The Climate Change scam

[clarke-connolly]

Contrast with the the right on green bullshit here.
No free energy if you don't have zero interest.
Val was on the money on all this long ago.

Green Dreams Turn Into Nightmares: After US Withdrawal, Orsted Pulls Out Of Norway Wind Bidding | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Val knew a lot about the Wind Stuff / Wind Energy / Wind Con.

Maybe the Off-Shore Wind Turbines are a better bet / possibility ( I don't know enough about it )

 

[Professor]

I don't think that Cork People know how to ~ ~ Use Corks Properly ! ! !

Six months of winter yet to go but maybe they are used to it by now, in affected streets everyone stays upstairs for a day or two?

 

[clarke-connolly]

Everything is alway Bigger and Better in Cork or Worse and Worse-er ! ! !

 

[Kangal]

‘The science is irrefutable’: US warming faster than global average, says report

Government assessment says extreme weather events mean country suffers a disaster every three weeks, costing at least $1bn

www.theguardian.com

I think a lot of climate scientists have privately called it a day.

Even if we stopped burning all fossil fuels right now, it will make no difference.

In fact, we may as well burn fossil fuels to power technology to cope with future changes, and try to do something about it that way. Ie

"The White House has used the updated report to trumpet the US president’s efforts to address the climate crisis, announcing more than $5bn in new spending directed at upgrading the electric grid"

But there's nothing to be actually done to stop the changes now. Anything that is being done is hopeless inadequate and 20 years too late.

You can all relax now.

 

[Mad as Fish]

‘The science is irrefutable’: US warming faster than global average, says report

Government assessment says extreme weather events mean country suffers a disaster every three weeks, costing at least $1bn

www.theguardian.com

I think a lot of climate scientists have privately called it a day.

Even if we stopped burning all fossil fuels right now, it will make no difference.

In fact, we may as well burn fossil fuels to power technology to cope with future changes, and try to do something about it that way. Ie

"The White House has used the updated report to trumpet the US president’s efforts to address the climate crisis, announcing more than $5bn in new spending directed at upgrading the electric grid"

But there's nothing to be actually done to stop the changes now. Anything that is being done is hopeless inadequate and 20 years too late.

You can all relax now.

Carbon is a red herring, any effect it might have is minuscule when compared to water vapour, but guess what, there are companies out there lining up to make a few billion here and there out of carbon credits, as always, follow the money.

 

[Mad as Fish]

‘The science is irrefutable’: US warming faster than global average, says report

Government assessment says extreme weather events mean country suffers a disaster every three weeks, costing at least $1bn

www.theguardian.com

I think a lot of climate scientists have privately called it a day.

Even if we stopped burning all fossil fuels right now, it will make no difference.

In fact, we may as well burn fossil fuels to power technology to cope with future changes, and try to do something about it that way. Ie

"The White House has used the updated report to trumpet the US president’s efforts to address the climate crisis, announcing more than $5bn in new spending directed at upgrading the electric grid"

But there's nothing to be actually done to stop the changes now. Anything that is being done is hopeless inadequate and 20 years too late.

You can all relax now.

Jarry, you have no idea and, as predicted, you have been sent along here to optimize the narrative to best suit your paymasters interests.

Well sunshine, you can go screw yourself and those c*nts that pay you. You are an abysmal little creep who wouldn't know integrity or even a real job if it jumped up and bit you in the face.

 

[Wolf]

Jarry, you have no idea and, as predicted, you have been sent along here to optimize the narrative to best suit your paymasters interests.

Well sunshine, you can go screw yourself and those c*nts that pay you. You are an abysmal little creep who wouldn't know integrity or even a real job if it jumped up and bit you in the face.

Comical isn't getting the attention it craves on the Uki and IDF terrorist threads so it's on these ones begging....

 

[Mad as Fish]

Comical isn't getting the attention it craves on the Uki and IDF terrorist threads so it's on these ones begging....

With every new 'thing' the Jarry/CW creature climbs aboard all sweetness, light and plausibility, as we see here. But soon enough the mask will slip and it will be revealed as the nasty little b'stard pushing whatever he is told to, irrespective of any prevailing counter arguments, sense or even plain truths.

So lets speed that process up and call it out for what it is here and now, a senseless goon for big money.

 

[Professor]

But there's nothing to be actually done to stop the changes now.

True, it's out of government control and is in the hands of Ai

Anything that is being done is hopeless inadequate and 20 years too late.

Never too late to start building Corks flood defences - A stormy winter might get things moving.

