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Clanrickard said:
This is utter bullshit. I know Poland well and I can verify having been there two weeks ago this is crap. You are a bullshitter of the highest order.
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Your really keen on killing the youth of eastern Europe you demented ghoul!
 
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SeekTheFairLand said:

Putin is finished. The Ukrainians have him on the ropes with a stunning victory in their sights​

In 72 hours, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have retaken over 2,500 sq km of Russian-occupied Ukraine

ByMike Martin11 September 2022 • 9:45am

Vladimir Putin may at last be glimpsing victory​

If the conflict turns into a bloody stalemate, the West could go wobbly on their erstwhile Ukrainian allies
CON COUGHLIN13 April 2023 • 7:00am

Putin’s sudden capitulation is a real prospect​

With military defeat finally sinking in, the Russian president’s appetite for battle has begun to wane
CON COUGHLIN
DEFENCE EDITOR
15 December 2022 • 7:00am

In defeat, Vladimir Putin is becoming desperate​

It is likely that in the mess of war there will be more accidents. That is why the Russians must be beaten
MICHAEL FALLON17 November 2022 • 6:00am

Winter won't save Putin. It may end him​

Freezing conditions, long believed to favour the Russians, are more likely to spell doom for his army
RICHARD KEMP22 November 2022 • 6:13pm

Beyond empty threats, Putin has nothing left​

The Russian president may brandish nuclear weapons, but he has no exclusive control over them
CON COUGHLIN
DEFENCE EDITOR
22 September 2022 • 7:00am

Vladimir Putin’s total defeat is now within reach​

Liz Truss and her Foreign Secretary will have to work hard to maintain Western unity in coming months
CON COUGHLIN
DEFENCE EDITOR
8 September 2022 • 6:00am

The cold snap has brought total economic defeat for Putin​

Putin played the energy card, it has failed and now he can't play it again
MATTHEW LYNN16 December 2022 • 3:13pm

Russia is losing, and it will be defeated if Nato keeps its resolve​

Joe Biden and Boris Johnson have been steadfast in support of Poland. Together we can stop today's crisis becoming a global catastrophe
PIOTR WILCZEK4 July 2022 • 1:47pm

If the West holds its nerve, Putin could be heading towards defeat​

Ukraine's army is pushing back the Russian invaders, but countries such as Germany must not now give in to the Kremlin's energy blackmail
TELEGRAPH VIEW13 September 2022 • 6:00am

Humiliated Russia faces an epoch-defining defeat​

The invasion of Ukraine isn’t a fiasco on the same scale as the Soviet assault on Afghanistan. It’s worse
CON COUGHLIN
DEFENCE EDITOR
5 May 2022 • 6:00am

Putin is fighting an impossible war and there's no escape​

Russia is in thrall to myths of military invincibility, just as Germany was in the 1930s
ROBERT TOMBS23 October 2022 • 11:00am

Vladimir Putin can still turn defeat into victory. It's time for us to rethink our strategy​

Success for Russia would threaten the freedom of Europe. We need to make some tough choices now
TOM TUGENDHAT27 April 2022 • 5:28pm

The West has gambled everything to defeat Putin – and it's paying off​

Its striking appetite for risk has forced geopolitical rivals around the world to rethink their assumptions
SHERELLE JACOBS11 April 2022 • 9:30pm

The West is beating Russia at its own game​

British and American intelligence agencies have denied Putin control of the narrative
CON COUGHLIN
DEFENCE EDITOR
3 April 2022 • 6:00am
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Ah the good old Telegraph cut and paste article collage.
 
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Interesting to note the leaked documents showing the Ukrainians had plans to attack civilian infrastructure in Hungary. Sort of diminishes their whole yapping about being attacked by their neighbours. Also curious that Hungary happens to be the EU state that doesnt behave how the US and EU want. So in effect the UkrainianFascists are only picking up where the IslamoFascists left off...being the proxy terrorists of the EU&USA. Reassuring that we have 73,000 of them living in our midst.
 
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valamhic said:
I was talking to a lad to day who does work for me and he employed Ukrainians some of whom went back to fight Russia. He said a Ukrainian source told one of his workers that Britian had supplied a huge amount of enriched Uranium bombs tpo Ukraine and they stored them in a silo building. The Russians hit it with several bombs and
now the whole area is contaminated. It is into Poland. I am just posting it, don' know if true
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yes, this attack has been discussed all over the weekend
 
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I am going on record to say the war will be over in a month and Russia will be left with 2 of the 4 provinces they claim.

They will retreat somewhat maybe but they will have won.
 
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Declan said:
I am going on record to say the war will be over in a month and Russia will be left with 2 of the 4 provinces they claim.

They will retreat somewhat maybe but they will have won.
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Oh I dunno, I'd say they are dug in where they are, will take a little more but certainly won't be backing down.

I get the impression they are just waiting for Zelensky's/NATO's stockpile of bang bangs to be more fully exhausted. Taking out the latest munitions delivery from the UK suggests that they know how much is left and where it is. The rest is probably more widely dispersed making it difficult to take out with long range missiles, so they will wait until it is brought to front which is a logistics exercise vulnerable to attack.

If the great spring offensive fails to materialise in any meaningful way then the world will know that Russia has got its way and the west has lost.
 
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Declan said:
I am going on record to say the war will be over in a month and Russia will be left with 2 of the 4 provinces they claim.

