Ukraine.

Wolf said:
The fascists in the EU should keep their noses out of non-EU countries business.

EU defies Trump’s Ukraine peace deal​

Brussels has put forward its own conditions for an end to hostilities
EU defies Trump’s Ukraine peace deal

FILE PHOTO: the EU Commission head, Ursula von der Leyen. © Global Look Press / Michael Kappeler


The EU has reportedly rejected the Ukraine peace deal drafted by the White House, putting forward its own set of conditions for a potential agreement.
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen made the announcement on Sunday as US officials were discussing Washington’s proposal with EU and Ukrainian representatives in Geneva, Switzerland.
The US had submitted its plan to both Moscow and Kiev earlier this week. The contents of the document have not been officially disclosed to the public.
Media outlets have claimed that, among other things, it calls upon Kiev to withdraw troops from the part of Russia’s Donbass it still controls, downsize its military, and shelve its NATO aspirations in exchange for Western security guarantees.
In a statement published on X, von der Leyen specifically rejected all those conditions. “We have agreed on the main elements necessary for a just and lasting peace and Ukraine's sovereignty,” she stated, adding that Ukraine’s borders cannot be changed “by force” and that no limitations can be placed on Kiev’s military.

The European Commission president also demanded that the EU play a central role “in securing peace for Ukraine” and that Kiev be allowed to join it.
On Saturday, Bloomberg reported that the EU was seeking to essentially rewrite the US plan by disguising major changes to it as “constructive updates.” The bloc was also reportedly trying to “buy Ukraine more time” and postpone the American deadline.
Trump had said earlier that Kiev has to accept the proposal by Thursday, November 27. Vladimir Zelensky said on Friday that Ukraine was facing a choice between accepting “28 difficult points” or the risk of losing its “key partner” and enduring a “hard winter.”
Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed that Moscow had received the American plan, adding that it could serve as “the basis of a final peace settlement” but has yet to be discussed “in detail.”
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Wow so that's put the wind up the Russians.
So what will they do?
It's an irrelevance.
Led by an unelectable incompetent.
 
The sanctions have done what they were supposed to do, impoverish millions of EU citizens.

EU sanctions against Russia have ‘failed’ – US Treasury secretary​

If something is done 19 times in a row with no success, that means it is not working, Scott Bessent has said
EU sanctions against Russia have ‘failed’ – US Treasury secretary

FILE PHOTO: US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent. © Global Look Press / Yuri Gripas

EU sanctions against Russia

over the Ukraine conflict are ineffective, US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told NBC News on Sunday. He also criticized the bloc for pursuing the same strategy 19 times in a row and claimed EU officials were essentially “funding the war on themselves.”
Last month, Brussels introduced its 19th package of sanctions against Russia, targeting banks, crypto exchanges, and Indian and Chinese businesses, as well as Moscow’s diplomats.
Russia has repeatedly called Western attempts to put pressure on it in a bid to support Ukraine’s war effort futile and self-destructive. The strategy also caused rifts within the bloc itself, with dissenting nations, including Hungary and Slovakia, urging Brussels to reconsider its approach and engage in diplomacy instead.
According to Bessent, the US has combined its peace initiatives with “pressure” on Moscow. The EU nations were “the real laggards” in this regard, he said, recalling how the bloc’s officials informed him about their plans to introduce the latest round of anti-Russian sanctions.
In my mind… if you’re going to do something 19 times, you’ve failed.
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Bessent also criticized the EU for its reluctance to follow the US tariff strategy on China and India and buying their products made of Russian oil. President Donald Trump had been pressuring European NATO members to hit Beijing with sweeping trade tariffs, citing its continued purchases of energy via Siberia. The current US administration is engaged in what he called a “trade war” against China.

