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[Haven]

This Grand jury unsealing lark looks like another Trunp miscalculation. Now he needs the judges help but they are going to twist the knive here. Tough shit.

Judge denies DOJ request to unseal Jeffrey Epstein grand jury transcripts in Florida

Trump had directed Attorney General Pam Bondi to release “any and all pertinent" grand jury documents as pressure continues to mount on the administration over Epstein.

www.nbcnews.com

"Rosenberg noted that two other appeals courts have allowed additional exceptions to releasing grand jury material. One is the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, whose jurisdiction includes New York City, where the administration has moved to unseal additional grand jury testimony relating to the Epstein and Maxwell investigations."

"Rosenberg's ruling said the government essentially conceded that she did not have the authority to release the transcripts, but her swift decision will allow the administration to ask the 11th Circuit to reconsider its earlier ruling on grand jury secrecy."

Trump needs to explain in painful detail why he wants to unseal the Grand jury transcripts.

Why unsealing Epstein grand jury records could be a long process

Facing uproar among his MAGA base over the Jeffrey Epstein files, President Donald Trump is trying to deflect blame to others.

abcnews.go.com

"The DOJ and FBI have numerous other unclassified records in the case that they said they will not disclose, despite vowing in February to "release the remaining documents upon review and redaction to protect the identities of Epstein’s victims."

An "evidence list" released in February offers a roadmap to some of these unreleased records, including visitor records to Epstein's private island as well as wiretap records for Maxwell.

Earlier this month, the DOJ and FBI released a memo stating no further records in the case would be released, saying "much of the material is subject to court-ordered sealing" and that the agencies "will not permit the release of child pornography" or sensitive details pertaining to the victims."

Now Trump needs to make a clear case why this no longer matters. Hoist on his own petard.

 

[Wolf]

So now the Tank of Wank is blaming Trump because Degenerate Party judges refuse to release the files.
Probably sick because the DoJ "will not permit the release child pornography" (Wank's words)
Ya couldn't make this shit up, what a fucking retard.

@Declan get this fucking idiot the fuck away from our site.

 

[Haven]

Epstein grand jury transcripts only contain testimony from 2 witnesses, DOJ officials say

President Trump directed Attorney General Pam Bondi and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche to unseal the grand jury testimony.

www.cbsnews.com

"The grand jury transcripts that the Justice Department is attempting to unseal from the investigations into the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and his former associate Ghislaine Maxwell contain testimony from only two law enforcement officers, top Justice Department officials said in a court filing late Tuesday."



What a fucking joke. This whole Grand Jury lark is an intentional waste of time.

Just release the files Donny, like the Dems want you to.

 

[Wolf]

Dickhead's own article reads 'President Trump directed Attorney General Pam Bondi and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche to unseal the grand jury testimony'
Unfortunately two Degenerate Party bootlickers in New York are refusing to allow that.

Is the Tank of Wank actually fully retarded or just an idiot troll?

 

[jpc]

This Grand jury unsealing lark looks like another Trunp miscalculation. Now he needs the judges help but they are going to twist the knive here. Tough shit.

Judge denies DOJ request to unseal Jeffrey Epstein grand jury transcripts in Florida

Trump had directed Attorney General Pam Bondi to release “any and all pertinent" grand jury documents as pressure continues to mount on the administration over Epstein.

www.nbcnews.com

"Rosenberg noted that two other appeals courts have allowed additional exceptions to releasing grand jury material. One is the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, whose jurisdiction includes New York City, where the administration has moved to unseal additional grand jury testimony relating to the Epstein and Maxwell investigations."

"Rosenberg's ruling said the government essentially conceded that she did not have the authority to release the transcripts, but her swift decision will allow the administration to ask the 11th Circuit to reconsider its earlier ruling on grand jury secrecy."

Trump needs to explain in painful detail why he wants to unseal the Grand jury transcripts.

Why unsealing Epstein grand jury records could be a long process

Facing uproar among his MAGA base over the Jeffrey Epstein files, President Donald Trump is trying to deflect blame to others.

abcnews.go.com

"The DOJ and FBI have numerous other unclassified records in the case that they said they will not disclose, despite vowing in February to "release the remaining documents upon review and redaction to protect the identities of Epstein’s victims."

An "evidence list" released in February offers a roadmap to some of these unreleased records, including visitor records to Epstein's private island as well as wiretap records for Maxwell.