They will retreat somewhat maybe but they will have won.
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Unlikely, they have still to take Odessa. Destruction of bridges from Moldova recently indicates that Odessa is part of the plan. 400,000 Russkie soldiers suggests that an offensive from Kherson towards Odessa is coming. Interestingly Poland, who some on here suggest are gagging to get involved in the war, are now telling Elenskii that he should resign.
 
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M1A2 said:
Well since Putin delared them as annexed, losing some of them can't be seen as a "victory".

But some of it is far more important that others. Crimea is far more important to Russia than Donbass.

If Sevastopol is brought under missile and HIMARS range, the war will enter its most dangerous phase. Above all else, its been Russian policy for centuries to secure warm water ports - and losing the naval facilities in Crimea would be......well, it could prompt Putin to go down the NBC route. And I wonder if his regime is ready to carry out that particular order.

Certainly much of the current Russian gains on Ukrainian soil will be irreparably lost by Russia by the time the leaves fall.
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Oh? is the Spring Offensive now an Autumn offensive?
 
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M1A2 said:
Well since Putin delared them as annexed, losing some of them can't be seen as a "victory".

But some of it is far more important that others. Crimea is far more important to Russia than Donbass.

If Sevastopol is brought under missile and HIMARS range, the war will enter its most dangerous phase. Above all else, its been Russian policy for centuries to secure warm water ports - and losing the naval facilities in Crimea would be......well, it could prompt Putin to go down the NBC route. And I wonder if his regime is ready to carry out that particular order.

Certainly much of the current Russian gains on Ukrainian soil will be irreparably lost by Russia by the time the leaves fall.
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I dont think anyone expects Crimea to go to Ukraine.

I expect Luganks and Donetz or whatever the spelling is to be Russian and a land bridge to Crimea.

Otherwise Ukraine will be just drained of men and money and will be wiped out.

Done by June 17th.
 
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The Military Summary channel on YT is claiming that Bahkmut has finally fallen today, although Ukie forces have managed to regain some ground to the south west of the city.
 
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maxflinn said:
MacGregor said the Neocons/Globalists in the US, UK, France and Germany want to see BlackRock take control of Ukraine so it can make a fortune from its natural resources.
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Blackrock is the new vampire squid, politicians love the smell of money and with the company managing 10 trillions worth of assets it will carry some clout.
 
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M1A2 said:
What about all the 100s of thousands of Russian men that fled conscription? Should we take some of these too?
Maybe the highly skilled ones? A lot of IT people have left.
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Conscription in Russia is a hangover from the soviet days and lasts just a single year, so it is nothing new. Over the last couple of years Putin has widened the scope of those who may be conscripted but there has been no mass involuntary recruitment, quite unlike the Ukraine.
 
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M1A2 said:
Well, not the ones who conscientiously left the country to avoid call up.
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But would they have been called up? As noted, they were likely to have done a years military service already and there will be a large reserve of youth awaiting conscription, so what was the the risk of being called up? And even if they were pressed into frontline service they are at least seven times less likely to die than their Ukrainian opponents for Wagner, a voluntary force, do try to minimise casualties rather than throw bodies at guns.

What sort of numbers fled anyway?
 
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maxflinn said:
RTE now reporting as fact that Ukraine shot down 29 out of 30 cruise missiles fired by Russia last night😀

RTE news : Ukraine: One killed in Odesa, missiles downed over Kyiv

www.rte.ie

Wagner and Ukraine: Russian forces in Bakhmut retreat

The Ukrainian military and Russia's Wagner private army have both reported further Russian retreats around the city of Bakhmut, as Kyiv pressed on with its biggest advance for six months ahead of a planned counteroffensive.
www.rte.ie www.rte.ie
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Good, it just accelerates the loss of faith in RTE generally.
 
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M1A2 said:
And it looks like that Patriot system was only slightly damaged and is back in service.

I don't get why anyone thinks such and such weapons system is unbeatable. A counter will always be established. Hypersonics isn't even new. The US had Sprint missiles in the 70s.
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The number of intercepted Ukrainian missiles is “three times the number we launched,” according to the Russian defence Minister Sergei Shoigu.

“And they always get the type of missiles wrong. That’s why they don’t give them, “he said, without elaborating.


Home - MilitaryView

militaryview.com militaryview.com
 
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maxflinn said:
RTE now reporting as fact that Ukraine shot down 29 out of 30 cruise missiles fired by Russia last night😀

RTE news : Ukraine: One killed in Odesa, missiles downed over Kyiv

www.rte.ie

Wagner and Ukraine: Russian forces in Bakhmut retreat

The Ukrainian military and Russia's Wagner private army have both reported further Russian retreats around the city of Bakhmut, as Kyiv pressed on with its biggest advance for six months ahead of a planned counteroffensive.
www.rte.ie www.rte.ie
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Ukraine's air defences are 'safe and effective'
Please buy some American Pfize... sorry... Patriot systems.
 
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M1A2 said:

View: https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1659197340111220738?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


www.reuters.com

Russian forces in retreat near Bakhmut, Ukraine and Wagner say

The Ukrainian military and Russia's Wagner private army both reported further Russian retreats around the city of Bakhmut on Thursday, as Kyiv pressed on with its biggest advance for six months ahead of a planned counteroffensive.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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Let's think about this for a wee minute shall we....

300m in 16 minutes suggests that the Russians let them have the ground. Now why would they do that? Maybe to create two more meatgrinders salients,with the captured city of Bahkmut in the centre of them.
 

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