Washington also slapped India with 50% tariffs over its purchases of Russian oil. New Delhi denounced the move as “unfair, unjustified and unreasonable.”
Earlier this week, US Vice President J.D. Vance also criticized the EU approach towards the Ukraine conflict by calling Brussels’ expectations unrealistic. “There is a fantasy that if we just give more money, more weapons, or more sanctions, victory is at hand,” he said.
In mid-November, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio admitted that America was “running out of things to sanction” in Russia after Washington blacklisted oil giants Lukoil and Rosneft in a move he said was made at the request of Kiev and its backers.
 
Why Russia has to have a deal now.

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Russia’s Battlefield Woes in Ukraine

Russia has performed poorly on the battlefield in Ukraine and will likely hit the 1 million casualty mark in the summer of 2025. New CSIS data details Russia's slow rate of advance, heavy losses of equipment, and significant casualties.
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First, Russian forces have advanced an average of only 50 meters per day in such areas as Kharkiv, slower than during the Somme offensive in World War I, where French and British forces advanced an average of 80 meters per day. Russian rates of advance have also been significantly slower than during such offensives as Galicia in 1914 (1,580 meters per day), Gorzia in 1916 (500 meters), Belleau Wood in 1918 (410 meters), Leningrad in 1943 (1,000 meters), and Kursk-Oboyan in 1943 (3,220 meters). Even Russia’s rate of advance in parts of Donetsk Oblast, averaging 135 meters per day, has been remarkably slow.

Second, Russia’s seizure of approximately 5,000 square kilometers of territory in Ukraine since January 2024 has been paltry—amounting to less than 1 percent of Ukrainian territory—and has occurred mainly in Donetsk, Luhansk, and Kharkiv Oblasts. Russia’s marginal gains are particularly noteworthy compared to its conquest of 120,000 square kilometers during the first five weeks of the war and Ukraine’s recapture of 50,000 square kilometers in the spring of 2022.

Third, Russia has lost substantial quantities of equipment across the land, air, and sea domains, highlighting the sharp matériel toll of its attrition campaign. Since January 2024, for example, Russia has lost roughly 1,149 armored fighting vehicles, 3,098 infantry fighting vehicles, 300 self-propelled artillery, and 1,865 tanks. Even more noteworthy, Russian equipment losses have been significantly higher than Ukrainian losses, varying between a ratio of 5:1 and 2:1 in Ukraine’s favor.

Fourth, Russian fatalities and casualties have been extraordinary. Russia will likely hit the 1 million casualty mark in the summer of 2025—a stunning and grisly milestone. Overall, a high of 250,000 Russian soldiers have died in Ukraine, with over 950,000 total Russian casualties, a sign of Putin’s blatant disregard for his soldiers. To put these numbers into historical perspective, Russia has suffered roughly five times as many fatalities in Ukraine as in all Russian and Soviet wars combined between the end of World War II and the start of the full-scale invasion in February 2022. In addition, Russian fatalities in Ukraine (in just over three years) are 15 times larger than the Soviet Union’s decade-long war in Afghanistan and 10 times larger than Russia’s 13 years of war in Chechnya.6

And then, this.

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The Slow Death of Russian Oil

Why Ukraine’s campaign against Moscow’s energy sector is working.
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clarke-connolly said:
Haven = = Why don't you go to the Front-Line and fight the Russians ? !

Sarsfields may even sponsor a one way flight for you !
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Yea, there'd be plenty of dirty boots to be licked at the frontline alright.
Chap is made for it.
He could bring Snitch with him too. (y)
 
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Facts.

