"Tommy Robinson" arrested at "March Against Antisemitism" Rally.

[Anderson]

Who's not a criminal or a scammer?

You make no sense.

remigration is a pipe dream, its not going to happen. THe Irish far right cant even get a unified voice, its a rag tag of people with no central ideology, cohesion or sense of purpose.

 

[Wolf]

Your point is mute, the child is still half Irish.

Facts aren't 'mute'.
The African male seldom takes care of his offspring and it's left to us taxpayers to pick up the tab.

 

[Anderson]

Facts aren't 'mute'.
The African male seldom takes care of his offspring and it's left to us taxpayers to pick up the tab.

The Facts are you would deport a half Irish child.

How Irish do you need to be in order to be Irish or live in Ireland?

 

[AN2]

You make no sense.

remigration is a pipe dream, its not going to happen. THe Irish far right cant even get a unified voice, its a rag tag of people with no central ideology, cohesion or sense of purpose.

Are you not in favour of remigration because it's a "pipe dream" or because you just aren't?

 

[Anderson]

Are you not in favour of remigration because it's a "pipe dream" or because you just aren't?

I have no issue remigration, however I dont think its a one brush paints all approach. There are many families who came here in the 80`s who are foreign and yet are perfect members of soceity.

There are also the scenarios say with people who have married foreigners and have children.

It would need to be a fair system, but certianly anyone since the 2000`s I would certainly quesition.

 

[AN2]

I have no issue remigration, however I dont think its a one brush paints all approach.

Well it basically is. You should say - "I don't support remigration."

There are many families who came here in the 80`s who are foreign and yet are perfect members of soceity.

There are also the scenarios say with people who have married foreigners and have children.

It would need to be a fair system, but certianly anyone since the 2000`s I would certainly quesition.

 

[Anderson]

Well it basically is. You should say - "I don't support remigration."

So does remmigration involve splitting up families?

 

[AN2]

So does remmigration involve splitting up families?

What kind of a parent wouldn't go with their kid?!

 

[Anderson]

What kind of a parent wouldn't go with their kid?!

So you are saying the Irish parent has to leave if they want to be with their kid?

 

[AN2]

So you are saying the Irish parent has to leave if they want to be with their kid?

No, I said that it would be unusual for them not to want to be with their kid

 

[Anderson]

No, I said that it would be unusual for them not to want to be with their kid

Ok, but for your remigration to work, would it require the Irish parent to leave with their foreign partner and half-Irish child?

 

[AN2]

Ok, but for your remigration to work,

Why is it mine?

would it require the Irish parent to leave with their foreign partner and half-Irish child?

Remigration wouldn't apply to natives so that would be up to them, wouldn't it

 

[Anderson]

Why is it mine?


Remigration wouldn't apply to natives so that would be up to them, wouldn't it

So you agree with me then, half Irish children can stay and so can their foreign born parent.

 

[AN2]

So you agree with me then, half Irish children can stay and so can their foreign born parent.

I'm not sure where you got that from, a "native" would be an Irish person

 

[willows68]

I'm not sure where you got that from, a "native" would be an Irish person

And therein lies a substantial part of the problem. Remigration by all means - especially singles. But when it comes to half- Irish or even no Irish but born here 30 years ago? Do they have to leave? Where do we draw the line while retaining our kind and welcoming nature?
The practicalities need careful consideration.
My own take is that we should only give any state benefit including housing to those who have contributed 10 years or longer.
Cap child benefit to 2.
Deport anyone who arrived without passport immediately, detaining them in a facility until their deportation date.
Deport any foreigner who commits a crime including traffic violations.
Ban public display of religiosity other than Christianity.
Stop all immigration for 10 years until we sort this mess.
It could be done if only we stopped benefit and housing - they leave after one week in November.

 

[AN2]

And therein lies a substantial part of the problem. Remigration by all means - especially singles. But when it comes to half- Irish or even no Irish but born here 30 years ago?

30 years ago Ireland was more or less a homogeneous country, certainly in terms of race

Do they have to leave? Where do we draw the line while retaining our kind and welcoming nature?

I couldn't give a toss about that tbh

The practicalities need careful consideration.

Well, as @Anderson says, it's only a pipe dream..

My own take is that we should only give any state benefit including housing to those who have contributed 10 years or longer.
Cap child benefit to 2.
Deport anyone who arrived without passport immediately, detaining them in a facility until their deportation date.
Deport any foreigner who commits a crime including traffic violations.
Ban public display of religiosity other than Christianity.
Stop all immigration for 10 years until we sort this mess.
It could be done if only we stopped benefit and housing - they leave after one week in November.

I think the message of remigration needs to be a radical one. It's about demographics at the end of the day

 

[Hermit]

It’s nearly impossible to remove everyone with a foreign background.

