US Politics.

[Mad as Fish]

It's ok, Pervert, your drug pushing buddy Bill Gates is buying up the farmland anyway.
Let him deal with it, TINA.

Worth bearing in mind that the vast majority of farms in the USA are small family owned units, there are 1.88m farms in the USA after all. It's the big prairie farms that grow soya and corn, not the smaller ones, and there are far more of them.

 

[Haven]

What the feck do you expect them to say?

Soybean prices have only returned to pre-pandemic levels.

Theres a little more to it than that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/25/business/china-soybean-sales-farmers.html

US Soybean Window Narrows as China Buys Big From Argentina

China has secured up to 35 cargos of soybeans from Argentina this week, marking a significant development in global oilseed markets. Read more.

www.expanamarkets.com

 

[Mad as Fish]

More like a soybean burger.

Farm bankruptcies are soaring amid low crop prices, while Trump considers bailout of up to $14 billion | Fortune

In the second quarter, there were 93 bankruptcy filings, up from 88 in the first quarter and nearly double the 47 at the end of 2024.

fortune.com

“Soybean farmers are under extreme financial stress,” the American Soybean Association said in a letter to Trump in August. “Prices continue to drop and at the same time our farmers are paying significantly more for inputs and equipment. U.S. soybean farmers cannot survive a prolonged trade dispute with our largest customer.”

'The number of farm operations filing for bankruptcy remains at historically low levels'

And you can bet your grubby vest that most of those involve divorce, drink, etc.

 

[Wolf]

'The number of farm operations filing for bankruptcy remains at historically low levels'

And you can bet your grubby vest that most of those involve divorce, drink, etc.

The poor fucker is getting more and more desperate for attention by the day.
Posts until the wee hours, falls asleep then starts posting around 3 pm when it can focus on the keyboard/screen again......
Dunno what its tranny mates will do without their soy milk though.
Fuckin' hilarious stuff altogether.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Theres a little more to it than that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/25/business/china-soybean-sales-farmers.html

US Soybean Window Narrows as China Buys Big From Argentina

China has secured up to 35 cargos of soybeans from Argentina this week, marking a significant development in global oilseed markets. Read more.

www.expanamarkets.com

It has always bought big from south America, the US supplied around 20% of China's imports.

Any bailout will suit the farm suppliers eg, John Deere, CNH etc, as much as it will the actual farms, and Trump wants to make stuff in the USA.

 

[Mad as Fish]

The poor fucker is getting more and more desperate for attention by the day.
Posts until the wee hours, falls asleep then starts posting around 3 pm when he can focus on the keyboard/screen again......
Fuckin' hilarious stuff altogether.

He's out of his depth again, running around looking for stories rather than actually understanding what is going on.

 

[Haven]

It has always bought big from south America, the US supplied around 20 of the China's imports.

And now it supplies zero. Its not lower prices hurting those farmers, its zero revenue from what was once a dependable buyer.

Any bailout will suit the farm suppliers eg, John Deere, CNH etc, as much as it will the actual farms, and Trump wants to make stuff in the USA.

I sure it wont be the last Trump bailout either.

 

[Wolf]

He's out of his depth again, running around looking for stories rather than actually understanding what is going on.

It just craves attention.
It has nothing else.
It's like dealing with Jimmy.

 

[Haven]

Moving on, even more FAFO.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/02/trump-h1b-visa-fee-hospitals-doctors-red-states-00592194

 

[Mad as Fish]

And now it supplies zero. Its not lower prices hurting those farmers, its zero revenue from what was once a dependable buyer.


I sure it wont be the last Trump bailout either.

Errr.... what total bollux.

 

[Haven]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/07/pam-bondi-stonewalls-question-about-trump-mentions-in-epstein-files.html

 

[Haven]

Errr.... what total bollux.

I'm afraid not.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/07/us/politics/trump-farmers-aid-china-trade-war.html

“We have an export-dependent industry, we’ve angered its biggest customer, and, boom, now we’re bailing out the export-dependent industry,” said Scott Lincicome, the vice president for general economics at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank. “It’s kind of a slow-motion train wreck six years in the making.”