Ukrainian victory over Russia a ‘fantasy’ – Vance​

Only “smart people living in the real world” could stop the fighting between Moscow and Kiev, the US vice president has said

Ukrainian victory over Russia a ‘fantasy’ – Vance

FILE PHOTO: US Vice President J.D. Vance speaking to journalists. © Getty Images / Tasos Katopodis


US Vice President J.D. Vance has defended Washington’s plan for settling the Ukraine conflict, arguing that its opponents are wrong to think that increasing pressure on Russia could change the situation on the battlefield.
On Friday, former Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell claimed on X that the proposal, which the administration of US President Donald Trump submitted to both Moscow and Kiev earlier this week, was a “capitulation” and “disastrous” to American interests.
Senator Jeanne Shaheen, the most senior Democrat on the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, told CNN that “this is a [Russian President Vladimir] Putin plan for Ukraine,” insisting that the White House should instead ramp up secondary sanctions against Russia’s trading partners and supply Ukraine with long-range weapons.
Vance wrote in a post on X on Saturday that “every criticism of the peace framework the administration is working on either misunderstands the framework or misstates some critical reality on the ground.”

“There is a fantasy that if we just give more money, more weapons, or more sanctions, victory is at hand,” he wrote.
According to the vice president, peace between Moscow and Kiev could be achieved by “smart people living in the real world,” but not by “failed diplomats or politicians living in a fantasy land.”
The US plan has not been officially disclosed, but media reports have claimed that, among other things, it calls upon Kiev to withdraw troops from the parts of Russia’s Donbass it still controls, downsize its military, and give up on NATO aspirations in exchange for Western security guarantees.
Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky claimed on Friday that his country is now forced to choose between accepting the “28 difficult points” in the proposal or the risk of losing its key backer, the US.
Trump insisted later that the Ukrainian leader “will have to like” the US plan or face the prospect of fighting Russia through the “cold winter.” According to Financial Times, Washington has issued an ultimatum to Kiev to accept its roadmap by Thursday.
READ MORE: Trump envoy issues ultimatum to Ukraine – FT
Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that the US plan has not yet been discussed “in detail,” but suggested that it could eventually “form the basis of a final peace settlement.”
 
clarke-connolly said:
Haven = = Why don't you go to the Front-Line and fight the Russians ? !

Sarsfields may even sponsor a one way flight for you !
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Im sure the Russians would love to grab a few of the lads here - you get a signing bonus and a free one way trip to the front.
 
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Im sure the Russians would love to grab a few of the lads here - you get a signing bonus and a free one way trip to the front.
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Haven't you got some boots to lick?
Run along there, little boy. (y)
 
Always follow the money.
The scum will always be there. :cool:

Arms industry investors in panic over Ukraine peace talks​

Shares of weapons giant Rheinmetall have slumped after Washington proposed terms to Kiev to end hostilities
Arms industry investors in panic over Ukraine peace talks

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The prospect of a possible peace in Ukraine has caused “panic” among investors in the German defence industry, sending stocks of arms manufacturers such as Rheinmetall tumbling.
The US reportedly handed Kiev a 28-point peace proposal last week and gave it until Thursday to respond. The framework was discussed in Geneva on Sunday, with US President Donald Trump saying afterwards that “something good” may be happening.
The peace push immediately unnerved investors, triggering a fierce sell-off of shares in Rheinmetall, Germany’s largest arms manufacturer and a key supplier of military equipment to Kiev. Rheinmetall stock has fallen by over 14% over the past five days, with defense-electronics producer Hensoldt recording a similar drop.
“Investors fear that an end to hostilities could also mean the end of the “super-cycle” for defense stocks,” Boerse-Express wrote.

Germany has become Kiev’s second-largest arms provider after the US, and Rheinmetall, which produces tanks, artillery systems, and ammunition, recently reported surging profits for the first nine months of 2025, alongside a record order backlog driven by the conflict and rising EU military budgets. Company shares have climbed nearly 2,000% since fighting escalated almost four years ago.
During the previous US attempt to broker peace in February, Rheinmetall CEO Armin Papperger argued that even if the fighting were to end, it would be “wrong” for Europe to assume “a peaceful future.” In 2024, the company announced plans to build four manufacturing plants in Ukraine.
The broader European defense sector has been expanding at roughly three times its pre-2022 pace, Financial Times reported in August. Western leaders claim the accelerated buildup is needed to meet NATO readiness targets, maintain arms deliveries to Kiev, and deter what they describe as a potential Russian threat.
READ MORE: German militarization wish list to cost nearly €400bn – Politico
Moscow has called such claims “absurd” fearmongering aimed at justifying increased military spending and condemned what it calls the West’s “reckless militarization.”
 
