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Oh, sure he presented a flurry of studies claiming to show viral DNA and specific covid viruses in situ but when asked to select the crucial sections from the many many studies to show and explain how mrna covid vaccines functioned to provide efficacy & safety against his viruses . . .

well, I cannot remember any such instance of revelation or disclosure - When pressed he just spammed another 3 or 4 abstract model science studies per post which upon close examination were mostly hot air research showing very little of any relevance to the simple questions we posed.

Oh , he was totally scathing of any contrary data, and was determined to push the line that Unvaccinated were dying more and dying from covid only because of being unvaxxed.

Anything flipping Fauci and his CDC endorsed TTauri pushed until . . . Fauci actually started to back track when he stated the reduced efficacy time & time again till even fauci looked hopelessly into the camera and mooted that Vaccines do help to recover quicker and not get so sick at best which proved totally untrue for many who ended up in hospital in a critical condition - when fauci himseld quietly climbed off from the pedestal and shlinked away in defeat TTauri then started to go into overdrive to keep it up - It's great gas🤔
I only have the slightest acquaintance with proper statistical methodology yet time and again I could point to huge flaws in the ā€˜science’ being presented. It was the constant bombardment of nonsense that carried the day for the establishment and he was part of that effort. I also always suspected that he had help, there were people behind the scenes with the right papers and expertise to put up what seemed credible counter arguments, and I often think the same of Larry’s constant stream of tweets. It’s all BS at the end of the day but the trick is to keep things moving at a pace which doesn’t give people time think, and we see that now with the mountain of legislation coming our way.
 

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I only have the slightest acquaintance with proper statistical methodology yet time and again I could point to huge flaws in the ā€˜science’ being presented.
Do you remember the SwineFlu pandemic of 2010? There was Adversity for many with those Vaxxes, notably there was 100's of cases of narcolepsy for unfortunate jabbee's but our authorities didn't look after them or fully acknowledge the cause & actual effect that set alarm bells ringing for me in regard to 'expert opinion'.
Those rolled out experts(p.luke🤔) are not convincing at all and with the way the establishment were carelessly flouting the cautions we knew that the virus wasn't so serious - we sensed spoofery at many points.

All the above and more was presented to Parrots who couldn't acknowledge any of it.
Any skeptics were threatened as dangerous influences who could be partially responsible for killing other people when all along the skeptics were quite correct in a variety of ways

I just found this to remind us of the bigger picture on the issues.

I wonder if "Granny" on P.ish was one of these . . .


It is less than a decade since anti-vaccine campaigners began targeting the then new HPV vaccine for teenage girls. Using social media to deliver an emotion-laden message directly to parents, they claimed hundreds of girls had suffered chronic ill-health after taking the cervical cancer vaccine.

Despite the absence of any evidence of a causal link between the girls’ symptoms and the vaccine, uptake of the vaccine plummeted from 87 per cent to 50 per cent, as vaccine hesitancy grew.

It took a sustained response from medics, pro-vaccine advocates and the likes of Laura Brennan, the young Clare woman who became the poster girl for the HPV vaccine before succumbing to cervical cancer, before rates started rising again.

The issue died away, but rumbles on. Regret, the group set up by parents alleging harm from the HPV vaccine, told The Irish Times this week "many" of their daughters "remain in chronic ill-health" and that "many cases have been lodged with the courts".

ā€œWe have concerns that a rushed ā€˜warp speed’ vaccine, which has not undergone long-term testing or testing for non-specific effects, may not meet the necessary safety standard,ā€ the group said in a statement.

Today, the controversy around Covid-19 has breathed new life into the anti-vaccine cause. Information sheets have been dusted down, websites spruced up and, across Europe and the US, people have taken to the streets.

On an overcast Saturday afternoon earlier this month, those opposed to a vaccine were prominent among the anti-lockdown protesters outside the Custom House in Dublin.