Forget about the practical logistics of removing them for a moment and tell me do you want Africans, Indians, Arabs, Roma etc in Ireland? If you could push a magic button to deport them all, would you do it?

Anderson, you have decided to voluntarily deport yourself from Ireland. I think we could convince many immigrants, through peaceful and non-peaceful means, to self-deport also.

@Myles O'Reilly I put the same question to you. Would you deport them all if you could?

Do you remove your GP?

Yes, especially if he's Indian or African.

Do you remove those who are half-Irish, born to one Irish and one foreign parent?
Do you remove those married to an Irish person?

I would show some leniency in these rare cases.

Do you remove EU citizens who have the legal right to stay?

Yes. If Ireland were to leave the EU those rights would no longer apply. EU citizens (European people) are not the problem, although I would like to see a reduction in their number.

And what about those who have lived here for generations—long before mass, uncontrolled immigration—the ones who actually contributed to our country?

I don't care what they have "contributed", this isn't about that, but to answer the question, I think some of those should be allowed to stay, but they are small in number. There were hardly any immigrants here until the late 90s.

Bringing up these outlier examples is similar to people who argue for unlimited abortion based on the hard cases of rape.

 

[AN2]

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[Myles O'Reilly]

Forget about the practical logistics of removing them for a moment .

What kind of dreamland have you and James awoken from Sir?

 

[AN2]

Forget about the practical logistics of removing them for a moment and tell me do you want Africans, Indians, Arabs, Roma etc in Ireland? If you could push a magic button to deport them all, would you do it?

Anderson, you have decided to voluntarily deport yourself from Ireland. I think we could convince many immigrants, through peaceful and non-peaceful means, to self-deport also.

@Myles O'Reilly I put the same question to you. Would you deport them all if you could?

Note: neither of them answered

 

[Hermit]

What kind of dreamland have you and James awoken from Sir?

Do you want Africans, Indians, Arabs, Roma etc in Ireland? Yes or No.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

If you could push a magic button.

That about sums up your electoral chances Hermit.

 

[AN2]

That about sums up your electoral chances Hermit.

You're not being asked about "electoral chances", you're being asked for your opinion, why won't you give it?

 

[Anderson]

Forget about the practical logistics of removing them for a moment and tell me do you want Africans, Indians, Arabs, Roma etc in Ireland? If you could push a magic button to deport them all, would you do it?

Anderson, you have decided to voluntarily deport yourself from Ireland. I think we could convince many immigrants, through peaceful and non-peaceful means, to self-deport also.

@Myles O'Reilly I put the same question to you. Would you deport them all if you could?


Yes, especially if he's Indian or African.


I would show some leniency in these rare cases.


Yes. If Ireland were to leave the EU those rights would no longer apply. EU citizens (European people) are not the problem, although I would like to see a reduction in their number.


I don't care what they have "contributed", this isn't about that, but to answer the question, I think some of those should be allowed to stay, but they are small in number. There were hardly any immigrants here until the late 90s.

Bringing up these outlier examples is similar to people who argue for unlimited abortion based on the hard cases of rape.

Would I make Ireland Irish again, of course I would. Im just realistic to understand that this isn just about kicking out all foreign nationals though.

We all know the scammers who have come here, they are the ones who need removing first.

 

[AN2]

Would I make Ireland Irish again, of course I would. Im just realistic to understand that this isn just about kicking out all foreign nationals though.

How would "Ireland be made Irish again", in your opinion?

We all know the scammers who have come here, they are the ones who need removing first.

Who's next?

 

[Anderson]

How would "Ireland be made Irish again", in your opinion?


Who's next?

We need to return to our historical Christian and Irish culture and traditions, and enshrine certain things such as this in a new Irish amendment to our existing Constitution.

No mosques, for instance – only Christianity.

I would amend our laws so that only Irish people receive housing and benefits, etc. Any asylum seeker who comes here under a much tougher asylum status would only be considered a guest and never given citizenship. I would also review every citizenship granted over the past 20 years; anyone not married to an Irish person, and still married to them, would have their citizenship revoked.

I believe if we did this, many would leave anyway.

 

[AN2]

We need to return to our historical Christian and Irish culture and traditions, and enshrine certain things such as this in a new Irish amendment to our existing Constitution.

No mosques, for instance – only Christianity.

I would amend our laws so that only Irish people receive housing and benefits, etc. Any asylum seeker who comes here under a much tougher asylum status would only be considered a guest and never given citizenship. I would also review every citizenship granted over the past 20 years; anyone not married to an Irish person, and still married to them, would have their citizenship revoked.

I believe if we did this, many would leave anyway.

