Is the Left the only resistance against the Jews?

[The Equalizer]

Do you think people are stupid, your "race realism" is obviously a modern rebrand of scientific racism.

Race realism is the truth about race.

The only overlap with scientific racism is race denialism, race realism being the opposite.

Race realism has nothing to do with the Nazis or any policy forthcoming.

Your "race realism" relies on the same fundamental premises that underpinned the Nazi era of scientific racism, i.e. biological determinism, claiming that human "races" are fixed, biologically distinct sub-species.

You both put these "races" in hierarchical ranking, claimimg that genetic differences dictate disparities in intelligence, behaviour, and civilization-building capabilities, etc.

True or false?

Of course it's true. How else can you explain it?

 

[Roc_]

Yes, the measure of your "truth" being "science", just the same as Nazis claimed the same. I.e. It was (pseudo) "science" that "proved" it for them.

In other news, that David Miller stuff is old news, he's doing a circuit, getting paid for "lawfare". E.g. The below from October 2024.

Anti-Zionist beliefs ‘worthy of respect’, UK tribunal finds

Judges say unfairly dismissed academic David Miller’s views on Israel should be protected by antidiscrimination laws

www.theguardian.com

Granted here again we see the UK state leading the way, corroborating a guy who dresses up antisemitism as "scholarship" for pay - paid by the very same people who also paid a man to slice a knife through Salman Rushdie's throat. A mediocrity whose academic forte is dressing up classic antisemitic conspiracy tropes as critical research and academic sociology and getting paid for it.

Ask yourself who this is really a win for. Is it a win for the UK and the values they once upheld?

"The truth" etc. etc.

 

[The Equalizer]

Yes, the measure of your "truth" being "science", just the same as Nazis claimed the same. I.e. It was (pseudo) "science" that "proved" it for them.

Race as a biological reality is science. And that is obviously based on genetic difference.

Are you saying that someone like Richard Dawkins is a pseudoscientist?

In other news, that David Miller stuff is old news, he's doing a circuit, getting paid for "lawfare". E.g. The below from October 2024.

Anti-Zionist beliefs ‘worthy of respect’, UK tribunal finds

Judges say unfairly dismissed academic David Miller’s views on Israel should be protected by antidiscrimination laws

www.theguardian.com

Granted here again we see the UK state leading the way, corroborating a guy who dresses up antisemitism as "scholarship" for pay - paid by the very same people who also paid a man to slice a knife through Salman Rushdie's throat. A mediocrity whose academic forte is dressing up classic antisemitic conspiracy tropes as critical research and academic sociology and getting paid for it.

Ask yourself who this is really a win for. Is it a win for the UK and the values they once upheld?

"The truth" etc. etc.

 

[Roc_]

Are you saying that someone like Richard Dawkins is a pseudoscientist?

Again, Jambo, read this slowly this time, Richard Dawkins does not posit racial categories as useful proxies for genetic diversity. He continually strives to communicate to the layman the fact that racial categories are extremely weak proxies for genetic diversity in humans.

Have you not heard him say for instance that when you move from visual differences to biological differences that you are moving from a defensible proxy to dealing with a very weak proxy?

Can you not grasp with that tiny binary mind of yours that the fact genetic differences between races are swamped by an order of magnitude by the genetic diversity that occurs within races, sounds the death knell for your rebranded theory?

 

[The Equalizer]

Again, Jambo, read this slowly this time, Richard Dawkins does not posit racial categories as useful proxies for genetic diversity. He continually strives to communicate to the layman the fact that racial categories are extremely weak proxies for genetic diversity in humans.

Have you not heard him say for instance that when you move from visual differences to biological differences that you are moving from a defensible proxy to dealing with a very weak proxy?

Can you not grasp with that tiny binary mind of yours that the fact genetic differences between races are swamped by an order of magnitude by the genetic diversity that occurs within races, sounds the death knell for your rebranded theory?

Good God, you're so tiresome..

Dawkins says that race is a biological reality -

Post in thread 'Andrew Gold Tackles The Taboo Topic Of Race Realism' https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.co...-taboo-topic-of-race-realism.1152/post-167563

And that reality can only be based on genetic difference.