Farmers have long been a reliable voting bloc for Mr. Trump, making them a rich target for retaliation. In Mr. Trump’s first term, China hit back at his tariffs by imposing its own levies on U.S. whiskey, cranberries, pork and soybeans. The fallout was so painful that the administration delivered more than $20 billion in aid to farmers.

Republican lawmakers have estimated that, this time around, farmers could need as much as $50 billion in economic support."

 

[Mad as Fish]

I'm afraid not.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/07/us/politics/trump-farmers-aid-china-trade-war.html

“We have an export-dependent industry, we’ve angered its biggest customer, and, boom, now we’re bailing out the export-dependent industry,” said Scott Lincicome, the vice president for general economics at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank. “It’s kind of a slow-motion train wreck six years in the making.”

Farmers have long been a reliable voting bloc for Mr. Trump, making them a rich target for retaliation. In Mr. Trump’s first term, China hit back at his tariffs by imposing its own levies on U.S. whiskey, cranberries, pork and soybeans. The fallout was so painful that the administration delivered more than $20 billion in aid to farmers.

Republican lawmakers have estimated that, this time around, farmers could need as much as $50 billion in economic support."

Oh Gawd!

If there is a global price for a commodity then there is a global market for it. If Argentina is selling soyabean to China then it is not selling it to somebody else so the US will sell it to that somebody else.

 

[Wolf]

Oh Gawd!

If there is a global price for a commodity then there is a global market for it. If Argentina is selling soyabean to China then it is not selling it to somebody else so the US will sell it to that somebody else.

How is inflation going in the USA now Pedo Joe and the Degenerates are out?

 

[Haven]

Oh Gawd!

If there is a global price for a commodity then there is a global market for it. If Argentina is selling soyabean to China then it is not selling it to somebody else so the US will sell it to that somebody else.

In theory.
But of course those buyers have also been subject to Trumps tariffs. I'm sure whatever they decide to buy will be at a deep discount. If they buy.

U.S. Soybean Farmers, Deserted by Big Buyer China, Scramble for Other Importers

For the first time in more than 20 years, Chinese importers have not yet bought soybeans from the autumn U.S. harvest, forcing farmers to store their crops on hopes that prices will eventually rise from around a five-year low. It is a risk that delays their ability to bring in money from crop...

www.agriculture.com

Maybe the surviving farmers will have it sorted next harvest time.

 

[Mad as Fish]

In theory.
But of course those buyers have also been subject to Trumps tariffs. I'm sure whatever they decide to buy will be at a deep discount. If they buy.

U.S. Soybean Farmers, Deserted by Big Buyer China, Scramble for Other Importers

For the first time in more than 20 years, Chinese importers have not yet bought soybeans from the autumn U.S. harvest, forcing farmers to store their crops on hopes that prices will eventually rise from around a five-year low. It is a risk that delays their ability to bring in money from crop...

www.agriculture.com

Maybe the surviving farmers will have it sorted next harvest time.

China was already Argentina's biggest customer, taking over 80% of its soya exports, it lifted taxes on exports for a few months and Chinese buyers piled in, yet it does not have an inexhaustable supply and the Argentine government will want that revenue stream back. It's a waiting game.

 

[AN2]

It just craves attention.
It has nothing else.
It's like dealing with Jimmy.

I'm surprised that I haven't put this thread in my bozo bin by now, like I did with the Ukraine thread (you being far and away the biggest copy/paste/shit poster in that one)

I would prefer it if the US Politics thread was readable though.. you and @Haven doing your bests to prevent it..

 

[Wolf]

I'm surprised that I haven't put this thread in my bozo bin by now, like I did with the Ukraine thread (you being far and away the biggest copy/paste/shit poster in that one)

I would prefer it if the US Politics thread was readable though.. you and @Haven doing your bests to prevent it..

Jimmy, nearly every thread you scutter in I have in my 'ignore thread' list.
The site would be unusable if I had to read your total bollox every time your brain farts, you fucking muppet.

 

[AN2]

Jimmy, nearly every thread you scutter in I have in my 'ignore thread' list.
The site would be unusable if I had to read your total bollox every time your brain farts, you fucking muppet.

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