LOL......The EU is a joke. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:


EU’s humiliation in Geneva: no influence, no voice, no plan​

The US has secured control of Ukraine peace process with Western Europe pushed out of the room
By Sergey Strokan, columnist and political analyst
EU’s humiliation in Geneva: no influence, no voice, no plan

Vladimir Zelensky’s chief of staff Andrey Yermak, center, at the beginning of talks with the US delegation at the US Mission to International Organizations in Geneva, Switzerland, November 23, 2025. © Martial Trezzini / Keystone via AP


This weekend’s emergency consultations in Geneva between senior officials from the United States, Ukraine and handful of European NATO states were convened after President Donald Trump’s peace plan burst into the open. The meeting was supposed to clarify the roadmap for a settlement in Ukraine. Instead, it preserved the intrigue and the deliberate “strategic ambiguity” that now surrounds Washington’s approach.
The final statement issued by Washington and Kiev was remarkably vague. It offered only a general commitment to building a “lasting and just peace” in Ukraine, without saying whose definition of justice or whose version of peace would prevail. And while Kiev and its Western European backers had loudly objected to key elements of Trump’s 28-point proposal, it’s still unclear whether the document was meaningfully amended at all. Even so, several conclusions from Geneva are already visible.
First, the main winner was the American delegation. Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Special Representative Steven Witkoff set the tone of the meeting, and Rubio’s insistence that “there is only one peace plan, not two” became the defining line of the day. Only 24 hours earlier, both Kiev and European capitals were buzzing about an alternative scheme supposedly being rushed to Switzerland. French President Emmanuel Macron warned that Trump’s document included provisions directly affecting all of Europe – frozen Russian assets, Ukraine’s EU prospects, NATO activities – and therefore required broader agreement.

Yet none of this resulted in real changes. Whatever Western European leaders hoped to insert, nothing of substance appears to have made it into the negotiations. Trump’s peace plan did not become, and will not become, a joint American–EU project.
The second conclusion follows from the first: Britain, France and Germany were sidelined. The Geneva meeting was officially trilateral, yet the final outcome was a bilateral US–Ukrainian statement. Western European officials, present in the room, vanished from the document. That omission is not an accident, it’s a clear sign of who holds leverage and who does not.
Third, Ukraine itself emerged as the other loser of the day. According to the White House, Kiev has now agreed that Trump’s draft “reflects its national interests” and provides “reliable and feasible mechanisms” for Ukraine’s security. That is a dramatic reversal from President Zelensky’s address the previous evening, in which he accused his “main partner” of trying to deprive Ukraine of its dignity and promised to resist. Geneva shows how little of that rhetoric survived contact with reality.
Trump’s plan, dismissed at first as a political “fog,” is beginning to solidify into the framework for future agreements. Whether Kiev or its Western European backers like it or not, Washington is setting the terms, and everyone else is learning to live with them.
 
Haven said:
Some comical backpedaling going on.


"U.S. lawmakers attempted Saturday to reverse days of confusion around a leaked peace plan for Ukraine, saying Secretary of State Marco Rubio assured them the document does not represent the Trump administration’s position.

Rubio called the bipartisan delegation to the Halifax International Security Forum on Saturday afternoon, they said, while en route to Geneva for talks with Ukrainian officials. He described the plan as a Russian proposal, they said, and not a U.S. initiative."

Thats pretty obvious:

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Trump’s Ukraine Peace Deal Appears to Be Translated From Russian

Certain phrases in Trump’s proposed deal seem to be using Russian language.
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This plan is DOA anyway.

