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Very interesting, you can see the way Harriri is working his way around to thrashing nationalism, as the globalist agenda has to do. Also the importance of humans, over other species, is a very Christian concept, without Christianity the specialness about humans is apt to fray.

In the aforementioned book each being proved by the proofs is simply called X, and then you consolidate the Xs and the end of the proofs.

If you think the establishment don't rubbish the Church very deliberately and conciously here is an example: Not long ago, led by the Joe Duffy show, we had the usual gigantic wave of media hype screaming at the Catholic Church, in this case against Blackrock College in Dublin. There most of...

In theory being atheist is just holding an opinion like any other, in practice it can dominate a person's outlook on everything. In practice most will move from a belief in God to an overarching belief in law and a concensus in the establishment generally (because you are looking for a God...

Yes Zip there are a lot of other issues alright, but at least the basic fact that there must be a God is, as you say, establishable by these proofs if atheists were confident enough in their opinions to properly study them!

All of it was like that, there was only sound bites in the videos I saw.

So I invite you then to slot those figures into your new found insight into how probabilities work in helping us to distinguish between chance as opposed to design. We are just like that card player when he sees the three aces arise in the three consecutive hands. We can now solidly rule out...

Another scenario could be if you were walking along a street and you seemed to feel that the person behind you is walking in step with you, as if you are being followed. So you look at him and scratch you head and think probably not, how can I be sure anyway?, but you note his face just in case...

Anyway by popular demand [not!], I thought I might post about one of the other proofs, or 'ways' of Aquinas: "V. Proof from Final Causes, or the Teleological Argument, often known as Intelligent Design Not a few of the highly respected philosophers and scientists of history and the present...

Kangal "There are pumpkins in the world. For every pumpkin that we observe, there exists the possibility that there is another pumpkin bigger than it. This cannot be true of every pumpkin, however, since that would lead to an infinite regression of pumpkins. Therefore, there must be one pumpkin...

Aristotle wrote 8 famous books on physics, and then some on 'meta physics which brings us into theological territory.

Anyway since some don't seem to know how the laws of physics come into the proofs I hope I will be forgiven for posting this on one of the proofs, from www.orwellianireland.com/proofs.pdf . I. Proof from Motion (sometimes called ‘change’), or the Kinetological Argument The ancient Greeks...

If you read the aforementioned book you will see how much the great philosophers of the world tend to agree with those 5 ways. One of the ways does chime with the law of conservation of energy actually, as you will see if you study it.

I did watch a number of your videos but cannot remember the titles I am afraid, certainly Dawkins, I think on the Pat Kenny show, was on one. Ok so you reject the existence of God but not based, by your admission, on any great knowledge of your subject? Certainly not one you intend studying or...

Well I watched a couple of the videos you posted James and was going to reply to them but they just seemed very shallow. A few soundbites really that just weren't worth getting into. Maybe if you roll up your sleeves and properly master the Aquinas 5 ways or something, then you would have all...

Fishalt: "The best evidence for God is that there is order in the universe. There's actually no reason for this to be the case at all." I think you will find thats what the philosophers would call the Intelligent Design type argument? Although there would be other names for it I guess.

Thats a new one, I didn't know it was the Church's fault that the Dodo died out or whatever. Still you can add it to the list, certainly the establishment in this country for I would say half a century has blamed the Church for everything, so...

Anyway Fishalt you reckon Intelligent Design is the proof that could impress you? Did you get a chance to read from p.36 on in this book maybe: http://www.orwellianireland.com/proofs.pdf ?

Well this is going well...:-)

Yes fishalt, whatever about being religious or not I was wondering do you believe the existence of God? I just got the impression you were stuck between stages 1 and 2 there, between believing in God but not accepting Christianity as the true Church.