Savage Ulster Prods as an argument FOR mass immigration into the 26 counties.

[SwordOfStZip]

This is actually a thing and exists beyond Politics.ie.

You would think that given the six counties are an example of a dysfunctional multi-ethnic society where both tribes are though not quite the same extremely biologically similar and come from the same cultural sphere namely that which grew out of Nordic-Latin Christendom (Yugoslavs are biologically the same but belong to different cultural spheres) would have frightened people off experimenting with mass immigration. However no, this argument goes, mass immigration should be welcomed because savage Ulster Prods would not like it therefore it must be good.

One of the worst things for me about savage Ulster Prods is their "the Fenians are agin it therefore we must be for it" line of argumentation. Another thing is that at least on P.ie a lot of people making this argument were "West Brits".

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

This is actually a thing and exists beyond Politics.ie.

You would think that given the six counties are an example of a dysfunctional multi-ethnic society where both tribes are though not quite the same extremely biologically similar and come from the same cultural sphere namely that which grew out of Nordic-Latin Christendom (Yugoslavs are biologically the same but belong to different cultural spheres) would have frightened people off experimenting with mass immigration. However no, this argument goes, mass immigration should be welcomed because savage Ulster Prods would not like it therefore it must be good.

One of the worst things for me about savage Ulster Prods is their "the Fenians are agin it therefore we must be for it" line of argumentation. Another thing is that at least on P.ie a lot of people making this argument were "West Brits".

This is similar to Morgoth's latest video where he talks about how the Labour govt under Blair deliberately increased immigration to 'rub the Right's nose in it'. Rather than reacting with furious anti-immigration policies on return to government the Tories allowed a 'Boris-wave' of immigration to swamp the country, with the pretext that Brexit was part of a 'Global Britain'. That traditional immigrants like Polish plumbers disappeared to be replaced with vast swathes of people who were notably different from the host population. That this has reached a level that the Left's usual talk of inclusion, and benefits to the NHS etc are no longer washing with its supporters and voters. Hence we have seen Starmer's Island of Strangers speech.

The North is is so steeped in it Palestine fascination currently that any immigrant that arrives is viewed as a proxy Palestinian and who must have endured similar circumstances in their own country hence we are saving their lives. Looking into the nature of the immigrant's actual countries or their circumstances sounds too much like hard work, beyond the intellectual curiosity of most people and why would you even want to question or find a reason? are you some sort of closet racist for even thinking of questioning these people? And of course the Prods are a Zionist KKKulture, so we are 'good people' if we welcome all comers.

I suspect that the Fenians are going to experience that same shocking reality as the Red Wall Labour supporters have. In time. When the people in their towns and villages are no longer 'the Lithos' but the the Asians, Africans and Indians. Their lived experience will be violently at odds with the mantras delivered SF and the SDLP. Already you don't have scratch so deep in private conversation to hear some very reactionary sentiments coming from northern Nationalists, but these are not yet at the point that they will break the tribal code and risk being seen as sharing a view that Unionist or Loyalist may have.

 

[SwordOfStZip]

This is similar to Morgoth's latest video where he talks about how the Labour govt under Blair deliberately increased immigration to 'rub the Right's nose in it'. Rather than reacting with furious anti-immigration policies on return to government the Tories allowed a 'Boris-wave' of immigration to swamp the country, with the pretext that Brexit was part of a 'Global Britain'. That traditional immigrants like Polish plumbers disappeared to be replaced with vast swathes of people who were notably different from the host population. That this has reached a level that the Left's usual talk of inclusion, and benefits to the NHS etc are no longer washing with its supporters and voters. Hence we have seen Starmer's Island of Strangers speech.

The North is is so steeped in it Palestine fascination currently that any immigrant that arrives is viewed as a proxy Palestinian and who must have endured similar circumstances in their own country hence we are saving their lives. Looking into the nature of the immigrant's actual countries or their circumstances sounds too much like hard work, beyond the intellectual curiosity of most people and why would you even want to question or find a reason? are you some sort of closet racist for even thinking of questioning these people? And of course the Prods are a Zionist KKKulture, so we are 'good people' if we welcome all comers.