ā€œStick your vaccine up your arse,ā€ one of the musicians playing at the rally shouted, to general amusement in the crowd.

The rally was jointly organised by Health Freedom Ireland (HFI), a group composed of longstanding vaccine sceptics that says its mission is to provide "impartial information" on the issue.

We have been accused of being far left and far right but we have no political agenda
Co-founder Maeve Murran told the rally HFI's aim was to "inform, educate and support people around vaccines and freedom of choice".

ā€œWe have been accused of being far left and far right but we have no political agenda. We are committed to the provision of truth through the dissemination of legitimate scientific information,ā€ she said.

The group responded at length to questions from The Irish Times and published the answers, with footnotes, on its website.

It claims ā€œmany parentsā€ are highly concerned about the number of vaccines recommended for their children, that ā€œmany Irish childrenā€ are suffering side-effects and that ā€œtransparency and unbiased information is not always forthcoming from either the HSE or our healthcare professionalsā€.
 
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@Kangal This time the figures are sourced directly from the UK ONS
There's a huge flaw in this "analysis" and this kind of thing was discussed over on Pish many times. It comes up over and over and I'm not surprised to see nothing was learned.

In this case, here's a hint: what's the cohort of people that has had 3 or 4 shots in the UK?

the naked gun facepalm GIF


In general I can't keep slapping down this stuff over and over. After the stupidity shown by Tiger around the Norwegian mask study, I'm going to stop responding, unless something actually interesting (and true) is posted.
 
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So you are waiting for someone else to post.
I'll respond if someone actually comes up with something new that is not some rehashed rubbish, is not cherry picking data, or not some other obvious fallacy we have seen time and again.
 
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There's a huge flaw in this "analysis" and this kind of thing was discussed over on Pish many times. It comes up over and over and I'm not surprised to see nothing was learned.

In this case, here's a hint: what's the cohort of people that has had 3 or 4 shots in the UK?

the naked gun facepalm GIF


In general I can't keep slapping down this stuff over and over. After the stupidity shown by Tiger around the Norwegian mask study, I'm going to stop responding, unless something actually interesting (and true) is posted.
Keep running boy, the old squid trick of shooting ink into the water while you attempt an escape is pathetic, but once again just so you.
 

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I'll respond if someone actually comes up with something new that is not some rehashed rubbish, is not cherry picking data, or not some other obvious fallacy we have seen time and again.
Oooooh.... Love the projection.
 

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Ukraine getting the shit kicked out of it, Palestine is quiet, nothing happening in Mexico, the Dublin riot is yesterday's news.....Oh look, Charlottesweb is shitposting the ConVid thread........again.......šŸ˜‚
 
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So, no evidence of a direct connection.

Interestingly, there is a different connection.


"Figure 2, also from the website pandem-ic.com, shows the cumulative excess mortality—the sum of all deaths exceeding expectations—since January 2021. We can observe a negative correlation between vaccination and excess mortality. This means that there have been fewer excess deaths in highly vaccinated countries compared to less vaccinated countries."

"the results described above are sufficient to say that excess mortality data collected since the beginning of the vaccine rollouts contradict the claim. Rather, they are compatible with the hypothesis that COVID-19 vaccines are beneficial and reduce the overall number of deaths.

Published studies confirmed that observation. One study compared the mortality and vaccination coverage of 178 countries, correcting for the difference in life expectancy between countries. The authors also found that a higher vaccination rate correlated with lower excess mortality[1]. Another study found that the most vaccinated U.S. states had less excess mortality than the least vaccinated ones[2]."

It's the unvaccinated who are contributing to excess deaths.

I hadn't looked at this before but I'm glad you let me know about it.
A link to these 'studies' please.
 

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There's a huge flaw in this "analysis" and this kind of thing was discussed over on Pish many times.
Yes we discussed analysis bur notably you failed to respond on Adversity and you gave a very carefully measured poor response to Immunity, which comes as little surprise. . .