Earlier this month, the DOJ and FBI released a memo stating no further records in the case would be released, saying "much of the material is subject to court-ordered sealing" and that the agencies "will not permit the release of child pornography" or sensitive details pertaining to the victims."

Now Trump needs to make a clear case why this no longer matters. Hoist on his own petard.

"Earlier this month, the DOJ and FBI released a memo stating no further records in the case would be released, saying "much of the material is subject to court-ordered sealing" and that the agencies "will not permit the release of child pornography" or sensitive details pertaining to the victims"

This is the biggest load of bollox.
If the victims or just a few said.
We waive anonymity.
Would the authority's say fine let's do it.
Somewhere back along a lot of the victims had received damages.
Very substantial amounts.
Were ndas part of the process.?

 

[Wolf]

"Earlier this month, the DOJ and FBI released a memo stating no further records in the case would be released, saying "much of the material is subject to court-ordered sealing" and that the agencies "will not permit the release of child pornography" or sensitive details pertaining to the victims"

This is the biggest load of bollox.
If the victims or just a few said.
We waive anonymity.
Would the authority's say fine let's do it.
Somewhere back along a lot of the victims had received damages.
Very substantial amounts.
Were ndas part of the process.?

The blockage in the system is the two Degenerate Party appointed New York judges who are point blank refusing to release the records.
This shite keeps the plebs busy while Trump does exactly what he promised in his election manifesto. Idiots are too blinded by hatred for the orange man to see it.
It's hilarious.

 

[jpc]

The blockage in the system is the two Degenerate Party appointed New York judges who are point blank refusing to release the records.
This shite keeps the plebs busy while Trump does exactly what he promised in his election manifesto. Idiots are too blinded by hatred for the orange man to see it.
It's hilarious.

Democrats poll ratings have plummeted despite the Donald shifting on maga heads.

 

[Haven]

"Earlier this month, the DOJ and FBI released a memo stating no further records in the case would be released, saying "much of the material is subject to court-ordered sealing" and that the agencies "will not permit the release of child pornography" or sensitive details pertaining to the victims"

This is the biggest load of bollox.
If the victims or just a few said.
We waive anonymity.
Would the authority's say fine let's do it.
Somewhere back along a lot of the victims had received damages.
Very substantial amounts.
Were ndas part of the process.?

Trump has been panicking ever since Bondi told him he is in the files.

 

[Wolf]

Trump has been panicking ever since Bondi told him he is in the files.

Yea, panicking to get your Degenerate mates to unseal the files.
Moron.

 

[Wolf]

Democrats poll ratings have plummeted despite the Donald shifting on maga heads.

They're not all stupid. Decent people know what's going on and exactly who is holding up the release.
They also know this is just performance politics by their utterly depraved party leaders.

 

[jpc]

Trump has been panicking ever since Bondi told him he is in the files.

He's not the one who's really terrified.
Plenty in the queue ahead of him

But the main question and it's not the porn or victim's dignity.
Why are democratic appointed judges refusing to release the files?
Surely if its going to take down Trump the files would be released no problem despite his screeching and blowing.
There is something far more damaging to be kept hidden.

 

[jpc]

They're not all stupid. Decent people know what's going on and exactly who is holding up the release.
They also know this is just performance politics by their utterly depraved party leaders.

 

[Haven]

He's not the one who's really terrified.
Plenty in the queue ahead of him

But the main question and it's not the porn or victim's dignity.
Why are democratic appointed judges refusing to release the files?

They arent. Bondi has all the files.

What the judges are being asked to do is release the Grand Jury testimony transcripts.
All Grand Jury testimony is sealed and only released under exceptions the judges are bound by. Trumps people are being asked to justify the exceptions.

Bondi knows this. Its a massive distraction move. And when the judges release the testimony, it wont be all the evidence....Grand Juries are given just enough to recommend going to trial.....and all the evidence would then be given at trial.

Bondi has all the evidence.

Surely if its going to take down Trump the files would be released no problem despite his screeching and blowing.

Bondi can release them anytime.

There is something far more damaging to be kept hidden.

For Trump, yes.

 

[Wolf]

Methinks the site pervert has the horn for the orange man.
What it doesn't have is a single clue about separation of powers when it comes to politicians, their employees and the court systems.
What a thick lonely cunt.