I suspect that the Fenians are going to experience that same shocking reality as the Red Wall Labour supporters have. In time. When the people in their towns and villages are no longer 'the Lithos' but the the Asians, Africans and Indians. Their lived experience will be violently at odds with the mantras delivered SF and the SDLP. Already you don't have scratch so deep in private conversation to hear some very reactionary sentiments coming from northern Nationalists, but these are not yet at the point that they will break the tribal code and risk being seen as sharing a view that Unionist or Loyalist may have.

I wasn't thinking of the six counties. I was thinking of the South.

I remember there was this silly rally by Pentecostalist Prods, who I am not fans of, in Dublin and seeing this counter-demo of Libtards looking like someone like Myles would imagine Libtards to look like chanting- "Right wing grifters go away, go back to the queen and the UDA" (this when the UK now has a King but however...). The thing is that when it counted Mary Robinson who is the ultimate heroine of these people used to hold demos outside the Sinn Fein Offices in Dublin during the dramas about the "Anglo-Irish Agreement" in support for the Loyalists (albeit not their terrorism).

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[AN2]

This is actually a thing and exists beyond Politics.ie.

You would think that given the six counties are an example of a dysfunctional multi-ethnic society where both tribes are though not quite the same extremely biologically similar and come from the same cultural sphere namely that which grew out of Nordic-Latin Christendom (Yugoslavs are biologically the same but belong to different cultural spheres) would have frightened people off experimenting with mass immigration.

However no, this argument goes, mass immigration should be welcomed because savage Ulster Prods would not like it therefore it must be good.

The joke's on the welcoming then

A tribal, nationalist people would understand the clusterfuck that is mass immigration, unlike their lobotimised Marxist counterparts

One of the worst things for me about savage Ulster Prods is their "the Fenians are agin it therefore we must be for it" line of argumentation. Another thing is that at least on P.ie a lot of people making this argument were "West Brits".

 

[SwordOfStZip]

The joke's on the welcoming then

A tribal, nationalist people would understand the clusterfuck that is mass immigration, unlike their lobotimised Marxist counterparts

LOL....taking up Marxism in a serious way- I don't take the Marxism of the IRSP/INLA seriously- has been kinda a Prod thing in terms of Nordie land. The Communist Party in the six counties is almost entirely Prod and seen as ethnically Prod (yes it is Republican in that it advocates a 32 county Republic outside of the UK and EU). The Shinners contained Marxists during the 1980s but we are a long way from that time now and they were never Marxist as such.

 

[AN2]

LOL....taking up Marxism in a serious way- I don't take the Marxism of the IRSP/INLA seriously- has been kinda a Prod thing in terms of Nordie land. The Communist Party in the six counties is almost entirely Prod and seen as ethnically Prod (yes it is Republican in that it advocates a 32 county Republic outside of the UK and EU). The Shinners contained Marxists during the 1980s but we are a long way from that time now and they were never Marxist as such.

The Shinners are of course Marxist/Communist/Socialist, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to pull their head out of their ass

I laugh when people (still) think of them as nationalists, the one thing that they're obviously doing now (if you want to damn them with faint praise) is being ideologically true to themselves - anti-nationalist, anti-Irish and anti-white

 

[SwordOfStZip]

The Shinners are of course Marxist/Communist/Socialist, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to pull their head out of their ass

I laugh when people (still) think of them as nationalists, the one thing they're obviously doing now (if you want to damn them with faint praise) is being ideologically true to themselves - anti-nationalist, anti-Irish and anti-white

Okay- where do the Shinners advocate the public ownership of all the means of production and distribution?

I never claimed that the Shinners were Nationalist and my understanding of that term would be a lot boarder than yours because I do not believe that they are such.

 

[AN2]

Okay- where do the Shinners advocate the public ownership of all the means of production and distribution?

I never claimed that the Shinners were Nationalist and my understanding of that term would be a lot boarder than yours because I do not believe that they are such.

