What is the relationship of edgy mainstream Rightism (McGuirk, Tommeh, etc) to the Dissident Right and Nationalism?

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An interesting piece appeared recently on the National Party website giving one of their members' views on the subject which high lighted tensions in Ireland going back centuries. The writer sees the likes of McGuirk and Tommeh as both parasites on and blocks to the type of Nationalist energies manifest in the National Party- something I think @AN2 would broadly agree with. To some extent I think this is true but I am not convinced it is as true as many people seem to believe.

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I've heard from a very reliable source that a well know "far Right" Irish journalist who was pro convid jabs is very very fond of his opioids
 

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If there is to be some new thing happening on the right then maybe it needs to be done from inside the Tory party not through parties like the Irish National Party or the BNP. Corbyn did everything he did through the Labour party instead of following George Galloway down the path of making another meaningless party.
 

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Corbyn did not believe he was going to win the leadership and was in no way prepared to. He did not cope with the leadership position well at all. And I say that as someone with a lot of genuine affection for the man.
Well, he's a Communist so I don't like him.

I'm wondering if it is possible to have someone in Tory party leadership who wants to put in place something like what Julius Evola was in favour of.
 

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I'm wondering if it is possible to have someone in Tory party leadership who wants to put in place something like what Julius Evola was in favour of.

No. Part of the reason is that the "Conservative Party" have not been a Tory Party for a long time.
 

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No. Part of the reason is that the "Conservative Party" have not been a Tory Party for a long time.
But wasn't that the same argument Corbyn made about Labour? Labour hadn't been a Socialist party in a long time. & yet Corbyn became leader of the Labour party.
 

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Corbyn did not believe he was going to win the leadership and was in no way prepared to. He did not cope with the leadership position well at all. And I say that as someone with a lot of genuine affection for the man.
Well, he's a Communist so I don't like him.

I'm wondering if it is possible to have someone in Tory party leadership who wants to put in place something like what Julius Evola was in favour of.
He fairness to Jeremy Corbyn, he's not the same kind of bad egg as our socialist party PBP scum, he wasn't championing "zero covid" and vaccine passports for example.
 

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There's no debate about immigration.
So how can it be toxified?
That's the problem

Well she is in the North.

There kind of has been in the UK and actually the Starmer government has been reversing the long standing policy of mass immigration which the Conservative Party talked about doing but was never going to actually do because it economically benefited a lot of it's donors. I despise Starmer but credit where credit is due.
 

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Well she is in the North.

There kind of has been in the UK and actually the Starmer government has been reversing the long standing policy of mass immigration which the Conservative Party talked about doing but was never going to actually do because it economically benefited a lot of it's donors. I despise Starmer but credit where credit is due.
Do you think Tony Blair & similar politicians were actually more right-wing than supposedly 'right-wing' politicians such as Trump, Putin, Farage, AfD & so forth?
 

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The first time I think I came across the phrase "Woke Right" was years ago and it was being used by Rushdooney/"Faith and Heritage" types (Protestant Theocratic authoritarians who a lot of the time are pretty Nationalistic basically) to describe the likes of Peterson himself for not being homophobic and/or not believing in what they call "Biblical Patriarchy".
 

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The first time I think I came across the phrase "Woke Right" was years ago and it was being used by Rushdooney/"Faith and Heritage" types (Protestant Theocratic authoritarians who a lot of the time are pretty Nationalistic basically) to describe the likes of Peterson himself for not being homophobic and/or not believing in what they call "Biblical Patriarchy".
"Woke Right" doesn't mean someone who's a rightist who's woke like a leftist
 

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"Woke Right" doesn't mean someone who's a rightist who's woke like a leftist

It is a silly term.

That Kisin creep used it to describe anyone who shared Maurice Cowling's and Pat Buchanan's views on Churchill even if they are not what could be called White Nationalists or whatever.
 

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It is a silly term.

That Kisin creep used it to describe anyone who shared Maurice Cowling's and Pat Buchanan's views on Churchill even if they are not what could be called White Nationalists or whatever.
I thinks it's a bit more than silly

These are people ('conservatives', Jews) telling white people not to take their own side
 

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MARXIST Malachy says it's all about resources, in interview with kosher right media outlet Gript -


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0RA03-fnhCw

Just as actual nationalists in Europe are talking about remigration, this boomer leftist is talking about building more houses (I can't believe that anyone thinks that these people are nationalists 😅)
 

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Steenson has to take it easy with certain topics if he wants to get elected.

If he goes too hard he won't get the more moderate vote.

I'm sure in private he'd agree with you Sir.
 

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During a debate titled "One Christian vs. Twenty Atheists," Jordan Peterson was pressed to identify himself as a Christian but awkwardly refused.
Dang that Dork mauled Peterson. I didn't think he was that fragile.

Then again I saw him break into tears many's a time.
 

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