 

[jpc]

They arent. Bondi has all the files.

What the judges are being asked to do is release the Grand Jury testimony transcripts.
All Grand Jury testimony is sealed and only released under exceptions the judges are bound by. Trumps people are being asked to justify the exceptions.

Bondi knows this. Its a massive distraction move. And when the judges release the testimony, it wont be all the evidence....Grand Juries are given just enough to recommend going to trial.....and all the evidence would then be given at trial.

Bondi has all the evidence.


Bondi can release them anytime.

For Trump, yes.

You're on the hopium now.
That's your agenda and good luck with it

 

[Wolf]

I

You're on the hopium now.
That's your agenda and good luck with it

Do you reckon it's drug induced?

 

[Haven]

You're on the hopium now.
That's your agenda and good luck with it

Theres no agenda. Its straight up clear that the grand jury transcripts are not the documents still held by FBI and DoJ.

The release of the transcripts is still only a temporary distraction....Donny still has to release all the files eventually.

 

[Wolf]

I wonder how many times Zitler the cross dressing jew boy was on Epstein's island?
Remember, in Eastern Europe, Kyiv is ground zero for pedophiles.
Sure would explain Pedo Joe's proxy war against Russia.

 

[Haven]

Trump continues to panic.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/25/nx-s1-5479159/a-democratic-senator-was-already-investigating-jeffrey-epsteins-finances

Three years ago, Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon used his power as chair of the Senate Finance Committee to begin an investigation into Epstein's finances. He's now the ranking Democrat on that committee controlled by Republicans, and Wyden says his investigation has found suspicious transactions totaling more than $1 billion. He's raised questions about the money trail that he wants the Justice Department to pursue.

Trump admin blocks investigation into Epstein money trail

The White House has revoked access to sensitive Treasury documents that had been granted under Biden, stalling a four-year investigation into Epstein's assets.

www.beltway.news

Trump blocks further investigation

Trump Lashes Out at Reporter Asking About His Epstein Revelation: ‘Be Quiet!’

The president snapped at CNN’s Kaitlan Collins at the White House twice.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Wolf]

It might get 'interesting'......

Pedophile Alliance: How Zelensky’s cronies rape children on Richard Branson island - VT Foreign Policy

Human rights activists of the Foundation to Battle Injustice have obtained strong evidence of the involvement of Ukrainian high-ranking officials and businessmen close to Zelensky in the sexual exploitation of underage children. The Foundation to Battle Injustice uncovered the participants and...

vtforeignpolicy.com

Easy to see why the Tank of Wank has such a deep interest in these things, especially with its history on this site.

 

[Haven]

Follow the money.

The United States Senate Committee on Finance

As Trump Sits on Key Epstein Files, Wyden Lays Out “Follow the Money” Investigation for DOJ

www.finance.senate.gov

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/17/business/epstein-banks-wyden-trump.html

 

[Mad as Fish]

It might get 'interesting'......

Pedophile Alliance: How Zelensky’s cronies rape children on Richard Branson island - VT Foreign Policy

Human rights activists of the Foundation to Battle Injustice have obtained strong evidence of the involvement of Ukrainian high-ranking officials and businessmen close to Zelensky in the sexual exploitation of underage children. The Foundation to Battle Injustice uncovered the participants and...

vtforeignpolicy.com

Easy to see why the Tank of Wank has such a deep interest in these things, especially with its history on this site.

I had a feeling that Branson's name would crop up at some point, for a man who sucked up all the publicity he could get in his early career he has remained well below the radar for quite a few years now.

Necker Ireland wouldn't be the only resort he owns, there is one near Marrakesh which employs many locals at excellent rates of pay I was told. He is worshiped by the local community because of it, so I doubt that any scandal will be heard from there, and it is Morocco after all.

 

[Wolf]

Jaysus, the Degenerates really are desperate to get their hands on some kiddy porn all the same....

The letter spells out exactly what Democrats are demanding, calling for the release of “all documents, files, evidence, or other materials in the possession of DOJ or FBI related to” Epstein’s prosecution, including “audio and video recordings” and much more.

Trump’s Epstein Fiasco Worsens as Dems Suddenly Find Big New Weapon

Senate Democrats are using a 1928 law to pressure Trump to release the Epstein files. The White House will ignore them. Here’s what could happen next.

newrepublic.com

Could they not just ask Wank for his?

