A Possible Energy Shutdown?

scolairebocht said:
There really is no question about it now, an energy lockdown is coming, probably sometime between 1 week and 2 months from now and could last years. That is:

- quotas on the amount of fuel you are allowed, and restrictions on travel, both on land and the air.

- a compulsory app that will police this and it will include at times the army and gardai on forecourts.

- non essential schools, businesses and maybe Churches, closed.

- basically it might bleed into the whole 15 minute city, permanent open prison carbon zero environment they have been long since planning.
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Not sure how any of this will be justified with Trump boasting that America is producing more oil than Saudi Arabia and Russia combined. It will be only too obvious that any shortage is politically induced rather than an actual absence of sufficient supplies.
 
scolairebocht said:
There really is no question about it now, an energy lockdown is coming, probably sometime between 1 week and 2 months from now and could last years.
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I hope you are wrong. But they are certainly beating the drum for it.

Any suggestions on stopping it?

A lot of people blaming the Israelis, via Trump. If it wasn't for the Israelis, Trump wouldn't be doing it.

A peaceful protest, with braided Christ-style whips outside the Dublin synagogue, blaming the israelis for the price of oil? It would be great to do, it would be very effective, but it would be dangerous. They would probably open fire with their legally held weapons, kill everybody and get exonerated by the Gardai.

Publicly mentioning the Jewish link to the shortages would be a good thing to do, where it is safe to do. Lots, maybe most, people can see it now. But of course most people are terrified.

The other option is to arrange informal supplies from the Russians. Harris thinks that is disgusting, but Trump says it is OK. Can someone contact the Rooskies and get a price for delivery in 5 litre cans, on a moonless night a mile off the coast?

We should ask our contacts in the Garda Sicini if they have heard anything.
 
As long as he grabs the pussy, it will be dandy.
 
Remember there was an attack on the Russian oil infrastructure too recently.

Absolutely this is all planned, planned by the Occult to keep us under their thumb but its also clever, you can protest as much as you like but how will we get fuel with probably the army and police watching the few supplies that will be allowed in?
 
Maybe if there is a boycott of that app and whatever digital control structures they introduce...
 
Diarmuid said:
I hope you are wrong. But they are certainly beating the drum for it.

Any suggestions on stopping it?

A lot of people blaming the Israelis, via Trump. If it wasn't for the Israelis, Trump wouldn't be doing it.

A peaceful protest, with braided Christ-style whips outside the Dublin synagogue, blaming the israelis for the price of oil? It would be great to do, it would be very effective, but it would be dangerous. They would probably open fire with their legally held weapons, kill everybody and get exonerated by the Gardai.

Publicly mentioning the Jewish link to the shortages would be a good thing to do, where it is safe to do. Lots, maybe most, people can see it now. But of course most people are terrified.

The other option is to arrange informal supplies from the Russians. Harris thinks that is disgusting, but Trump says it is OK. Can someone contact the Rooskies and get a price for delivery in 5 litre cans, on a moonless night a mile off the coast?

We should ask our contacts in the Garda Sicini if they have heard anything.
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scolairebocht said:
Maybe if there is a boycott of that app and whatever digital control structures they introduce...
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This is Ireland. Its nearly full of Irish people. They love their phones and they love the apps on their phones. That along with their complete servility to foreign authority bred into them over 800 years means that they will enthusiastically comply and will happily do their part to save a wee drop of diesel so the nurses can get their work to practise for their latest motivational dance video.
 
Tut, tut, tut. A very defeatist attitude. You do realise there is a war on? Defeatism leads to defeat and is often punishable by execution. Geneva convention allows it.

Plenty of Irish, myself included, don't even have a mobile phone. Many who are addicted to their phones hate their phones. This upcoming crackdown is a great time for people to smile sweetly when asked to put the app on and say: Oh I gave up my mobile phone. They give you cancer, sterilise your children, report your every move to the Yiddish speakers and the cobalt in them is partly mined by actual Negro boy slaves in the Congo. Black lives matter, a mhac!

New Gaelic word heard on RnaG le deanai: Ciondáil. Rationing.
 
Diarmuid said:
Tut, tut, tut. A very defeatist attitude. You do realise there is a war on? Defeatism leads to defeat and is often punishable by execution. Geneva convention allows it.