A 32 county socialist republic

In fairness, they've told us since the beginning what they are

 

[SwordOfStZip]

A 32 county socialist republic

In fairness, they've told us since the beginning what they are

Socialism means something- it means the common ownership of the means of production and distribution. Tadgh was a Socialist and he was one because he advocated that. The Shinners never advocated such.

 

[AN2]

Socialism means something- it means the common ownership of the means of production and distribution. Tadgh was a Socialist and he was one because he advocated that. The Shinners never advocated such.

Well then what does a 32 county socialist republic mean?

Tadhg was a deeply confused man, who hadn't any understanding that communism is the antithesis to nationalism

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Well then what does a 32 county socialist republic mean?

Tadhg was a deeply confused man, who hadn't any understanding that communism is the antithesis to nationalism

It was a sop for outside support and their own Left.

LOL....A lot of Libertarians have argued that Socialism implies Nationalism and I think solidly.

One of the reasons I believe Fine Gael has had mass immigration here is to destroy the possibility of Socialism.

 

[Declan]

Every party in ireland with a TD is socialist and with the possible exception of paddy quinlan, so is most every county councilor as well

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Every party in ireland with a TD is socialist and with the possible exception of paddy quinlan, so is most every county councilor as well

How so?

 

[AN2]

It was a sop for outside support and their own Left.

A standard operating procedure is for Marxists to hijack nationalist causes

LOL....A lot of Libertarians have argued that Socialism implies Nationalism and I think solidly.

A lot of people think that National Socialism is socialism

One of the reasons I believe Fine Gael has had mass immigration here is to destroy the possibility of Socialism.

As it's often been said, you can't have open borders and socialism, not in the nationalist sense. Any politician who thinks otherwise is either hopelessly inept or a liar. Personally, I don't care either way, when it comes to them being put in the dock (for the crime of treason)

 

[SwordOfStZip]

A standard operating procedure is for Marxists to hijack nationalist causes


A lot of people think that National Socialism is socialism


As it's often been said, you can't have open borders and socialism, not in the nationalist sense. Any politician who thinks otherwise is either hopelessly inept or a liar. Personally, I don't care either way, when it comes to them being put in the dock (for the crime of treason)

Uh no Marxism has a complex relationship with Nationalism going back to Marx himself. Tadgh remember could find support for his positions in Marx and Lenin.

The NSDAP used the word Socialism very similarly to how the Shinners.

Do you realize that I advocate a total halt to mass immigration and believe that it should not have been started?

 

[AN2]

Uh no Marxism has a complex relationship with Nationalism going back to Marx himself. Tadgh remember could find support for his positions in Marx and Lenin.

Marxism is the antithesis of nationalism

It's open borders class struggle (originally), it has nothing to advocate for the nation

I know your sympathies but you really need to cop on to yourself

The NSDAP used the word Socialism very similarly to how the Shinners.

lol

Do you realize that I advocate a total halt to mass immigration and believe that it should not have been started?

Stop being a Marxist then

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Marxism is the antithesis of nationalism

It's open borders class struggle, it has nothing to advocate for the nation

I know your sympathies but you really need to cope on to yourself


lol


Stop being a Marxist then

Okay first things first- I am not a Marxist. I have never been a Marxist. I do though value Marx as a sociologist.

Yes people have common interests with others outside their Nations- is saying that the opposite of Nationalism?

 

[AN2]

Okay first things first- I am not a Marxist. I have never been a Marxist. I do though value Marx as a sociologist.

Political sociologists should be at the bottom of the ocean (followed closely by lawyers)

Yes people have common interests with others outside their Nations- is saying that the opposite of Nationalism?

If it's to the detriment of the nation, then yes, of course

 

[SwordOfStZip]

If it's to the detriment of the nation, then yes, of course

You that there are people who would see your White Nationalism as being to the detriment of the Irish Nation?

 

[AN2]

You that there are people who would see your White Nationalism as being to the detriment of the Irish Nation?