 

[Roc_]

FFS. Yes it is tiresome, Jambo.

How about a picture, maybe that would help?

POPULATION A (e.g., European) └───■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■───┘
POPULATION B (e.g., East Asian) └───■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■───┘
POPULATION C (e.g., African) └───■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■───┘
..................................................◄───────────────────────────►
..................................................Total Human Genetic Space

 

[Agobard Admirer]

Again we should get back on topic.

@The Equalizer on another thread said that the "Counter-Jihad" movement is a Jewish one, I would not say that, what I would say is that it is a movement dominated by people I believe to be Jewish Supremacists. Similarly if we look at the anti-Jewish politics of most of the 20 th century they were driven by the fact the early Bolshevik government of the USSR was dominated by people from Jewish backgrounds, that wealthy Jewish capitalists were counter-intuitively willing to help the Bolsheviks financially and the incredibly brutal way that Trotsky, one of the most Jewish of the early Bolsheviks from Jewish backgrounds, as head of the Red Army waged the Russian civil war.

People have become so used to calling the Left "antisemitic" that this whole chapter of history has been largely forgotten not least amongst many types of Jews themselves.

However according to files recently released from James Angleton who US Intelligence between 1954 and 1975- "According to Angelton, his Jewish assets were responsible for 22,000 reports on the USSR, generating several intelligence masterstrokes. Chief among them was the publication of Soviet Prime Minister Nikita Kruschev’s famous 1956 secret speech denouncing Stalin, which the spymaster boasted “practically created revolutions in Hungary and Poland.” Elsewhere, Angleton bragged that his arrangement with Israel had produced “500 Polish intelligence officers who were Jewish” who “knew more about Polish intelligence than the Poles.” ( https://thegrayzone.com/2025/08/15/cias-angleton-israeli-spy-ring-files/ ).

 

[Roc_]

So now the antisemitic morons are now trying to breathe new life back into the old "Judeo-Bolshevism" conspiracy theories.

Conspiracy theories that formed part of the rationale for what was done to them last century and since clearly shown up as having been spurious.

I.e. They were never a majority or in control of the Bolshevik party (while being somewhat disproportionately represented among certain left-wing intellectual circles due to other factors which also need to be considered carefully).

Anyway this antisemitic conspiracy falsely claimed that Jewish people engineered the 1917 revolution, controlled the Soviet Union, were using communism as a tool to attack the West, that Bolshevism was not a political movement, but a racial and religious Jewish design aimed at global domination, involving global Jewish cabals, along lines of the Protocols, etc.

And quelle surprise, we hearing again the same type of stuff, from the same quarters.

Well at least the Jews have Israel this time round and are ready to fight and protect themselves from it.

 

[Agobard Admirer]

I.e. They were never a majority or in control of the Bolshevik party (while being somewhat disproportionately represented among certain left-wing intellectual circles due to other factors which also need to be considered carefully).

No one ever claimed that they were a majority in the Party. Jews and people from Jewish backgrounds were though a significant majority of the leadership- and even Yuri Slezkine admitted this. For some of them such as Trotsky their Jewish identity was both formative and important to them, others might well have actually been "self-hating Jews" (which were a real phenomena at a juncture of history but which really do not exist anymore unless you are going to count Gilad Atzmon).

I would not interpret the facts in the manner that Professor Revilo Oliver, Professor Herman de Vries de Heekelingen and Louis-Ferdinand Celine to name but three however I do believe that the traditional Jewish attitudes between peasants, particularly Christian ones, coloured the manner in which Trotsky conducted the Civil War. Also I would argue that this early dominating position did not last (though the USSR never became anti-Jewish) and it was people like Vadim Kisin who came to benfit most from the suicide of the Soviet Union.

You are correct though that the Jewish participation in the leadership of the October Revolution and early Soviet Union played a large role in anti-Jewish sentiment during the 20 th century.

Do you have any thoughts on the topic of Jews and the Left? My understanding is that you hold to a similar position to Rabbi Meir Kahane that the association of Jews with the Left was a historical anomaly and that intrinsically the Left is anti-Jewish?