Plenty of Irish, myself included, don't even have a mobile phone. Many who are addicted to their phones hate their phones. This upcoming crackdown is a great time for people to smile sweetly when asked to put the app on and say: Oh I gave up my mobile phone. They give you cancer, sterilise your children, report your every move to the Yiddish speakers and the cobalt in them is partly mined by actual Negro boy slaves in the Congo. Black lives matter, a mhac!

New Gaelic word heard on RnaG le deanai: Ciondáil. Rationing.
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Naive. If you have to scan your QR code to get your diesel ration, then people will do it. And overwhelming majority will go right along with it.
 
A quarter of us did not go with the Covid nonsense. Half of the vaccinated regret it and don't want to repeat. They will have to allow some non-mobile phone way to get your ration.

There is a clear majority that are not onboard with whatever The Next Thing is. Please change your defeatist tone. Do you have any constructive suggestions, even the tiniest?

You have a mobile phone, I take it, and you carry it constantly near you. Is it possible that your phone is influencing your mind and promoting this defeatist attitude?

Here's a constructive suggestion. There are about 25,000 Garda Sicini and Army. When they put them in the petrol stations, we can very quickly, and perfectly legally, assemble a much bigger crowd, with all sorts of heavy machinery. We do a citizen's arrest, strip them naked, smash the windows in their cars and send them back to HQ with a simple message: Remigration now, please.
 
Diarmuid said:
A quarter of us did not go with the Covid nonsense. Half of the vaccinated regret it and don't want to repeat. They will have to allow some non-mobile phone way to get your ration.

There is a clear majority that are not onboard with whatever The Next Thing is. Please change your defeatist tone. Do you have any constructive suggestions, even the tiniest?

You have a mobile phone, I take it, and you carry it constantly near you. Is it possible that your phone is influencing your mind and promoting this defeatist attitude?

Here's a constructive suggestion. There are about 25,000 Garda Sicini and Army. When they put them in the petrol stations, we can very quickly, and perfectly legally, assemble a much bigger crowd, with all sorts of heavy machinery. We do a citizen's arrest, strip them naked, smash the windows in their cars and send them back to HQ with a simple message: Remigration now, please.
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The people had the opportunity to vote for Remigration representatives without the need for all the hysterics. They didnt.

The Garda have handled all the street protest without the need for the Army etc.

All the truckers, bus drivers and builders are going to lead the charge because of the diesel prices?

Are the diesel prices going affect the profits they got from building IPAS centres, or bussing the planters to the IPAS centres or will hauliers still be able to employ foreign drivers?

Ireland is now going to be saved by the normies who have gone along with every WEF measure thus far?
 
Diarmuid said:
I hope you are wrong. But they are certainly beating the drum for it.

Any suggestions on stopping it?

A lot of people blaming the Israelis, via Trump. If it wasn't for the Israelis, Trump wouldn't be doing it.

A peaceful protest, with braided Christ-style whips outside the Dublin synagogue, blaming the israelis for the price of oil? It would be great to do, it would be very effective, but it would be dangerous. They would probably open fire with their legally held weapons, kill everybody and get exonerated by the Gardai.

Publicly mentioning the Jewish link to the shortages would be a good thing to do, where it is safe to do. Lots, maybe most, people can see it now. But of course most people are terrified.

The other option is to arrange informal supplies from the Russians. Harris thinks that is disgusting, but Trump says it is OK. Can someone contact the Rooskies and get a price for delivery in 5 litre cans, on a moonless night a mile off the coast?

