There is no God

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Meanwhile, where is God? This is one of the most disquieting symptoms. But go to Him when your need is desperate, when all other help is in vain, and what do you find? A door slammed in your face, and a sound of bolting and double bolting on the inside.

CS Lewis
 
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Meanwhile, where is God? This is one of the most disquieting symptoms. But go to Him when your need is desperate, when all other help is in vain, and what do you find? A door slammed in your face, and a sound of bolting and double bolting on the inside.

CS Lewis
My Kingdom is not of this world
 

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God exists, why would you think he didnt?
 

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Don't you mind whether God exists or not. Why don't you make sure real posters exist and cut out all the socks?

I defended you against Sparky yesterday. Earn your crust FFS
What are you on about?
 

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There's a rake of sock accounts here, most of them belonging to Sham. Its all well and good putting giphys in the toolbar but when you have posters running amok what's the point?
 

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There's a rake of sock accounts here, most of them belonging to Sham. Its all well and good putting giphys in the toolbar but when you have posters running amok what's the point?
What does that have to do with me?
 

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Can I just say on this question, you have to have an unprejudiced open mind on it and you have to study it.

You hear all these stories about a priest looking cross eyed at some fella when they were 10 and ever since they knew atheism was the way to go. You still believe Moscow is the capital city of Russia, that your geography teacher taught you, and any dislike of that teacher wouldn't affect your decision on the matter, so why should it with respect to priests? Some people are clearly wallowing in that kind of prejudice, because that's what it is, and there is not a lot of point debating with people like that.

Secondly you have to study it. Again there are people out there who tuned into religion until they were 10, they heard that God loved them but never bothered to study the complexities that that actually leads to, but will dismiss you on the basis of their knowledge of the subject when they were 10.

Its complicated and if you are not prepared to study the issue, i.e. theology from a Christian perspective, not Dawkins etc who are not talking about theology, then I don't know how one can be so dogmatic about it?
 

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Study the issue Sir? I can't see what requires study. One's own eyes and ears of what they see happening about them and Worldwide is what would give someone an idea of a God of some kind. Not theology. That's just grandiose for the ego.

An illiterate man would have just as much sense of the existence of a God as some bookworm dork with elbow patches on his dinner jacket.
 

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I'm not saying there isn't one. But if there is, it appears to be a very malevolent being.


(Thread title perhaps should've read Is there a God?)
 

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Study the issue Sir? I can't see what requires study. One's own eyes and ears of what they see happening about them and Worldwide is what would give someone an idea of a God of some kind. Not theology. That's just grandiose for the ego.

An illiterate man would have just as much sense of the existence of a God as some bookworm dork with elbow patches on his dinner jacket.
In fairness ~ A simple man in a simple world is more likely to know of God ! !

For, The Simple Man is unlikely to think / believe that he is God ! !

Man here being ~ human kind.
 

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Man is born to live, to suffer, and to die, and what befalls him is a tragic lot.

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There! That's where God is to be seen, consider the great Christian Schism Wars of many years gone by, 30-100 years in their duration.
When the armies had done their worst and moved on there would have been great devastation which could be put down as God's work and with the promise of eternal life it must have given great comfort to those who were dispatched and those loved ones who sadly missed them.
God exists - The hope and comfort (especially for kids.)
 
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Ah Sham do something with goats again. I thought that was your most creative period❤
I don't think I was ever a goat. I was a frog for a good while and enjoyed that.

Anyway, the I.M.L.A. did their bit during the Convid -1984 Scamdemic and indeed helped to stop a few people from getting jabbed. We are resting at the moment and preparing ourselves for the next battle.

We are preparing ourselves now to stop Mary Loo McToenails from getting re-elected in the next General Election and to eventually smash the traitor globohomo party called SF (note - we were responsible for Kate O'Connell's failure at the last GE), I am in contact with a former political leader who has passed over to the other side who, though we are diametrically opposed on many issues, share one common patriotic goal -

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I agree. Lads, what do you gain by forcing us to second guess who you are. Don't be ashamed of being somewhere else. (*unless it is pIsles). Come out like a man and say who you are.
Come out ye black and trans come out and fight me like a man
 

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Unreal Engine 5


View: https://youtu.be/7ZLibi6s_ew



View: https://youtu.be/WU0gvPcc3jQ




If this is where our technology is now, one can only imagine what our technology will be like 100 years from now.

Imagine the tech other civilizations out there must have, civilizations thousands of years ahead of us.

Now imagine God, above all this, God could literally be playing a game on his PC, we are in his PC.
 

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If this is where our technology is now, one can only imagine what our technology will be like 100 years from now.

Imagine the tech other civilizations out there must have, civilizations thousands of years ahead of us.

Now imagine God, above all this, God could literally be playing a game on his PC, we are in his PC.

Imagine all the people, living life in peace. Imagine games with no guns. Imagine a kindly considerate Ai God.

P.S. That pulsing signal code which Nasa is recording proves there are Alien comms being transmitted within a galaxy in our local group, scientists are so excited because they've started to crack the code and understand what the aliens are about!!
But the problem now is trying to send them a long distance lazor-sms because it takes 125 earth years to send/receive a text.
Has unknown God done it quicker before ?? Some say the messages have been sent thousands of years ago - It's going to take 2750 years to Lazortext a reply that they may or may not be able to decode??
 
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Dawkins of course doesn't say - "There is no God", as Myles does. Myles is more extreme and I think that he has that clip of Stephen Fry, on whatever that RTÉ Gaybo retirement send-off programme was, playing on loop in his head.

Atheism is a global phenomena but the reasons or at least rationales behind atheism vary from culture to culture. The whole "problem of evil" thing as the main reason for people's atheism is really particular to both the West and to Russia (Greece is different) but again the whole "problem of evil" only really arose with Christianity which is why you get in the first Christian centuries things like Marcionism and Gnosticism.
 

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Where were you when I laid the Earth's foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
On what were its footings set--
or who laid its cornerstone,
while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels shouted for joy?--Job: 38-4-7.
 

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This one makes some sense

My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, so far from the words of my groaning? O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer, by night, and am not silent. Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One; you are the praise of Israel.
 

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This one makes some sense

My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, so far from the words of my groaning? O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer, by night, and am not silent. Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One; you are the praise of Israel.
Myles, the question isn't whether God does or doesn't exist. The question is whether eroding people's faith is a beneficial, humanistic, or helpful pastime.;)
 

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This one makes some sense

My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, so far from the words of my groaning? O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer, by night, and am not silent. Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One; you are the praise of Israel.
Written by an evicted Palestinian, she makes a sensible point.
 

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I can't stand Dawkins. Tells everyone not to have kids and buy dogs instead, but he's got both. What Richard really means is 'You're not worthy to breed, so don't. Only people like myself may breed'.

He's the Cat Stevens of intelligentsia, who goes around supporting violent jihadist regimes, says the penalty for apostasy is death, yet concomitantly sings peace train.
 

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Dawkins and Dennett connected to Epstein​


 

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I know a lot of people found it difficult to believe that Richard Dawkins’s arguments are as haplessly bad as they are. But every time he speaks out, he reveals that he is both dishonest and as reliably inept as I described

 

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