It comes up over and over and I'm not surprised to see nothing was learned.
We're in a constant state of revelation and learning. we knew much than you admit about Adversity and Immunity before 2019.
You are still covering your eyes in denial, refusing to learn, as if problems don't exist, hence the scorn you received then and now.

In general I can't keep slapping down this stuff over and over.

You cannot/will not slap down the facts. Deaths are up by 20% P.A. in regions and the Unvaccinated death rate is significantly lower than the vaccinated.

Until you acknowledge Adversity & Immunity your contribution on the subject becomes useless, misleading and malicious.

Off you go now🤨
 

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Ok, so the death rate has jumped 40%.

End of story.

And the story has ended here as regards shots as only 3% are so brain dead as to have taken the latest booster.

Now the story is people already with the booster turbo cancer.


I know well 3 exiting. An ex customer of maybe 60. The son of a customer at 27 and a friend of 55.

These are the known to me ones who have been told the obvious.

Numerous others are in the
" you have this" stage.

And we are only two years in, supposedly it is designed to hit about 4 or 5 years in.

So clowns can say, the death is too far removed from the kill shot blah blah blah blah.


If I took the shot and got turbo cancer, I would not go lonely.
 

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Ok, so the death rate has jumped 40%.

End of story.

And the story has ended here as regards shots as only 3% are so brain dead as to have taken the latest booster.

Now the story is people already with the booster turbo cancer.


I know well 3 exiting. An ex customer of maybe 60. The son of a customer at 27 and a friend of 55.

These are the known to me ones who have been told the obvious.

Numerous others are in the
" you have this" stage.

And we are only two years in, supposedly it is designed to hit about 4 or 5 years in.

So clowns can say, the death is too far removed from the kill shot blah blah blah blah.


If I took the shot and got turbo cancer, I would not go lonely.
Bullshit.
Charlottesweb says that's not true and we're all imagining things.
You better get your thinking straight or the CoVidian Cultists will call round and give you a straightener.šŸ‘
 
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'A new strain of swine flu was detected in a human in the UK, the country's health security agency said.

The strain of Influenza A (H1N2)v is similar to viruses currently circulating in pigs in the UK but is different from recent human cases of the virus.

The person who had this flu strain experienced mild illness and has fully recovered, the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) said.

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"Sequencing so far indicates some genetic differences to previous swine flu viruses that have spilled over to humans," said Punam Mangtani a professor of epidemiology at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine.

"It’s unusual to pick up such viruses, hence the need to check contacts and improve surveillance in that area to check whether there are more cases".

...

There have been a total of 50 human cases of influenza A(H1N2)v globally since 2005, according to the UKHSA, but none of them are "related genetically to this strain".

A 2009 pandemic was caused by an influenza A(H1N1) virus which was previously referred to as "swine flu". It is now a seasonal virus included in influenza vaccines.'

UK detects new strain of 'swine flu' in human for first time - Euronews


Nothing to worry about.
 

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They don’t have a good excuse for the record pneumonia in Dutch children​

November 30, 2023 Radagast Uncategorized 3

So, a few days ago I pointed out the record number of Dutch kids with pneumonia. It’s the highest number in three years, though I’m not sure they consistently monitored these numbers before 2019. In late 2022 when this was happening, the argument was ā€œRSV from resurgent lockdown debtā€.

 

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Dutch children begin to show signs of immunodeficiency​

November 23, 2023 Radagast Uncategorized 28

A short post on SARS2 today, but tomorrow I want to address something else.
As you know, me and plenty of other people warned society, but people went ahead and vaccinated Dutch children against SARS2. The vaccines were supposed to stop them from catching it. Then the vaccines failed to stop them from catching it. But, we were told, it still prevents severe disease! What is severe COVID? It means you get pneumonia. So what are we supposed to see? Less pneumonia. And what we do actually see? You guessed it.
 

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Read the bit about the BBC reaction to the truth.

 

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