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View: https://t.me/ukraine_watch/4439



It looks like the only area where the ukes have any hope is in infantry hand to hand as the tanks and the planes are done. Therefore it would be better described as skirmishes and they are advancing noplace.
 

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Here it is claimed that the Ukr soldiers are refusing to go into battle -


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wmprXxeFyE


View: https://youtu.be/4qt9LCx_fzg


According to this pro Russian lad that I follow, I will summarize.

After two weeks of a counteroffensive that failed , the ukes went to infantry waves. This resulted in a massacre on June 18th and things are quieter these past two days.

I actually believe it is all over now and for that not to be so, we must see this phantom huge uke army ready to pounce.

When nothing happens tomorrow or this week then why should any use sacrifice himself.

If that is the case then your video is likely to be the first of many. I hope the war is over now before any other poor hoor on either side is killed while "the masters of war" enjoy their coke and cavier.
 

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Well, it certainly marks a change of tactics from simply driving tanks over them. Slow learners, the Ukrainians, but they get there eventually.
To be honest.
That's pretty disrespectful to the Ukraine soldiers who have died due to the appalling and frankly evil way they have been squandered by their "leadership "
 
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To be honest.
That's pretty disrespectful to the Ukraine soldiers who have died due to the appalling and frankly evil way they have been squandered by their "leadership "
True, but I was aiming the remark, rather poorly I admit, at the commanders who sent the tanks into these death traps.
 
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Yep and apparently a lot of the Ukrainians are high as kites on God knows what drug's as well.
It's obscenity.
Therein, I think, lies a huge part of the problem from the top down as we have been hearing the occasional story of drug use for a while now. It's not something that is going away.
 

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Do you think it's a good idea for Ukraine to start targeting Russian territory with these weapons?
It'll have to check with its handlers.😜
These perverted cunts are praying for WW3, it'll make their lives seem worthwhile.
Sick bastards.🤢
 

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Yeah I noticed the P.ie flock actually try to debate. Ok they get their arses handed to them, as they're simply parroting Neocon lies, but at least they try. Our resident bot doesn't engage. He just posts links and attempts to ridicule when anyone engages him.
Funny though...a lad who just posts other faggots words from Twatter.😂
That's not debate or discussion, that's spamming and trolling.
The powers that be allow it so we can just laugh and carry on.
 
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I'm not a supporter of anything other than seeing the Ukrainians defend their land, people and future against a larger aggressive neighbour intent on subjugation.

You'd think you would have learned something from our own history, Max.

That the price of continued Russian aggression would eventually be too great for the Russian elite to bear. That the Russians would come to their senses and end their war of aggression.
So you are not a fan of the EU either, there might be hope for you yet.
 
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I believe that if Ukraine continues to target Russian forces and infrastructure, a couple of things will happen. It will continue to erode Russians ability to make war. It will continue to inflict increasingly serious economic damage to Russia.
Eventually a grownup in the Russian hierarchy will be forced to make a decision regarding Russias future.
After over a year of sanctions Russia's economy is set to grow by 2% this year. How are the NATO countries doing?

We all know that you are paid to post this crap, but whoever is doing the paying are making complete twats of themselves.
 
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This just doesn't exist, Max.

I'm sorry but we can't engage more if you keep up with these fairy stories and ignore what's actually happening.

Especially if you can't even acknowledge what the Russian Central Bank is saying!
After two weeks has the Ukrainian army actually reached the first of the Russian defence lines?
 

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Good fuck, the dirty pervert is using a Twatter account called 'Mr. Parrot' as a verifiable source.
I've seen it all now.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
 
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Yes.

A change of leadership will do that.

It's army is being destroyed. Its pulling 1950s kit out of storage. Eventually this will become a internal security issue as well as a national security issue. Any further mobilisation is likely to be destabilising. And the economy is running on fumes. It just can't go on forever.
Not a hope boyo.

If anything a change of leadership will bring a real hardliner in. You need to get out of your Twatter fueled rut and read what others are saying about the conflict
 

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And your point is?

The latest Leopards are just as vulnerable to anti tank weapons so quite what the role of the tank now is on the battlefield is open to question.
And that applies to both sets of forces.
Or any vehicles on the battlefield more to the point.
Drones have totally changed the definitions of strength and weakness.
Either as monitors or weapons platforms.
Aircraft (,manned!) Look like their purpose is disappearing when technically matched peer adversaries have at each other.
Aircraft carriers!!!
Same again!
Ironically it's very like a WW1 conflict despite all the above.
Defence in depth hit and run artillery.
Dig out fortified sites the hard way because of the mentioned advances in technology.
He who makes the most wins.
He who kills the most wins.
As it ever was.
 

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And your point is?

The latest Leopards are just as vulnerable to anti tank weapons so quite what the role of the tank now is on the battlefield is open to question.
When someone is posting Twatter links from cats and parrots from all hours of the morning as 'verifiable sources' one knows for sure they're mentally ill.
Is hilarious to watch, but quite sad in its own way.
 

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But we already see T-54/55s in the field. Are you denying this too?
There are plenty of tasks which they can do like modern tanks, especially in defense when ATGM is not a threat
USA even had a light tank program since 2015 to have something similar with weight/firepower to T-55
Accurate rifled cannon, decent armor to withstand artillery, and low weight allows them quickly move between different spots(36 tons is less than on newest US light tank M10 Booker)
Using them as AFV/Light tank) is still better than collecting rust in storage
 

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'Mr. Parrot' ha been busy reposting insightful and intelligent tweets such as 'Let's be Russophobic', a delightful tweet with a picture featuring an army general, a tank and yes, you've guessed it A CAT.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
 

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In another great tweet by 'Mr Parrot' it asks 'Who has a higher IQ? A walrus or an average Russian citizen?
And this is a verifiable source according to some perverts.
😂
 
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Not actually conspiracy theory-


 

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The retarded 'Mr Parrot' also refers to Russian citizens as 'orcs' and demands to send them back to Mordor.

Is 'Mr Parrott' our very own pervert 'WankTank'?
Sure sounds like it.
 

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The pervert is a parody of a human.
So funny.
Cats and Parrots.
😂😂😂😂😂
 

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Not sure if it can get any more embarrassing for the site pervert.....but don't be surprised when it does.
The poor Dame.😂
 
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I have to ask, as a moderator do you think it's acceptable for a single poster to spam the site day in and day out with Twatter links from Parrots and Cats?
Isn't this supposed to be a discussion site?
Perhaps @Declan or @valamhic could clarify too?
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That makes no sense at all if you knew the least things about politics in Iraq and Syria. Though your West has murdered one of them already the people who were key to defeating ISIL were Shahid Qasem Soleimani and Vladimir Putin.
 

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IIRC, it's the first time I've asked a moderator anything on thread.
Unlike the site pervert/peado I don't spend my time whining to PC Plodd so perhaps someone could clarify if spamming with Twatter links from retards is acceptable on this site.
 

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