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Ukraine’s allies rush to counter Trump’s ‘non-starter’ peace plan

Top British and European officials will join high-level talks between the U.S. and Ukraine starting Sunday, after Kyiv’s allies voiced concern at Trump’s proposed deal.
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As predicted.
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Europe lays down red lines on Ukraine in rebuke to Trump plan

Allowing Russia to change borders by force or to veto Kyiv’s future membership in the EU are red lines, Brussels warns.
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Trump administration's proposed Ukraine-Russia peace plan now 19 points: Ukrainian official

The initial 28-point peace plan now has 19 points, according to the official. It is unclear what points were removed.
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I am starting to think it was leaked to embarrass the Russians. Which either might get them to compromise or dig their heels in further.

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The Ukraine ‘peace plan’ distracts from the real issue: why Russia’s desperate to keep fighting

Say what you will about President Trump’s methods, but his wish to end Russia’s war is genuine. The problem is Moscow doesn’t want peace in Ukraine, it wants Ukraine in pieces. Every time the White…
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The translation from Russian must have been a deliberate ploy to embarrass Putin, though this is the same administration that left negotiaion papers in a hotel photocopier during the Alaska summit.

Haven said:
The longer the war goes on, the weaker and poorer Russia gets. In the cold light of day, thats probably the calculation thats been made here.
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I think Putin needs to end the war now. He will have to compromise or it will get worse.

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How Long Can Russia’s Weakening Economy Support Putin’s War on Ukraine?

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Follow the money....again.

UK planning smear campaign against Trump – Russian intelligence​

London is counting on arms contracts fueling the Ukraine conflict and won’t let the US just put and end to it, the SVR has warned
UK planning smear campaign against Trump – Russian intelligence

US President Donald Trump, Washington, DC, November 17, 2025. © Win McNamee / Getty Images


Britain is preparing a smear campaign aimed at damaging US President Donald Trump’s reputation in order to derail his efforts to end the Ukraine conflict, Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) claimed on Tuesday.
According to the agency, London views the continuation of hostilities as vital to securing multi-billion-dollar weapons contracts that could help revive the struggling British economy. Undermining Trump, who is pushing to end the conflict, would dissuade Washington and protect the UK’s “blood money” profits, the SVR alleged.
“Plans have been concocted to revive former British intelligence officer [Christopher] Steele’s fake ‘dossier’, accusing the head of the White House and his family of having links to Soviet and Russian intelligence services,” the statement claimed.
That document, penned by Steele, a former MI6 officer, in 2016 and reportedly paid for by Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, relied on unverified rumors alleging that Trump and members of his family had compromising ties with Moscow.

Although widely used to fuel the ‘Russiagate’ narrative early in Trump’s first presidency, the dossier has since been debunked. The SVR suggested that British operatives may craft a new iteration inspired by the original template rather than attempt to reuse it directly.
Trump’s administration has drafted a proposal for ending the Ukraine conflict. However, Kiev and several European governments strongly oppose it due to its reportedly demanding major concessions from Ukraine. Vladimir Zelensky claimed this week that US diplomats had already removed some of the 28 provisions at his government’s request.
Moscow has kept its distance from the American initiative. President Vladimir Putin reiterated that Russia’s military position continues to strengthen and that Moscow intends to achieve its security objectives regardless of whether Kiev accepts Washington’s mediation.
 

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"on Sunday the White House said Ukraine’s key concerns, including security guarantees, were “thoroughly addressed” after “revision and clarifications” were made to the proposal with input from US, Ukrainian and European officials in Geneva over the weekend."

Russia already knows its not getting what it wants.

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"on Sunday the White House said Ukraine’s key concerns, including security guarantees, were “thoroughly addressed” after “revision and clarifications” were made to the proposal with input from US, Ukrainian and European officials in Geneva over the weekend."

Russia already knows its not getting what it wants.

