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Who's not a criminal or a scammer?
You make no sense.

remigration is a pipe dream, its not going to happen. THe Irish far right cant even get a unified voice, its a rag tag of people with no central ideology, cohesion or sense of purpose.
 

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Facts aren't 'mute'.
The African male seldom takes care of his offspring and it's left to us taxpayers to pick up the tab.
The Facts are you would deport a half Irish child.

How Irish do you need to be in order to be Irish or live in Ireland?
 

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You make no sense.

remigration is a pipe dream, its not going to happen. THe Irish far right cant even get a unified voice, its a rag tag of people with no central ideology, cohesion or sense of purpose.
Are you not in favour of remigration because it's a "pipe dream" or because you just aren't?
 

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Are you not in favour of remigration because it's a "pipe dream" or because you just aren't?
I have no issue remigration, however I dont think its a one brush paints all approach. There are many families who came here in the 80`s who are foreign and yet are perfect members of soceity.

There are also the scenarios say with people who have married foreigners and have children.

It would need to be a fair system, but certianly anyone since the 2000`s I would certainly quesition.
 

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I have no issue remigration, however I dont think its a one brush paints all approach.
Well it basically is. You should say - "I don't support remigration."

There are many families who came here in the 80`s who are foreign and yet are perfect members of soceity.

There are also the scenarios say with people who have married foreigners and have children.

It would need to be a fair system, but certianly anyone since the 2000`s I would certainly quesition.
 

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No, I said that it would be unusual for them not to want to be with their kid
Ok, but for your remigration to work, would it require the Irish parent to leave with their foreign partner and half-Irish child?
 

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Why is it mine?


Remigration wouldn't apply to natives so that would be up to them, wouldn't it
So you agree with me then, half Irish children can stay and so can their foreign born parent.
 

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So you agree with me then, half Irish children can stay and so can their foreign born parent.
I'm not sure where you got that from, a "native" would be an Irish person
 

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I'm not sure where you got that from, a "native" would be an Irish person
And therein lies a substantial part of the problem. Remigration by all means - especially singles. But when it comes to half- Irish or even no Irish but born here 30 years ago? Do they have to leave? Where do we draw the line while retaining our kind and welcoming nature?
The practicalities need careful consideration.
My own take is that we should only give any state benefit including housing to those who have contributed 10 years or longer.
Cap child benefit to 2.
Deport anyone who arrived without passport immediately, detaining them in a facility until their deportation date.
Deport any foreigner who commits a crime including traffic violations.
Ban public display of religiosity other than Christianity.
Stop all immigration for 10 years until we sort this mess.
It could be done if only we stopped benefit and housing - they leave after one week in November.
 

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And therein lies a substantial part of the problem. Remigration by all means - especially singles. But when it comes to half- Irish or even no Irish but born here 30 years ago?
30 years ago Ireland was more or less a homogeneous country, certainly in terms of race

Do they have to leave? Where do we draw the line while retaining our kind and welcoming nature?
I couldn't give a toss about that tbh

The practicalities need careful consideration.
Well, as @Anderson says, it's only a pipe dream..

My own take is that we should only give any state benefit including housing to those who have contributed 10 years or longer.
Cap child benefit to 2.
Deport anyone who arrived without passport immediately, detaining them in a facility until their deportation date.
Deport any foreigner who commits a crime including traffic violations.
Ban public display of religiosity other than Christianity.
Stop all immigration for 10 years until we sort this mess.
It could be done if only we stopped benefit and housing - they leave after one week in November.
I think the message of remigration needs to be a radical one. It's about demographics at the end of the day
 

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It’s nearly impossible to remove everyone with a foreign background.
Forget about the practical logistics of removing them for a moment and tell me do you want Africans, Indians, Arabs, Roma etc in Ireland? If you could push a magic button to deport them all, would you do it?

Anderson, you have decided to voluntarily deport yourself from Ireland. I think we could convince many immigrants, through peaceful and non-peaceful means, to self-deport also.

@Myles O'Reilly I put the same question to you. Would you deport them all if you could?

Do you remove your GP?
Yes, especially if he's Indian or African.

Do you remove those who are half-Irish, born to one Irish and one foreign parent?
Do you remove those married to an Irish person?
I would show some leniency in these rare cases.

Do you remove EU citizens who have the legal right to stay?
Yes. If Ireland were to leave the EU those rights would no longer apply. EU citizens (European people) are not the problem, although I would like to see a reduction in their number.

And what about those who have lived here for generations—long before mass, uncontrolled immigration—the ones who actually contributed to our country?
I don't care what they have "contributed", this isn't about that, but to answer the question, I think some of those should be allowed to stay, but they are small in number. There were hardly any immigrants here until the late 90s.

Bringing up these outlier examples is similar to people who argue for unlimited abortion based on the hard cases of rape.
 

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Forget about the practical logistics of removing them for a moment and tell me do you want Africans, Indians, Arabs, Roma etc in Ireland? If you could push a magic button to deport them all, would you do it?

Anderson, you have decided to voluntarily deport yourself from Ireland. I think we could convince many immigrants, through peaceful and non-peaceful means, to self-deport also.

@Myles O'Reilly I put the same question to you. Would you deport them all if you could?
Note: neither of them answered
 

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