We should ask our contacts in the Garda Sicini if they have heard anything.
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YOU ARE SPOT ON .
the war in the Ukraine is not a Ukraine war .
it is correctly a blackrock versus Russia war .
Jewish Victoria nuland was allowed to be resident in Ukraine as USA UNDER SEC OF STATE under 4 different american presidents as she bribed and moved politicians on the chessboard .
Jewish zalenksy and the Jewish oligarch which owned the TV station which owned and produced the comedy/political show which featured zalenksy as president of Ukraine making the correct decisions only to watch corrupt Ukraine turn his rule into a comedy show --watched by millions for 2 years to condition them .
along comes Victoria with a cash prize of 5 BILLION DOLLARS to be distributed amongst the army and police and politicians in the most corrupt country in Europe for her personal coup .
which she watched live on the midan square with geffory pyatt usa ambassador and mad headcase sen john mc cain -- they were filmed distributing cookies amongst the crowd before they retreated to a safe viewpoint where they watched dozens of their cookie munchers being shot to death .
TODAY RIGHT NOW a 10 year old child with its new smartphone can hear a great phone call ( type into google F THE EU PHONE CALL NULAND )which Angela merkle said was a disgrace and for which Victoria Nuland made a laughing apology along with Jewish Anthony blinken USA foreign sec who backed her and the war to the hilt.
in this call you can hear her pick not alone the present government but also the opposition while the legally elected Yanakovich was president .
all of this was done for blackrock which then entered the game and paid zalenksy for 1/5 th of giant Ukraine ==== the trillions of oil and gas under Crimea and the 100 ft deep black richest soil not found anywhere else on earth which has allowed the planting of grain for over a 100 years each year .
the mines and rare earth metals worth trillions are all in the Russian speaking areas of western Ukraine and have all been bought and paid for and when the world combines to deny the ethnic Russians their dream of being re united with mother Russia you have to smell a rat as it is so unified and so vicious .
we watched a bizarre unbelievable terrorist British operation to INVADE A NUCLEAR POWER STATE and send rapid responsive units packed to the gills with ammo and fuel as they could not resupply themselves ,
in a mad dash to take TWO NUCLEAR POWER STATIONS IN KURSK DEEP IN MOTHER RUSSIA and state they would blow them up and poison Russia for a 1000 years if Putin did not resign .
the most poisoned and near death druggies could not dream this up .
when i see our ME HAUL giving 150 million for them to kill Russians from neutral Ireland and thereby stop the sale of oil to Ireland JUST AS WAR WITH IRAN WAS BREAKING i wonder does Jewish Larry fink / blackrock own the Irish too as they clearly own everyone else .
 
SeekTheFairLand said:
The people had the opportunity to vote for Remigration representatives without the need for all the hysterics. They didnt.

The Garda have handled all the street protest without the need for the Army etc.

All the truckers, bus drivers and builders are going to lead the charge because of the diesel prices?

Are the diesel prices going affect the profits they got from building IPAS centres, or bussing the planters to the IPAS centres or will hauliers still be able to employ foreign drivers?

Ireland is now going to be saved by the normies who have gone along with every WEF measure thus far?
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You are wrong about the people and to term the re migration reps as being on par with anyone else is the problem you fail to see and the irish people see clearly .
when substantial figures emerge --not just single issue semiliterates,
then the irish will back them to the hilt as nobody will vote for a bull in a china shop -- WE NEED THE SHOP WE NEED THE CHINA TO FLOG IT TO EAT AND LIVE --this is what the irish have figured out --you do not know us very well.
 
BIG FAT HOOR said:
You are wrong about the people and to term the re migration reps as being on par with anyone else is the problem you fail to see and the irish people see clearly .
when substantial figures emerge --not just single issue semiliterates,
then the irish will back them to the hilt as nobody will vote for a bull in a china shop -- WE NEED THE SHOP WE NEED THE CHINA TO FLOG IT TO EAT AND LIVE --this is what the irish have figured out --you do not know us very well.
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They see clearly do they? We've been waiting since the foundation of state for these substantial figures to emerge. Since the Irish are only waiting for this Coming of the Messiah they continue to just back FF and FG or their careerist subsets. They're not fools.

Meanwhile they fall over themselves to elect a President whose main platform was advocating for some patch of desert in the Middle East.
 
French ships paying the Iranian toll to transit the Hormuz M50.
Fuel Crisis Over.
Hopes of an Irish Revolution on the back of outraged Irish Normies fade into the background

Irish farmers back to supplying China with beef whilst Normies back to eating their Ultra-Processed Goy Slop.

Irish builders back to their Big Breakfast Rolls before hitting their latest IPAS site.

Irish Bus drivers back to doing airport to IPAS runs for Pajeet and Achmed.

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SeekTheFairLand said:
French ships paying the Iranian toll to transit the Hormuz M50.
Fuel Crisis Over.
Hopes of an Irish Revolution on the back of outraged Irish Normies fade into the background

Irish farmers back to supplying China with beef whilst Normies back to eating their Ultra-Processed Goy Slop.

Irish builders back to their Big Breakfast Rolls before hitting their latest IPAS site.

Irish Bus drivers back to doing airport to IPAS runs for Pajeet and Achmed.