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LOL, you really are such a fucking idiot troll, Pervert.
Hilarious altogether.
Within two weeks, eh?:ROFLMAO:

You'll give up on Zitler the same way you gave up on the CoVidian Cult!! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Absolutely 100% correct.:)


Ukrainian corruption schemes could have beneficiaries in EU – Lavrov​

It is hard to explain why the bloc keeps funneling money to Kiev despite all the scandals, the Russian foreign minister has said
Ukrainian corruption schemes could have beneficiaries in EU – Lavrov

FILE PHOTO: Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. © Sputnik / Sergey Guneev


People in the EU could be benefitting from corruption in Ukraine, otherwise it’s difficult to explain the bloc’s determination to continue funding Kiev despite repeated graft and embezzling scandals, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said in an interview published on Tuesday.
Brussels is seeking to “scrape” together €135 billion ($156 billion) to prop up Kiev through 2026 and 2027 either through direct money transfer from the member states’ budgets, joint borrowing or seizing frozen Russian assets. Moscow has repeatedly warned that the third option would essentially amount to theft of its sovereign funds.
“It was recently discovered that yet another $100 million were spent on bribes to the corrupt officials,” Lavrov told the French-Russian dialogue association. “Did anyone from the Brussels bureaucrats or from those nations that pump Ukraine full of money explain it to their taxpayers that they have to endure and suffer? Maybe, there are some beneficiaries as well. I rule out nothing.”

The EU has not changed its plans even in light of a recent major graft scandal that rocked Ukraine. Earlier this month, Ukraine’s anti-corruption bodies revealed that a close associate and a former long-time business partner of Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky ran a $100 million kickback scheme in the energy sector, which heavily depends on Western aid.
Just a day after news of the scandal broke, Germany announced that it would provide Ukraine with an additional €40 million ($46.22 million) to support its energy industry that was at the center of the controversy.
It was not the first high-profile corruption scandal in Ukraine. In 2023, then Defense Minister Aleksey Reznikov resigned after local media exposed inflated food procurement contracts at his ministry. In 2024, the State Audit Service found large-scale violations in reconstruction projects financed by Western aid.
Moscow warned in the wake of the latest scandal that a “many-headed bloody hydra” of Ukrainian corruption was stretching beyond the national borders and draining Western taxpayers’ money.
 
Wolf said:
Follow the money....again.

UK planning smear campaign against Trump – Russian intelligence​

London is counting on arms contracts fueling the Ukraine conflict and won’t let the US just put and end to it, the SVR has warned
UK planning smear campaign against Trump – Russian intelligence

US President Donald Trump, Washington, DC, November 17, 2025. © Win McNamee / Getty Images


Britain is preparing a smear campaign aimed at damaging US President Donald Trump’s reputation in order to derail his efforts to end the Ukraine conflict, Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) claimed on Tuesday.
According to the agency, London views the continuation of hostilities as vital to securing multi-billion-dollar weapons contracts that could help revive the struggling British economy. Undermining Trump, who is pushing to end the conflict, would dissuade Washington and protect the UK’s “blood money” profits, the SVR alleged.
“Plans have been concocted to revive former British intelligence officer [Christopher] Steele’s fake ‘dossier’, accusing the head of the White House and his family of having links to Soviet and Russian intelligence services,” the statement claimed.
That document, penned by Steele, a former MI6 officer, in 2016 and reportedly paid for by Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, relied on unverified rumors alleging that Trump and members of his family had compromising ties with Moscow.

Although widely used to fuel the ‘Russiagate’ narrative early in Trump’s first presidency, the dossier has since been debunked. The SVR suggested that British operatives may craft a new iteration inspired by the original template rather than attempt to reuse it directly.
Trump’s administration has drafted a proposal for ending the Ukraine conflict. However, Kiev and several European governments strongly oppose it due to its reportedly demanding major concessions from Ukraine. Vladimir Zelensky claimed this week that US diplomats had already removed some of the 28 provisions at his government’s request.
Moscow has kept its distance from the American initiative. President Vladimir Putin reiterated that Russia’s military position continues to strengthen and that Moscow intends to achieve its security objectives regardless of whether Kiev accepts Washington’s mediation.
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Sounds about right for the UK slimeballs
 
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Why dont we go establiish its oldest borders then?