 

[jpc]

Jaysus, the Degenerates really are desperate to get their hands on some kiddy porn all the same....

The letter spells out exactly what Democrats are demanding, calling for the release of “all documents, files, evidence, or other materials in the possession of DOJ or FBI related to” Epstein’s prosecution, including “audio and video recordings” and much more.

Trump’s Epstein Fiasco Worsens as Dems Suddenly Find Big New Weapon

Senate Democrats are using a 1928 law to pressure Trump to release the Epstein files. The White House will ignore them. Here’s what could happen next.

newrepublic.com

Could they not just ask Wank for his?

Absolutely.
Put it all out there!
There's a saying
Politicians are like nappies.
You have to change them regularly because they end up stinking.
Never more true than now!

 

[Haven]

Absolutely.
Put it all out there!

Even the kiddie porn? Wolf wont like that.

There's a saying
Politicians are like nappies.
You have to change them regularly because they end up stinking.
Never more true than now!

 

[Wolf]

Even the kiddie porn? Wolf wont like that.

That's your lane, Wank, not mine.

Forget about trying to bait me you fucking idiot, everyone here knows what you are.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

They arent. Bondi has all the files.What the judges are being asked to do is release the Grand Jury testimony transcripts.All Grand Jury testimony is sealed and only released under exceptions the judges are bound by. Trumps people are being asked to justify the exceptions.Bondi knows this. Its a massive distraction move. And when the judges release the testimony, it wont be all the evidence....Grand Juries are given just enough to recommend going to trial.....and all the evidence would then be given at trial.Bondi has all the evidence.Bondi can release them anytime.For Trump, yes.

What the hell are you talking about you idiot?

 

[Haven]

Virginia Giuffre's family expresses shock over Trump saying Epstein 'stole' her

The family of Jeffrey Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre has expressed shock over President Donald Trump saying the disgraced New York financier “stole” her from him.

apnews.com

 

[jpc]

Even the kiddie porn? Wolf wont like that.

This is a moderator warning.
You have had the expectations of this site explained unambiguously to you.
Any more of this trolling derailing shit and you are gone

 

[Haven]

This is a moderator warning.
You have had the expectations of this site explained unambiguously to you.
Any more of this trolling derailing shit and you are gone

But he actualy said "the Degenerates really are desperate to get their hands on some kiddy porn all the same".

Based on his other comments (which have had no mod warnings btw), its safe to assume he is expressing disapproval here too. Good for him.

I fail to see how Im breaking any site expectations in pointing this out.

 

[jpc]

But he actualy said "the Degenerates really are desperate to get their hands on some kiddy porn all the same".

Based on his other comments (which had had no mod warnings btw), its safe to assume he is expressing disapproval here too. Good for him.

I fail to see how Im breaking any site expectations in pointing this out.

No more discussions.
You have been made told.

 

[AN2]

That's your lane, Wank, not mine.

Accusing other posters of being a paedo is against site rules..

But it seems that that doesn't apply to you 'Wolf'. The (remaining) moderation here is ostensibly corrupt

Forget about trying to bait me you fucking idiot, everyone here knows what you are.

 

[Wolf]

Accusing other posters of being a paedo is against site rules..

But it seems that that doesn't apply to you 'Wolf'. The (remaining) moderation here is ostensibly corrupt

Piss off, Alco.

 

[AN2]

No more discussions.
You have been made told.

It seems to me that you've failed at reading comprehension here and let the only poster who accused another of being a paedophile, your buddy Wolf, off scot-free

 

[AN2]

Piss off, Alco.

Fuck off you slandering, stalking, spamming, useless retard

 

[Wolf]

Fuck off you slandering, stalking, spamming, useless retard

Good lad.
BTW, where today did I call your fellow traveller what you said?

 

[AN2]

Good lad.
BTW, where today did I call your fellow traveller what you said?

Jesus wept..

Even the kiddie porn? Wolf wont like that.

That's your lane, Wank, not mine.

 

[AN2]

Can any of you dumb fuckers actually read

You've now banned @Haven - who didn't accuse anyone of being a paedophile - and let the poster who did off scot-free

 

[jpc]

Piss off, Alco.

Likewise any more of abuse isn't going to be tolerated.
Argue away keep it civil.

 

[AN2]

Likewise any more of abuse isn't going to be tolerated.
Argue away keep it civil.

Why did you ban Haven?