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Brigitte's Balls have spoken ! !
 
SeekTheFairLand said:
The people had the opportunity to vote for Remigration representatives without the need for all the hysterics. They didnt.
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Oh, are you one of these Election Fraud deniers? I've heard tell of your type. Pay careful attention: The elections were massively rigged in swaggering style, as comments on other threads have amply demonstrated.

A defeatist and an election fraud denier. Tut, tut, tut. Betcha you're also an atheist. No offence meant, and none taken, I'm sure. Some of my best friends, etc, etc.

But please, what about a constructive suggestion? Don't be shy.
 
SeekTheFairLand said:
They see clearly do they? We've been waiting since the foundation of state for these substantial figures to emerge. Since the Irish are only waiting for this Coming of the Messiah they continue to just back FF and FG or their careerist subsets. They're not fools.

Meanwhile they fall over themselves to elect a President whose main platform was advocating for some patch of desert in the Middle East.
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i was disgusted with the election and spoiled my vote -- the Jewish owned mainstream media excessively highlighted her support for the children of Gaza to try and stop her being elected .
she was portrayed by them and by you as a single issue candidate unworthy of support .
 
Myles O'Reilly said:
You're talking to a man from Keady who is mates with Dessie O'Hare.

You had best watch your step Leitrim lad.
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You know what the people of Kilkenny did to Dessie at ministers cross near Freshford .
mind yourself in Kilkenny Myles -- i told them you are coming .
 
BIG FAT HOOR said:
i was disgusted with the election and spoiled my vote -- the Jewish owned mainstream media excessively highlighted her support for the children of Gaza to try and stop her being elected .
she was portrayed by them and by you as a single issue candidate unworthy of support .
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So why did you not vote for her?
 
Diarmuid said:
Oh, are you one of these Election Fraud deniers? I've heard tell of your type. Pay careful attention: The elections were massively rigged in swaggering style, as comments on other threads have amply demonstrated.

A defeatist and an election fraud denier. Tut, tut, tut. Betcha you're also an atheist. No offence meant, and none taken, I'm sure. Some of my best friends, etc, etc.

But please, what about a constructive suggestion? Don't be shy.
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How many seats do you think the Resistance had denied to them by the Riggers?
If the election was rigged at such a scale that you suggest, where are these huge number of voters protesting in masse at their denial?
The more realistic explanation is that the vast majority of the Irish people are just not bothered by any of the things happening. Not bothered enough to do anything beyond muttering.
That's why the Government could if they want impose energy lock-downs and the vast majority will go right along with it.
A majority of those will be enthusiastic for it as it will be an opportunity to virtue signal about it.
 
BIG FAT HOOR said:
i was disgusted with the election and spoiled my vote -- the Jewish owned mainstream media excessively highlighted her support for the children of Gaza to try and stop her being elected .
she was portrayed by them and by you as a single issue candidate unworthy of support .
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She's an Uber woke abortionist. Probably worse than the faggot who was there before her.
 
"If the election was rigged at such a scale that you suggest, where are these huge number of voters protesting in masse at their denial?"

Several hundred thousand people have attended anti-immigration rallies in the past few years. The biggest, most sustained series of protests in irish history.

You seem not to be aware that people who protest too much against the government put themselves in great danger.

Do you accept that Irish cops routinely kill, allow others to kill or simply frame protestors? They have gassed and beaten little old ladies and pretty young Irish-Fillipina journalists

Your insistence that there was no election rigging is suspicious. Do you accept that election rigging is quite common, even in white people's countries?

Using lack of mass protests as a proof of an honest election is an obvious non-sequiter.

Can you name a single honest returning officer in all Ireland? Do you think Art O"Leary, election commissioner, is an honest man?
 
Notice in the video the minister for whatever is jabbering about conserving energy at a garda checkpoint with a scary guard beside him. Predictive programming maybe?
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Govt information campaign to help people conserve fuel

The Government is to bring forward an information campaign to assist people to conserve fuel during the energy crisis, according to the Minister for Transport Darragh O'Brien.
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BIG FAT HOOR said:
Diarmuid my mother was from Dromad where in Leitrim are you .
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Further north. Halfway between Dromahaire and Drumkeerin, two hundred yards from the famous Iron Bridge.