I shudder to think why you think that's the case but nevertheless, if you could unpack that for me please..

 

[SwordOfStZip]

I shudder to think why you think that's the case but nevertheless, if you could unpack that for me please..

Well @PlunkettsGhost might have views on this for instance.

 

[AN2]

Well @PlunkettsGhost might have views on this for instance.

Huh, wha?

Don't pass the buck, what do you think, what do you think Plunketts thinks?

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Huh, wha?

Don't pass the buck, what do you think, what do you think Plunketts thinks?

Okay I find Australians gross, I don't want to deal with them and think the best future for Australia would be China taking it over.

I don't want Gaels or Ulster Scots replaced by Poles or Czechs.

I prefer Filipinos to Poles or Czechs though I do not want Gaels or Ulster Scots replaced by them either.

 

[AN2]

Okay I find Australians gross

You find Australians gross, I thought it was just @Fishalt?

I don't want to deal with them and think the best future for Australia would be China taking it over.

You want a white country taken over by the Chinese?

I don't want Gaels or Ulster Scots replaced by Poles or Czechs.

I prefer Filipinos to Poles or Czechs though I do not want Gaels or Ulster Scots replaced by them either.

You'd prefer white people being replaced by non-whites?

I think that you're profoundly deracinated. Same as any other leftist

 

[willows68]

Okay I find Australians gross, I don't want to deal with them and think the best future for Australia would be China taking it over.

I don't want Gaels or Ulster Scots replaced by Poles or Czechs.

I prefer Filipinos to Poles or Czechs though I do not want Gaels or Ulster Scots replaced by them either.

You may get your wish. The chicoms could take over in the morning if they wanted. Pine Ridge or not.
Shocking statement re the rest. Shocking.

 

[PlunkettsGhost]

Well @PlunkettsGhost might have views on this for instance.

'huwhite' nationalism is not Irish nationalism. Simple as. In fact I'm not sure where this land of the whites is on a map? Nowhere it seems. A kind of Utopia. (Utopia means nowhere btw)

 

[AN2]

'huwhite' nationalism is not Irish nationalism. Simple as. In fact I'm not sure where this land of the whites is on a map? Nowhere it seems. A kind of Utopia. (Utopia means nowhere btw)

^ This guy is a Catholic who thinks that the Earth is flat (not to mention a yank pretending to be Irish) so don't expect him to have any more of a clue about what nationalism is than @Tiger does

 

[AN2]

If anyone here thinks that the Irish are a distinct race from say, the Scottish, as Plunketts and @scolairebocht do, then fine

But you aren't talking sensibly about a biological or taxonomical reality, perhaps an archaic one

If you think that what's happening in Ireland is unique to Ireland (and not other white countries), then you can't see beyond your nose

 

[PlunkettsGhost]

If anyone here thinks that the Irish are a distinct race from say, the Scottish, as Plunketts and @scolairebocht do, then fine

But you aren't talking sensibly about a biological or taxonomical reality, perhaps an archaic one

If you think that what's happening in Ireland is unique to Ireland (and not other white countries), then you can't see beyond your nose

Why compare Scotts and Irish?? Same genetics of course, it's a false dichotomy therefore. Why not compare the Irish and the Finns? Much more divergent there. Or if we are being race realists, why not make the distinction between the Japanese and the Irish? Clear racial differences there, no? Denying the Irish their racial status is working for the enemy in fact.

 

[PlunkettsGhost]

If you think that what's happening in Ireland is unique to Ireland (and not other white countries), then you can't see beyond your nose

The fact that Kabbalistic replacement is being foisted on the various races of Europe in no way diminishes the reality of said racial status. Bonkers to suggest otherwise. And as we have our own pressing issues, as you point out, we can't really be worried about anyone else now, can we? Keep your eyes on the ball folks.

And there are plans afoot to replace the Japanese also. They are a harder nut to crack however. Paddy has proven a pushover

 

[AUL LAD]

Okay- where do the Shinners advocate the public ownership of all the means of production and distribution?