You can all relax now.

Relax, how? Farmers are stressed, flood victims are stressed, councils are stressed, prosperity has been scuppered.

Countries have to defend themselves!

Sweden rejects pioneering test of solar geoengineering tech

Under pressure from indigenous people and environmental groups, Sweden's space agency on Wednesday called off a landmark first test of technology that could pave the way for efforts to slow global warming by dimming sunlight reaching Earth.

www.reuters.com

Åsa Larsson Blind, vice president of the Saami Council, said in a statement that such technological fixes were “completely against what we need to do now - transform to zero-carbon societies in harmony with nature”.
Other critics - fearing it could set back efforts to cut emissions and threaten food security and nature - called the decision “really significant”.
“It shows there is simply no appetite for that technology. We don’t think it needs further research. We know enough about its dangers,” said Lili Fuhr, an environmental policy expert at the Heinrich Böll Foundation in Germany.

 

[Mad as Fish]

True, it's out of government control and is in the hands of Ai


Never too late to start building Corks flood defences - A stormy winter might get things moving.


Relax, how? Farmers are stressed, flood victims are stressed, councils are stressed, prosperity has been scuppered.

Countries have to defend themselves!

Sweden rejects pioneering test of solar geoengineering tech

Under pressure from indigenous people and environmental groups, Sweden's space agency on Wednesday called off a landmark first test of technology that could pave the way for efforts to slow global warming by dimming sunlight reaching Earth.

www.reuters.com

Åsa Larsson Blind, vice president of the Saami Council, said in a statement that such technological fixes were “completely against what we need to do now - transform to zero-carbon societies in harmony with nature”.
Other critics - fearing it could set back efforts to cut emissions and threaten food security and nature - called the decision “really significant”.
“It shows there is simply no appetite for that technology. We don’t think it needs further research. We know enough about its dangers,” said Lili Fuhr, an environmental policy expert at the Heinrich Böll Foundation in Germany.

True, it's out of government control and is in the hands of Ai


Never too late to start building Corks flood defences - A stormy winter might get things moving.


Relax, how? Farmers are stressed, flood victims are stressed, councils are stressed, prosperity has been scuppered.

Countries have to defend themselves!

Sweden rejects pioneering test of solar geoengineering tech

Under pressure from indigenous people and environmental groups, Sweden's space agency on Wednesday called off a landmark first test of technology that could pave the way for efforts to slow global warming by dimming sunlight reaching Earth.

www.reuters.com

Åsa Larsson Blind, vice president of the Saami Council, said in a statement that such technological fixes were “completely against what we need to do now - transform to zero-carbon societies in harmony with nature”.
Other critics - fearing it could set back efforts to cut emissions and threaten food security and nature - called the decision “really significant”.
“It shows there is simply no appetite for that technology. We don’t think it needs further research. We know enough about its dangers,” said Lili Fuhr, an environmental policy expert at the Heinrich Böll Foundation in Germany.

Carbon is life, simple as that. All this talk of 'de-carbonisation' is the most ignorant poppycock currently out there.

Every cell of our being uses carbon as an energy source, are we meant to stop using sugar and starch in a bid to cut down our carbon footprint? Let those who think so try it first, the worms will be glad of the meal.

We need to recycle it, just as nature does, not build ever more grotesque monuments to mans folly in the shape of wind turbines, solar panels and the rape of the earth for rare minerals.

Get real people, this carbon nonsense is the talk of mankind's ruination, not salvation.

 

[Professor]

Carbon is . . .

A trace gas? It's at about 0.04% of atmosphere - Negligible?
Wake us up when we see an increase up to 0.40% or should be possible if we're sooo baaaad to see 1.0%??

But no it's apparently only 0.04% - 0.06%

The thing is though, there are other forms of human caused changeability to consider.
The global population has doubled in 50 years like never seen before as we evolve swiftly toward the singularity.
Now the atmosphere and oceans have been salted by human activities, Carbon is the least of our worries as humanity continues to cook the planet(and many of it's inhabitants)

 

[Mad as Fish]

A trace gas? It's at about 0.04% of atmosphere - Negligible?
Wake us up when we see an increase up to 0.40% or should be possible if we're sooo baaaad to see 1.0%??

But no it's apparently only 0.04% - 0.06%

The thing is though, there are other forms of human caused changeability to consider.
The global population has doubled in 50 years like never seen before as we evolve swiftly toward the singularity.
Now the atmosphere and oceans have been salted by human activities, Carbon is the least of our worries as humanity continues to cook the planet(and many of it's inhabitants)

We humans are puny in the great scale of things.