The Jewish media did not mention Connolly's (fake) support for the Palestinians to reduce her support. They did it to boost her. They know damn well that bashing the israelis is popular.

Since that witch got elected, she has not officially said ONE WORD about the Palestinians, even though the israelis have massacred at least 600 in Gaza in that time and are repeatedly threatening the Irish Army lads.

The Zionist cat has got the Irish president's tongue. And no doubt she will comply with any energy shutdown that the israelis want
 
Diarmuid said:
Further north. Halfway between Dromahaire and Drumkeerin, two hundred yards from the famous Iron Bridge.

The Jewish media did not mention Connolly's (fake) support for the Palestinians to reduce her support. They did it to boost her. They know damn well that bashing the israelis is popular.

Since that witch got elected, she has not officially said ONE WORD about the Palestinians, even though the israelis have massacred at least 600 in Gaza in that time and are repeatedly threatening the Irish Army lads.

The Zionist cat has got the Irish president's tongue. And no doubt she will comply with any energy shutdown that the israelis want
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My Letrim grandfather was a vet and had 70 acres of bog mainly to keep animals he was working on --the land was useless for agriculture and when he died with a young family of 10 they were destitute as all their wealth died with him .
My mother frequently went barefoot to school and their poverty marked them for life .
they were all highly intelligent and became nurses and accountants and farmers and hauliers in England and America .
my aunts in New Haven struggled for a while and one of them had to retrain herself as a computer programmer as nurses were so badly paid locally and drive 80 miles to work each day and leave her two tiny tots in the house as they had no money for child minders after her English husband became an alcoholic .
the tots had to hide from view in the house each day for years and one of them got a scholarship to Yale and has met 3 american presidents and holidayed with John Hume in Moville while a director of Chase Manhattan the other ran a department store in Arizona .
The searing wound of Letrim poverty has left its mark on us all as we are products of it and only my kids are free of it -- when i get a rare chance to discuss the past --i might as well be talking about martians -they cannot absorb it it is too foreign too bizarre -- they clearly disbelieve me as they have no reference point to address what i am saying .
something most people will not know ---and maybe not understand the importance of this in my life ,
but strangely in my life i have been a listener -- a real listener --one who listens like a dog to someone speaking and the tone and urgency are heard and inform me often substantially more than the rhetoric used -
i pay attention to the eyes and nostrils and lips and what is called the cut of his jib while talking .
the stance tells a great deal and whos eye contact is made and whose is avoided --its all a Shakespearean play even in and most frequently in the most humble sitting room/kitchen.
i did this from a very early age as i was dead for a short while when i got jaundice and was anointed and my pulse came back aged approx 7 .
i was away for a few moments and this experience changed me for life and i will write about it some other time .
i had interests as a child /young man and i read everything i could find --this self education was really acquiring a database to deal with the world based on multiple encyclopedias .
this database did not include religion or spirituality and i therefore built a firewall around religion and i explored spiritualism like a dog .
why i am writing this is to explain what happened /what i was told in Leitrim by my 88 year old grandmother in 1967 when i was 10 years of age .
I was possessed by the so called famine as we Irish betray to a dog the enormity and evil of the famine and i was possessed by the Irish spiritual power of the event which i could not explain ,
and i went to my grandmother Anne and when it was quiet i asked her what did the people who lived and survived the famine say to you as you would have met them.
she heard my tone and knew it meant the world to me to know and she knew i was changed by my experiences at even 10 years old and she stared at me for a moment before speaking .
THEY SPOKE ABOUT THE SILENCE IN THE WORLD
THERE WERE NO CATTLE
THERE WERE NO HORSES
THERE WERE VERY FEW BIRDS
NOBODY WAS ABOUT
PEOPLE DIED QUIETLY AT HOME
THE COUNTRYSIDE WAS SILENT.
and she turned away --what more could she say to a child --this child treasured this conversation all of his life as i believe i have tried and spoken and listened to the people who died in the only way i could and nobody has ever mentioned the death of Ireland and the Irish in such a way since .
 
