🦠 Covid 19 Vaccine Thread 💉

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That's the perfect childish response. Are you not listening to yourself?
You said 10% caught covid in a week. When challenged you had to backtrack and admit that Holohan said this might have happened (And if you checked the cases, it didn't happen).

Then you said the vaccines didn't work, using numbers that I showed were many times lower than just months earlier.

Then you admitted that all the restrictions were dropped pretty much after the Omicron
wave...inadvertently making the case that the population had come through that wave with very few acute or ICU cases.

At this point I had to stop. And I advise you to do the same. For the sake of your own embarrassment.
Childish? You're the person telling people to fuck off and amending their posts when you quote them!

1. The 10% figure was an approximate figure i.e. an estimate. I said as much at the very beginning of my first post. The point being that the man who more than any other in this country pushed for restrictions, and whose word was treated as the whole truth and nothing but the truth, maintained in a letter to the Minister for Health that 500,000 people may have caught Covid the previous week. Yet you dismiss estimates when it suits you, seeking "proof" when the introduction of public health restrictions were based on models and projections of what may happen. In typically pedantic fashion, you focus on a small part of what I wrote which is irrelevant to the implications arising from the article I quoted.

2. August 2020, no vaccines. August 2021, eight months into the jab campaign. Same time of year. Much more hospitalisations and serious cases despite being 18 months into the greatest overreaction this country has seen and being in one of the warmest months of the year. January 2021 is the middle of winter when the health system has always been "next to collapse etc. and the jab campaign had only gotten under way. First you said numbers were "higher", now "lower". You've confused yourself. What are you trying to say? Any idiot can see you're not comparing like with like for reasons outlined previously.

3. The restrictions, in particular facemasks and social distancing, were introduced to supposedly slow the spread. Yet Holohan went on the public record with the estimated 500,000 figure. In that case, the two major non- pharma interventions were ineffective if the man who recommended their introduction was informing the govt that he reckoned roughly 10% of the population may have Covid, despite your bleating. I'll repeat, you dismiss estimates when it suits you, seeking "proof" when, in the first place, the introduction of these very restrictions you maintain are effective were based on models and projections of what may happen. Moreover these same restrictions were deemed ineffective by people like Holohan at the outset in the case of face masks or were based on an arbitrary number picked out of somebody's arse in the case of the 2m social distancing recommendation.
 

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Total number admitted to ICU437




"There are 206 patients hospitalised with coronavirus across the country.

Of these patients, 33 are receiving treatment in intensive care (ICU) after one person was discharged from ICU."

Wrong again.
how are the testing? Better not be the hockey PCR? Garbage in garbage out, for that test.
 

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"There are 206 patients hospitalised with coronavirus across the country.

Of these patients, 33 are receiving treatment in intensive care (ICU) after one person was discharged from ICU."

Wrong again.
'with' coronavirus you dumb fucking cunt, not 'from'.

What an arsehole.😂
 

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how are the testing? Better not be the hockey PCR? Garbage in garbage out, for that test.
The thick cunt was on here last week stating that disease cannot be diagnosed with a single test then went on to say that ConVid CAN be diagnosed by a single dodgy PCR test...😂
 

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"There are 206 patients hospitalised with coronavirus across the country.

Of these patients, 33 are receiving treatment in intensive care (ICU) after one person was discharged from ICU."

Wrong again.
What the hell are you at!?

First set of figures i.e. August 2020 are cumulative. (I've highlighted above, in bold print, the word "total" for ease of understanding).

Second set of figures from the Irish Examiner article from 10 August 2021 are the hospitalisation and ICU figures for THAT DAY. " There are 206 patients hospitalised with coronavirus across the country. Of these patients, 33 are receiving treatment in intensive care (ICU) after one person was discharged from ICU". I can't access the equivalent article for 10 August 2020 but here is the link to CSO statistics for August 2020.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/br/b-cdc/covid-19deathsandcasesseries10/

Note under the paragraph entitled 'Hospitalisations': "Last week, the week ending 21 August, 15 people were hospitalised, down from 666 people at the peak, the week ending 27 March. For the fourteenth week in a row there have been less than five people admitted to an Intensive Care Unit".

Now scroll down to Table 6 which shows there were only 10 people hospitalised in the entire week ending 14 August 2020".

You are not comparing like with like at all in that post. Either you are attempting to engage in deliberate misrepresentation or you are indeed a complete and utter moron who has no understanding of the subject matter you are linking. Either way, you've made a fool of yourself.
 

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What the hell are you at!?

First set of figures i.e. August 2020 are cumulative. (I've highlighted above, in bold print, the word "total" for ease of understanding).