Remigration is a bit snappier though, isn't it

Btw, I don't really see how your proposals are that much less of a pipe dream. You'd have to break various different treaties were in, deny freedom of religion, make people stateless and, most of all, I don't really see how your proposals would make Ireland Irish again 30 years down the line..

 

[Anderson]

Remigration is a bit snappier though, isn't it

Btw, I don't really see how your proposals are that much less of a pipe dream. You'd have to break various different treaties were in, deny freedom of religion, make people stateless and, most of all, I don't really see how your proposals would make Ireland Irish again 30 years down the line..

Indeed, its all a pipe dream.

The so called Irish right cant even get their act togeather, splintered off into various groups all fighting one another.

Its obious to anyone at this stage we have no real democracy, marches do nothing.

I have said it for a while, Ireland is lost, Europe is lost. The only thing any of us can do is to make the best of what time we have left on this planet.

 

[AN2]

Indeed, its all a pipe dream.

The so called Irish right cant even get their act togeather, splintered off into various groups all fighting one another.

Its obious to anyone at this stage we have no real democracy, marches do nothing.

I have said it for a while, Ireland is lost, Europe is lost. The only thing any of us can do is to make the best of what time we have left on this planet.

The Irish right are mostly anti-nationalist, a dire situation indeed

 

[AN2]

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

You're not being asked about "electoral chances", you're being asked for your opinion, why won't you give it?

My dreamland opinion?

Would I prefer Ireland to have no "Africans, Indians, Arabs, Roma etc" in Ireland as Hermit asks?

Well the "etc" piece would have to be expanded upon. As for the others my life was saved by Indian nurses along with Irish and indeed a couple of born and raised black "Irish" girls. So its kind of a daft question when you put it into practice.

Its even stupider still when you think you can just deport everybody without the entire economy collapsing. Apart from the impossible execution of these deportation orders, if you could just vanish them into a puff of smoke it'd take only a fortnight for food shortages in the shops, mass inflation, riots, and a complete breakdown in society.

Are you two imbeciles for real?

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

The practicalities need careful consideration.

These two don't deal in practicalities. They're a pair of Walter Mitty type characters who presumably use this place to escape from real life.

 

[AN2]

My dreamland opinion?

Would I prefer Ireland to have no "Africans, Indians, Arabs, Roma etc" in Ireland as Hermit asks?

Well the "etc" piece would have to be expanded upon. As for the others my life was saved by Indian nurses along with Irish and indeed a couple of born and raised black "Irish" girls. So its kind of a daft question when you put it into practice.

Its even stupider still when you think you can just deport everybody without the entire economy collapsing. Apart from the impossible execution of these deportation orders, if you could just vanish them into a puff of smoke it'd take only a fortnight for food shortages in the shops, mass inflation, riots, and a complete breakdown in society.

Are you two imbeciles for real?

I don't think that the "magic button" idea was to be taken literally, it was an effort to get you to voice an actual opinion (instead of hiding behind "practicalities" and/or chances of "electoral success")

Other than that, your post reminded me of a Telegram post that I read recently..

PS. You and Sham Fox (@Sound Man) should get a room, you seem to have similar views on this issue (although I don't think Sham likes Tommeh very much)

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

I don't think that the "magic button" idea was to be taken literally, it was an effort to get you to voice an actual opinion (instead of hiding behind "practicalities" and/or chances of "electoral success")

What you call "an opinion" everybody else (with the exception perhaps of Hermit) calls dreamland.

WTF does it matter if I wanted all Indians gone? Its never going to happen, child.

Grow up.

 

[AN2]

What you call "an opinion" everybody else (with the exception perhaps of Hermit) calls dreamland.

WTF does it matter if I wanted all Indians gone? Its never going to happen, child.

Grow up.

Why do you keep on repeating this stupidity - It's not going to happen therefore my opinion (which I won't be straightforward about) doesn't matter

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

But that is my opinion. In a make believe World would it be better if Ireland had remained 99% Irish? YES!

However I don't believe in the Tooth Fairy nor do I believe in your madcap idea that you can deport every foreigner from here.

I can't be clearer than that, Walter.

 

[AN2]

But that is my opinion. In a make believe World would it be better if Ireland had remained 99% Irish? YES!

What was make believe about it?

However I don't believe in the Tooth Fairy nor do I believe in your madcap idea that you can deport every foreigner from here.

I can't be clearer than that, Walter.

Why do you keep on coming back to the same things

Why don't you just say that you don't support remigration (no one really cares about your excuses)

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

You're an idiot.

 

[AN2]

IF TR was PM..

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I honestly can't see the difference

 

[AN2]

You're an idiot.

lol Do you support remigration?

The following are not valid answers;

But it'll never happen
But the economy would collapse
But the black Irish nurses saved Mylo's life
etc.