he accused his “main partner” of trying to deprive Ukraine of its dignity and promised to resist. Geneva shows how little of that rhetoric survived contact with reality.
Trump’s plan, dismissed at first as a political “fog,” is beginning to solidify into the framework for future agreements. Whether Kiev or its Western European backers like it or not, Washington is setting the terms, and everyone else is learning to live with them.