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The fact is when the USSR dissolved and Ukraine became an independent country, its borders were internationally recognised, and Russia signed a document stating that they " Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders (in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act)".

The Budapest memorandum that Russia signed also confirmed to respect the borders of Ukraine as they were, and to respect Ukrainian sovereignty within those borders. Remember that Ukraine gave up its nukes in return for these assurances. Its not Ukraine thats been constantly threatening nuclear war. Ukraine didnt even start this war.

Pre-1991, in the same way that Ukraine grew and changed in territory, so did Russia.

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Some of this territory went independent in 1991, why not break up all of it? China should demand its 1858 border reestablished, etc.

So I'm really not sure what argument your map is trying to make.
 
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US warns Ukraine of ‘imminent defeat’ – NBC​

Army Secretary Dan Driscoll has reportedly pressed Kiev to accept a peace deal before it’s too late
US warns Ukraine of ‘imminent defeat’ – NBC

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A senior US military official has warned that Ukraine faces “imminent defeat” on the battlefield and urged Kiev to accept a US-drafted peace deal before its position deteriorates further, NBC News reported on Tuesday, citing people briefed on the talks.
The initial version of the 28-point draft plan would reportedly require Ukraine to relinquish the parts of the new Russian regions in Donbass still under its control, freeze the front lines in Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, and cap the size of its army.
In a meeting with Ukrainian officials in Kiev last week, US Army Secretary Dan Driscoll told his counterparts that their troops “faced a dire situation on the battlefield and would suffer an imminent defeat against Russian forces,” NBC reported, citing two sources.
The Russian military has been on the offensive in recent months in Donbass and elsewhere, with Ukrainian officials complaining of a lack of manpower.


Driscoll went on to say that Russia is increasing the scale and pace of its air attacks and can “fight on indefinitely,” and warned that US industry cannot keep supplying weapons and air defenses at the required rate, NBC said.
“The message was basically – you are losing, and you need to accept the deal,” the network’s source said.
According to NBC, Kiev refused to sign the deal, which has since been amended. Several media reports also suggest that Driscoll held “secret talks” with the Russian delegation in Abu Dhabi on Monday and Tuesday.
NBC described the talks between Driscoll and Ukrainian officials as a sign of a long-running rift in the Trump administration between Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
While Vance’s camp is seeking to push Kiev to compromise and see it “as the primary obstacle to peace,” supporters of Rubio believe that the Ukraine conflict could be settled by pressuring Russia, the network said. Vance and Rubio have denied being at odds over Ukraine.
Russia has said it remains in contact with Washington and has received the broad outlines of the plan, but said it will not “engage in megaphone diplomacy,” which could jeopardize the peace efforts.
 
Wolf said:
LOL....Within two weeks me bollix....... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

US warns Ukraine of ‘imminent defeat’ – NBC​

Army Secretary Dan Driscoll has reportedly pressed Kiev to accept a peace deal before it’s too late
US warns Ukraine of ‘imminent defeat’ – NBC

RT composite. © Getty Images / Scott Peterson; Richard Burkhart/ Savannah Morning News / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images/Sipa USA / Legion-Media


A senior US military official has warned that Ukraine faces “imminent defeat” on the battlefield and urged Kiev to accept a US-drafted peace deal before its position deteriorates further, NBC News reported on Tuesday, citing people briefed on the talks.
The initial version of the 28-point draft plan would reportedly require Ukraine to relinquish the parts of the new Russian regions in Donbass still under its control, freeze the front lines in Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, and cap the size of its army.
In a meeting with Ukrainian officials in Kiev last week, US Army Secretary Dan Driscoll told his counterparts that their troops “faced a dire situation on the battlefield and would suffer an imminent defeat against Russian forces,” NBC reported, citing two sources.
The Russian military has been on the offensive in recent months in Donbass and elsewhere, with Ukrainian officials complaining of a lack of manpower.