Second set of figures from the Irish Examiner article from 10 August 2021 are the hospitalisation and ICU figures for THAT DAY. " There are 206 patients hospitalised with coronavirus across the country. Of these patients, 33 are receiving treatment in intensive care (ICU) after one person was discharged from ICU". I can't access the equivalent article for 10 August 2020 but here is the link to CSO statistics for August 2020.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/br/b-cdc/covid-19deathsandcasesseries10/

Note under the paragraph entitled 'Hospitalisations': "Last week, the week ending 21 August, 15 people were hospitalised, down from 666 people at the peak, the week ending 27 March. For the fourteenth week in a row there have been less than five people admitted to an Intensive Care Unit".

Now scroll down to Table 6 which shows there were only 10 people hospitalised in the entire week ending 14 August 2020".

You are not comparing like with like at all in that post. Either you are attempting to engage in deliberate misrepresentation or you are indeed a complete and utter moron who has no understanding of the subject matter you are linking. Either way, you've made a fool of yourself.
It doesn't understand the difference between people in hospital having PCR diagnosed ConVid after been tested on admission for many other reasons and being admitted to hospital because of ConVid.

It's a troll.
 

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Thanks Jim. It's great to see someone on top of the confirmed cases like this, and not pretending it was all a hoax.

It's refreshing.
Do explain how people were diagnosed with ConVid 19 again there, Charlottesweb.
Good lad.
 

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Tumbleweed......until some more deflection can be found....😂
 

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I'll ask Charlotteswed/M1A2/Gemini/Overlord/'Russkiy Mir' etc etc again to explain exactly how people were diagnosed with 'CoVid 19'?

I'm also asking him what the difference is between being admitted to hospital for a multitude of different reasons and then testing 'positive by PCR test' for CoVid 19 while there and being admitted WITH CoVid 19 as the only reason for being admitted?

There will be NO proper answer from the idiot because to post the honest answer will destroy his whole reason to exist.

A busted flush.
 

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The problem Charlotte has is that last week he stated here that there is not one single test used to diagnose a disease and that multiple tests, consultations and second opinions are needed to do so.

Then he stated that a single dodgy PCR test is sufficient to diagnose CoVid 19.

I'm sure he's furiously going through his posts from last week now and deleting where he stated this.
 

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I'll refer to post 1255.
As I said, a busted flush.
Embarrassing.:)
 

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All you need is right here, Wolf.

Embarrassing, Charlottesweb.
I'm going to do what you do, I'm reporting every one your posts on this thread to admin as trolling/baiting.
You are a fucking degenerate and perverted idiot. :)
 
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The problem Charlotte has is that last week he stated here that there is not one single test used to diagnose a disease and that multiple tests, consultations and second opinions are needed to do so.

Then he stated that a single dodgy PCR test is sufficient to diagnose CoVid 19.

I'm sure he's furiously going through his posts from last week now and deleting where he stated this.
I'll disagree with you here on the assumption that the Charlottesweb account on Pish was used by one person and the M1A2 account here is used by one person. I don't think they're the same person, at least Charlottesweb had some basic data analysis skills unlike the eejit here who doesn't understand the half of what he's posting, and that's being kind. I'm still laughing at post #1238! Jesus Christ, what a complete moron.
 

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Jim, I have to apologise but I did lead you on here. I could see you seemed invested in talking about case numbers in contrast to everyone else. So I gave you a open goal to see if you'd take it.

If it was MAF or jpc or Wolf, for example, they would have replied with something vague and disingenuous because they have no understanding or want to avoid the truth. You stepped right up though.

Thanks. But also sorry again.
Ah give it up lad. Open goal my hole. You tried to be a smart arse and were caught out, and you know it.
 

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Jim, I have to apologise but I did lead you on here. I could see you seemed invested in talking about case numbers in contrast to everyone else. So I gave you a open goal to see if you'd take it.

If it was MAF or jpc or Wolf, for example, they would have replied with something vague and disingenuous because they have no understanding or want to avoid the truth. You stepped right up though.

Thanks. But also sorry again.
Nobody here wants to be your friend.
Deal with it, Charlottesweb
 

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It was an excellent post and really puts it up to others here. You missed one obvious point which is that there were only 300 ICU beds total in the country more or less in 2020-2021. Was hoping you'd catch that.
It wasn't that obvious to you if you had to edit your original post to put in that statistic. Anyway it's neither here nor there, it's not relevant.
 

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That makes zero sense.

Would you prefer if I had put it in a new post?

Because that would make zero difference to the point being made.

I'm suddenly doubting your intellect again.
It makes perfect sense. If it was obvious to you, you would have put it into your original post, especially with your overinflated ego.
 

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So information has some best-before date, does it? 😂
It can only be brought up at a certain point? :rolleyes:

Or you are just kicking yourself for not seeing it?:D
You're clutching at straws at this point. You grasped some irrelevant statistic in between the original post and the edit to try and save face, as your open goal comment illustrates, because your uber pedantic nature has led you down some rabbit hole. If that stat was obvious to you, you would've taken fire out of your keyboard to post it, not come back later with an edit. That's the sort of asshole you are.