BIG FAT HOOR said:
My Letrim grandfather was a vet and had 70 acres of bog mainly to keep animals he was working on --the land was useless for agriculture and when he died with a young family of 10 they were destitute as all their wealth died with him .
My mother frequently went barefoot to school and their poverty marked them for life .
they were all highly intelligent and became nurses and accountants and farmers and hauliers in England and America .
my aunts in New Haven struggled for a while and one of them had to retrain herself as a computer programmer as nurses were so badly paid locally and drive 80 miles to work each day and leave her two tiny tots in the house as they had no money for child minders after her English husband became an alcoholic .
the tots had to hide from view in the house each day for years and one of them got a scholarship to Yale and has met 3 american presidents and holidayed with John Hume in Moville while a director of Chase Manhattan the other ran a department store in Arizona .
The searing wound of Letrim poverty has left its mark on us all as we are products of it and only my kids are free of it -- when i get a rare chance to discuss the past --i might as well be talking about martians -they cannot absorb it it is too foreign too bizarre -- they clearly disbelieve me as they have no reference point to address what i am saying .
something most people will not know ---and maybe not understand the importance of this in my life ,
but strangely in my life i have been a listener -- a real listener --one who listens like a dog to someone speaking and the tone and urgency are heard and inform me often substantially more than the rhetoric used -
i pay attention to the eyes and nostrils and lips and what is called the cut of his jib while talking .
the stance tells a great deal and whos eye contact is made and whose is avoided --its all a Shakespearean play even in and most frequently in the most humble sitting room/kitchen.
i did this from a very early age as i was dead for a short while when i got jaundice and was anointed and my pulse came back aged approx 7 .
i was away for a few moments and this experience changed me for life and i will write about it some other time .
i had interests as a child /young man and i read everything i could find --this self education was really acquiring a database to deal with the world based on multiple encyclopedias .
this database did not include religion or spirituality and i therefore built a firewall around religion and i explored spiritualism like a dog .
why i am writing this is to explain what happened /what i was told in Leitrim by my 88 year old grandmother in 1967 when i was 10 years of age .
I was possessed by the so called famine as we Irish betray to a dog the enormity and evil of the famine and i was possessed by the Irish spiritual power of the event which i could not explain ,
and i went to my grandmother Anne and when it was quiet i asked her what did the people who lived and survived the famine say to you as you would have met them.
she heard my tone and knew it meant the world to me to know and she knew i was changed by my experiences at even 10 years old and she stared at me for a moment before speaking .
THEY SPOKE ABOUT THE SILENCE IN THE WORLD
THERE WERE NO CATTLE
THERE WERE NO HORSES
THERE WERE VERY FEW BIRDS
NOBODY WAS ABOUT
PEOPLE DIED QUIETLY AT HOME
THE COUNTRYSIDE WAS SILENT.
and she turned away --what more could she say to a child --this child treasured this conversation all of his life as i believe i have tried and spoken and listened to the people who died in the only way i could and nobody has ever mentioned the death of Ireland and the Irish in such a way since .
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My own Mother ( no longer with us ) often told us that many of the Children in her school, walked to school in their bare feet ~ That was poverty and suffering ( certainly one strong symptom of it )

It may have not been the only reason ~ But it must be remembered that the British did No economic favours to the 26 Counties after the 26 Counties broke away. It could even be said that the British did an economic punishment on the 26 Counties at that time ~ I suppose from the British point of view, they would believe = = Why should they do anything to economically help the 26 Counties, but I would say they intentionally did as much economic harm as suited them, probably as a warning to anyone else that would have been thinking of leaving the British Empire at that time ! ! !
 