"There are an estimated 550 gigatons of carbon of life in the world"

Of which mankind constitutes just 0.06 Gt tonnes.

All life on Earth, in one staggering chart

Scientists estimated the mass of all life. It’s mind boggling.

www.vox.com

We are not cooking the planet, there are a 1,001 other factors involved in the climate, but it is far easier just to ignore them and push for the great carbon credit schemes to be controlled by....? No, I don't know either, but we'll have no say in it.

 

[Professor]

We are not cooking the planet,

Aah but you missed the 3.5B is now 7.5 Billion in only 50 years bit. All those extra mouths to feed demand extra resources which are proving troublesome to provide.
The atmosphere and surface are constantly subjected to humanity's industries, chemicals, radioactivity, electromagnetism. - The insect and bee counts are ways down as is Man's sperm count,
Air, water and soil samples show the pollution - That's a source of cooking life's golden goose.

 

[jpc]

A trace gas? It's at about 0.04% of atmosphere - Negligible?
Wake us up when we see an increase up to 0.40% or should be possible if we're sooo baaaad to see 1.0%??

But no it's apparently only 0.04% - 0.06%

The thing is though, there are other forms of human caused changeability to consider.
The global population has doubled in 50 years like never seen before as we evolve swiftly toward the singularity.
Now the atmosphere and oceans have been salted by human activities, Carbon is the least of our worries as humanity continues to cook the planet(and many of it's inhabitants)

And it's worth mentioning mass deforestation draining marshes, removing mangrove forests just off the top of my head.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Aah but you missed the 3.5B is now 7.5 Billion in only 50 years bit. All those extra mouths to feed demand extra resources which are proving troublesome to provide.
The atmosphere and surface are constantly subjected to humanity's industries, chemicals, radioactivity, electromagnetism. - The insect and bee counts are ways down as is Man's sperm count,
Air, water and soil samples show the pollution - That's a source of cooking life's golden goose.

But the remarkable thing is that we are feeding those extra mouths without that much trouble really, mass starvation has been forecast for years and yet it hasn't happened.

There is a lot that is wrong with the food supply situation, 30% of it is wasted between the field and table for instance, but it is working, and to reduce population growth we need prosperity for all, as that pushes down birth rates.

As for those items you mention I would agree, they need addressing. Binning your mobile is a small step towards cutting down the electromagnetism, ditching wind turbines will do wonders for the insect population, abandoning the mad rush for electric cars will help cut down the rape of the land for precious metals and cut out the need for toxic chemicals to recycle the batteries and so on.

 

[Tiger]

But the remarkable thing is that we are feeding those extra mouths without that much trouble really, mass starvation has been forecast for years and yet it hasn't happened.

There is a lot that is wrong with the food supply situation, 30% of it is wasted between the field and table for instance, but it is working, and to reduce population growth we need prosperity for all, as that pushes down birth rates.

As for those items you mention I would agree, they need addressing. Binning your mobile is a small step towards cutting down the electromagnetism, ditching wind turbines will do wonders for the insect population, abandoning the mad rush for electric cars will help cut down the rape of the land for precious metals and cut out the need for toxic chemicals to recycle the batteries and so on.

The overpopulation myth (as I’m sure you know) goes back to Thomas Malthus. Who has been proven way off in his predictions.

Even the UN’s own statistics show that there is currently enough arable land to sustain about 50 billion people. However that isn’t the problem. The problem is who is controlling the global distribution of food.

 

[Professor]

The overpopulation myth

It's not a myth, look at Ireland, Palestine, Ukraine, Africa - they're having a hard time growing food, housing, medical, economical, political it's all in one form of chaos or another.
Ireland certainly has reached it's limits (national debt limit too).

 

[clarke-connolly]

It's not a myth, look at Ireland, Palestine, Ukraine, Africa - they're having a hard time growing food, housing, medical, economical, political it's all in one form of chaos or another.
Ireland certainly has reached it's limits (national debt limit too).

Ireland has a scarce-ity of Irish People and way too many People NOT from Ireland.

 

[Wolf]

Ireland has a scarce-ity of Irish People and way too many People NOT from Ireland.

Over 12% of people living in Ireland aren't Irish.

 

[clarke-connolly]

Over 12% of people living in Ireland aren't Irish.

I would say if the figures were Counted Correctly and Honestly it would be a Lot More than that ~ ~ Nearer to 20% if the figures were done Honestly and Correctly.