Driscoll went on to say that Russia is increasing the scale and pace of its air attacks and can “fight on indefinitely,” and warned that US industry cannot keep supplying weapons and air defenses at the required rate, NBC said.
“The message was basically – you are losing, and you need to accept the deal,” the network’s source said.
According to NBC, Kiev refused to sign the deal, which has since been amended. Several media reports also suggest that Driscoll held “secret talks” with the Russian delegation in Abu Dhabi on Monday and Tuesday.
NBC described the talks between Driscoll and Ukrainian officials as a sign of a long-running rift in the Trump administration between Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
While Vance’s camp is seeking to push Kiev to compromise and see it “as the primary obstacle to peace,” supporters of Rubio believe that the Ukraine conflict could be settled by pressuring Russia, the network said. Vance and Rubio have denied being at odds over Ukraine.
Russia has said it remains in contact with Washington and has received the broad outlines of the plan, but said it will not “engage in megaphone diplomacy,” which could jeopardize the peace efforts
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So..the US is urging peace while simultaneously supplying the arms that perpetuate the whole debacle? :unsure:
 

Clown World is Agreement-Incapable - Vox Popoli

The 28-point peace plan announced last week is obviously dead on arrival. Clown World’s European puppets are already engaging in their characteristic surreal legalism as they explain how they’re going to put European troops from 20 countries into Odessa the day after the Russians sign the...
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I wonder when Pervert will realise the gig is up and move on to his next big thing?
Maybe it'll be ConVid Trannyism jabs or something?:ROFLMAO:
 
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Stupid EU gowls.:cool:

Western Europe facing ‘bleak future’ – Mearsheimer to Glenn Diesen (VIDEO)​

The crisis has triggered regional insecurity and created “huge problems” in relations between the EU and US, the renowned professor has said
Western Europe facing ‘bleak future’ – Mearsheimer to Glenn Diesen (VIDEO)

John Mearsheimer © Yasin Ozturk / Anadolu Agency / Getty Images

Western Europe faces a “bleak future” as a result of the Ukraine conflict, which was provoked by the West and the US in particular, according to American international relations expert John Mearsheimer.
In an interview with political scientist Glenn Diesen posted on Tuesday, Mearsheimer said the conflict had triggered major insecurity in Europe and had caused “huge problems” in relations between Washington and Western Europe.
Cooperation across political, military, and economic issues has grown more difficult, according to Mearsheimer, who pointed to recent talks as evidence that Western Europeans are “battling against the United States on how to deal with Ukraine.”

Mearsheimer, who is a political science professor at the University of Chicago, claimed Europe is “in deep trouble” for two main reasons linked to the weakening American role on the continent, arguing it “is largely a function of the presence of a substantial US military force in Europe.”

The US and West European governments expanded NATO after the Cold War because they “wanted to put the American security umbrella over the heads of the East Europeans as well as the West Europeans,” he said.
Mearsheimer said this system is now under strain because of a “deep change in the distribution of power” in the international order. The US could easily maintain large troop deployments in Europe during the 1990s and early 2000s, he said, but the rise of multipolarity now pushed Washington “to pivot to Asia.”
The remarks echoed Mearsheimer’s address at the European Parliament earlier this month, where he said the unipolar era had ended with the emergence of China and Russia as major powers. “The US was no longer the only great power in the world,” he said in Brussels.


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The shift gave Washington “further incentive to leave Europe and let Europe provide for its own security.” Mearsheimer warned the Ukraine conflict would likely be frozen rather than resolved, leaving “poisonous relations” between Western Europe and Russia and generating “lots of instability” in the region.
He also said the US and Western Europe had played a key role in provoking the conflict, arguing that the real cause lay in NATO’s push to bring Ukraine into the bloc, a move he said Russian leaders viewed as an existential threat.
 
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