BIG FAT HOOR said:
My Letrim grandfather was a vet and had 70 acres of bog mainly to keep animals he was working on --the land was useless for agriculture and when he died with a young family of 10 they were destitute as all their wealth died with him .
My mother frequently went barefoot to school and their poverty marked them for life .
they were all highly intelligent and became nurses and accountants and farmers and hauliers in England and America .
my aunts in New Haven struggled for a while and one of them had to retrain herself as a computer programmer as nurses were so badly paid locally and drive 80 miles to work each day and leave her two tiny tots in the house as they had no money for child minders after her English husband became an alcoholic .
the tots had to hide from view in the house each day for years and one of them got a scholarship to Yale and has met 3 american presidents and holidayed with John Hume in Moville while a director of Chase Manhattan the other ran a department store in Arizona .
The searing wound of Letrim poverty has left its mark on us all as we are products of it and only my kids are free of it -- when i get a rare chance to discuss the past --i might as well be talking about martians -they cannot absorb it it is too foreign too bizarre -- they clearly disbelieve me as they have no reference point to address what i am saying .
something most people will not know ---and maybe not understand the importance of this in my life ,
but strangely in my life i have been a listener -- a real listener --one who listens like a dog to someone speaking and the tone and urgency are heard and inform me often substantially more than the rhetoric used -
i pay attention to the eyes and nostrils and lips and what is called the cut of his jib while talking .
the stance tells a great deal and whos eye contact is made and whose is avoided --its all a Shakespearean play even in and most frequently in the most humble sitting room/kitchen.
i did this from a very early age as i was dead for a short while when i got jaundice and was anointed and my pulse came back aged approx 7 .
i was away for a few moments and this experience changed me for life and i will write about it some other time .
i had interests as a child /young man and i read everything i could find --this self education was really acquiring a database to deal with the world based on multiple encyclopedias .
this database did not include religion or spirituality and i therefore built a firewall around religion and i explored spiritualism like a dog .
why i am writing this is to explain what happened /what i was told in Leitrim by my 88 year old grandmother in 1967 when i was 10 years of age .
I was possessed by the so called famine as we Irish betray to a dog the enormity and evil of the famine and i was possessed by the Irish spiritual power of the event which i could not explain ,
and i went to my grandmother Anne and when it was quiet i asked her what did the people who lived and survived the famine say to you as you would have met them.
she heard my tone and knew it meant the world to me to know and she knew i was changed by my experiences at even 10 years old and she stared at me for a moment before speaking .
THEY SPOKE ABOUT THE SILENCE IN THE WORLD
THERE WERE NO CATTLE
THERE WERE NO HORSES
THERE WERE VERY FEW BIRDS
NOBODY WAS ABOUT
PEOPLE DIED QUIETLY AT HOME
THE COUNTRYSIDE WAS SILENT.
and she turned away --what more could she say to a child --this child treasured this conversation all of his life as i believe i have tried and spoken and listened to the people who died in the only way i could and nobody has ever mentioned the death of Ireland and the Irish in such a way since .
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THEY SPOKE ABOUT THE SILENCE IN THE WORLD
THERE WERE NO CATTLE
THERE WERE NO HORSES
THERE WERE VERY FEW BIRDS
NOBODY WAS ABOUT
PEOPLE DIED QUIETLY AT HOME
THE COUNTRYSIDE WAS SILENT.

That is perhaps the most telling and poignant account of the famine I have come across. To a great extent it has been romanticised by the Brits, and Irish themselves, through the folk songs, rose tinted accounts and excuses for why it was allowed to happen. Yet the actual dying itself is rarely mentioned, it's all talked about as something that happend behind a curtain and we needn't bother ourselves with the detail.

Thank you for sharing.
 
Can we have a daily update on the price of juice.

Cheapest I saw today is 3.49 for gas and $5.69 for diesel.

My suburban gets about gets 15 mpg. My sons diesel rv van gets 15. His mustang gets about 22. His VW cc gets about 27 but premium. My wifes accord and daughters CRV get about 33.
 
Declan said:
Can we have a daily update on the price of juice.

Cheapest I saw today is 3.49 for gas and $5.69 for diesel.

My suburban gets about gets 15 mpg. My sons diesel rv van gets 15. His mustang gets about 22. His VW cc gets about 27 but premium. My wifes accord and daughters CRV get about 33.
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i had a loan of a golf 2.0 for 2 weeks when my sister was on her honymoon and i averaged 63 mpg.
your gallon i think is different than ours .
my volvo b12 when the wind is behind its 18 tons fully laden will do 14mpg on cruise control 53 mph at 1100 revs is the sweet spot --i can get better on my own as the cruise control pushes it up a hill like diesel is free --i dont and can get sometimes 15 mpg .
for a 12 liter 18 tonner thats good .
 
BIG FAT HOOR said:
i had a loan of a golf 2.0 for 2 weeks when my sister was on her honymoon and i averaged 63 mpg.
your gallon i think is different than ours .
my volvo b12 when the wind is behind its 18 tons fully laden will do 14mpg on cruise control 53 mph at 1100 revs is the sweet spot --i can get better on my own as the cruise control pushes it up a hill like diesel is free --i dont and can get sometimes 15 mpg .
for a 12 liter 18 tonner thats good .
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Yah, but my sister is too old to go on a honeymoon so my suburban is stuck at 16 mpg
 
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