Anyway, what point are you trying to make? What link are you trying to establish? It's like trying to say that more people died in a certain town in a particular year because a new graveyard opened at the edge of town or less died because the graveyard filled up the previous year.

Edit: @Wolf the last few points by this boy definitely leads me to believe that Charlottesweb and this Russkiy character are not the same person. At least I could see where Charlottesweb was trying to go in her misguided official Ireland unicorn manner. Russkiy/ M1A2 goes off half-cocked in mad tangents.
 
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Well you are right there for once.

Look, I wanted you to come out out and explain covid cases in Ireland and you did. (y)

Everything else you posted is just futile angry reactions to being caught out as you were. Just get over it.

Angry, I was laughing my ass off! Caught out? You don't understand what cumulative figures represent. Post #1,238. I'd expect a Junior Cert Maths kid to know that.

If you don't post ridiculously incorrect comments, when you do comment as opposed to cutting and pasting, the best you can do is make vague irrelevant statements without any discernable meaning. e.g. what's the purpose of the link in your last post? It merely brings people into a suite of dashboards. Do you not think I can find them myself and have looked at them before, as in yesterday?Am I supposed to be a psychic? What argument are you trying to make?

At this stage, I think you're a time waster and a very immature one at that. The mismatch between your ego and interpretative and analytical abilities is one of the largest I've come across in all my years. I'm still amazed there are idiots like you out there. The anonymity of internet fora seem to bring people like you out from under your rock however.

You are a great laugh though when you do actually comment, keep posting! Every village needs an idiot. There's a good lad. I'm finished with you however, it's Saturday and things to do.
 

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So please tell us more of the "effective immune response" which you introduced?

Good Day @Russkiy Mir, take a refreshing break from HSE lies, damn lies and statistics and engage with the broader real world.
You must be so well read on the subject that 5 minutes is probably all it will take to explain the really important stuff as you mentioned above?
 

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Anyway, here's what you want to know.
It certainly doesn't cover or say enough regarding (in your terms) the "effective immune response" but it does note a temporary rise in spike protein after a jab - which is no surprise since the body has been injected with poisonous toxins.

Now how about telling us more about the human bodies "effective immune response" or is a blinding science all you've got today?
Have I missed something in the study you linked to? - what do you find we need to understand in relation to the study, what is of importance?

I have answered your questions but what's missing, ask again, no problem is there?
 

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I keep explaining things to you, but you keep avoiding my own questions.

What questions?

How about my simple question? Are you still trying to find answers in that linked study of yours? Good luck:giggle:

science study.jpg
 

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Why Buddy?

I keep explaining things to you, but you keep avoiding my own questions.

Anyway, here's what you want to know.

Good lad Charlottesweb. Good lad.
 

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Good lad Charlottesweb. Good lad.

A M1A2 requires 4 crew to keep it rolling 24/7, Charlottesweb - Tank - TTauri - Russomir. One or two are bots while the other human operators only appear occasionally, is how it looks.
The bot is currently on duty and cannot tell its ass from its elbow unless it sources programs from Twitz or ChatGPT studies'r'us.

Today being Saturday we should expect plenty of bot - If we give it sensible-counter questions watch it either disappear or toast itself on overload 💥 🔥🤖🔥
😂😅
 

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A M1A2 requires 4 crew to keep it rolling 24/7, Charlottesweb - Tank - TTauri - Russomir. One or two are bots while the other human operators only appear occasionally, is how it looks.
The bot is currently on duty and cannot tell its ass from its elbow unless it sources programs from Twitz or ChatGPT studies'r'us.

Today being Saturday we should expect plenty of bot - If we give it sensible-counter questions watch it either disappear or toast itself on overload 💥 🔥🤖🔥
😂😅
Chat GPT would explain a lot.
We do know it's incapable of independent thought.
 

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A M1A2 requires 4 crew to keep it rolling 24/7, Charlottesweb - Tank - TTauri - Russomir. One or two are bots while the other human operators only appear occasionally, is how it looks.
The bot is currently on duty and cannot tell its ass from its elbow unless it sources programs from Twitz or ChatGPT studies'r'us.

Today being Saturday we should expect plenty of bot - If we give it sensible-counter questions watch it either disappear or toast itself on overload 💥 🔥🤖🔥
😂😅
If the account(s) are relying on AI to maintain a presence then we are not dealing with humans and I see little reason why they should not be closed down.
 

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Do you have any evidence its deliberate?

Where exactly in the Pfizer documents does it say 1 baby survived out of 33?

Any comments on the Covid studies I've given you?

Any update on your "covid is flu" thesis?
Whether covid is flu or not is simply irrelevant, the PCR test could not tell the difference and the whole response was based on that one single and totally unreliable indicator.
 

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