I never claimed that the Shinners were Nationalist and my understanding of that term would be a lot boarder than yours because I do not believe that they are such.

You do not understand socialism --you are trained to identify it as Marxism this nutcase practice gives the ownership of ALL wealth not just the financial wealth to a COMMITTEE .
please observe COMMI----ttie .
i have been to the famous Moscow GUM department store just for the COMMI where basic luxury items are priced in thousands of dollars as it does not matter what they cost the COMMI have billions of THE PEOPLES WEALTH --i saw them in action i know how it works --its just a scam another scam where Jews /Commi unists will kill by the million to enslave us.
true socialism was practiced in Germany and it involved SOCIETY not the committee receiving the wealth of the state by banning usury --which ordinary people think is impossible .
just type private non interest Jewish loans in the USA .
now you will see that the Jewish people do not put up with their own bullshit they TAKE MEASURES --SOCIALIST MEASURES TO KEEP THE WEALTH AMONGST THE PEOPLE --this is socialism in practice --it does work just watch the bastards get away with it in front of your face .
Hitler died owing a dog and a house --probably the only world leader to do so.

 

[céline]

What are the views on the Jewish question by Ulster Prodestants?

If they're not opposing the Jews then I can understand why you would prefer immigration.

 

[AN2]

Why compare Scotts and Irish?? Same genetics of course, it's a false dichotomy therefore.

To illustrate (the absurdity of) your position. If the Irish are a distinct race to the Scots (one 't' in Scots) then, according to you, there are as many races as there are nationalities or countries. I've said this to you before but you never seem to understand what I'm saying

Why not compare the Irish and the Finns?

Why not indeed. They're the same race

Much more divergent there. Or if we are being race realists, why not make the distinction between the Japanese and the Irish? Clear racial differences there, no?

Yes, Europeans (White people) and Asians are distinct races

Denying the Irish their racial status is working for the enemy in fact.

I don't think that the Irish have a racial status (unto themselves) but how is denying it "working for the enemy"?

 

[AN2]

The fact that Kabbalistic replacement is being foisted on the various races of Europe in no way diminishes the reality of said racial status. Bonkers to suggest otherwise. And as we have our own pressing issues, as you point out, we can't really be worried about anyone else now, can we? Keep your eyes on the ball folks.

An alternative term for replacment is white genocide

Presumably that make no sense to you, you wouldn't have a clue what anyone who used the term was talking about?

 

[PlunkettsGhost]

I don't think that the Irish have a racial status (unto themselves) but how is denying it "working for the enemy"?

Nations are established and maintained by the races that founded them. De-racialization is part-n-parcel of the program of denationalization. The Swedes did not found the Irish nation, its language or culture.

 

[Fishalt]

You find Australians gross, I thought it was just @Fishalt?


You want a white country taken over by the Chinese?


You'd prefer white people being replaced by non-whites?

I think that you're profoundly deracinated. Same as any other leftist

She hates me, dude.

Doesn't change the fact that s/he's the worst moderator I've ever seen.

 

[AN2]

I don't think that the Irish have a racial status (unto themselves) but how is denying it "working for the enemy"?

Nations are established and maintained by the races that founded them. De-racialization is part-n-parcel of the program of denationalization. The Swedes did not found the Irish nation, its language or culture.

Does anyone know WTF Plunketts is talking about?

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Nations are established and maintained by the races that founded them. De-racialization is part-n-parcel of the program of denationalization. The Swedes did not found the Irish nation, its language or culture.

To be a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant or a Gaelic Catholic is to be something. To be "huwhite" is to be basically not to be something for example not to be Black.

 

[PlunkettsGhost]

An alternative term for replacment is white genocide

When Britons killed off half the Irish population, was that 'huwhite' genocide or was there an actual racial animus at work?

 

[AN2]

When Britons killed off half the Irish population, was that 'huwhite' genocide or was there an actual racial animus at work?

If replacement was only happening in Ireland it wouldn't be called white genocide

Do you know why it's called white genocide?