Could Iran v Israel turn nuclear? A possible indication from the Occult/Masonic world

Trump's mistake is thinking you can do a "deal" with these Islamists. But that's not how they think. Listen to this Islamist for instance and their attitude to doing any kind of "deal".


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Radical islamism isn't interested in peace. The IRGC, the mullahs, which is the head of the snake, and the terrorist organizations they give rise to, like Hamas above, are fighting a Jihad, for Islamist supremacy. They won't stop.
 
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Impossible to tell, this situation seems to change by the hour. No doubt tho, this has been an almighty cluster fcuk for the US with China just sitting back and leaving them at it.
Israel realised that early on and jumped ship just a few days in, leaving Trump to flounder in the mess. It was a hrad lesson for him, America wasn't as great as he believed.
 
Impossible to tell, this situation seems to change by the hour. No doubt tho, this has been an almighty cluster fcuk for the US with China just sitting back and leaving them at it.
I cant see any way out for Trump.

Iran either maintains its control on the Straits or Trump offers them some other obscene concessions, like full sanctions relief and setting up a continuous air bridge to Tehran with planes stuffed with pallets of shrink-wrapped 100 dollar bills.

Whats the alternative? Bomb them? Again? They will just retaliate in kind throughout the region.

The only other option is to drop a nuke. Thats not really an option.
 
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Israel realised that early on and jumped ship just a few days in, leaving Trump to flounder in the mess. It was a hrad lesson for him, America wasn't as great as he believed.
i watch the true blue americans and listen to what they say ,
and they backed trump to the hilt and his drain the swamp--- and no more israeli wars---- and no more israeli ownership of the entire american financial and political infrastructure .
they believed he would return america to american hands --instead they got an mossad/Epstein slave to israel.
things went in a direction nobody could have predicted .
trump and his family quickly outdid hunter biden in the corruption stakes and became a smellier deeper swamp than the intolerable one under biden .
nobody gives a fuck anymore --it is mad shit 24/7 -- lets go and kidnap maduro and steal Venezuela --when will we get the chance again-- as his family head the RE INVESTMENT into Venezuela.
that snakelike reptilian satanic personage of kushner is at the forefront of every EVIL EVIL EVIL scam around the world from yesterday being told to fuck off by the entire soccer world who raged about his attempt to OWN the world cup by becoming a shareholder ,
to riots in albania about the island """THEY DISCOVERED """while swimming -- he laughingly describes himself as a property developer while trying to sell the rubble and corpses in gaza for CONDOS IN THE SUN on ground levelled for him by the dropping of the equivalent of 6 Hiroshima bombs on the previous residents dropped for free by his father in law for him and his kind .
this snake who serves only israel and has no diplomatic training or statecraft is picked by trump to lead discussions to avoid a world war -- its known he phones bibi before trump during any and all negotiations and the iranians have pointed this out repeatably as they note him leaving meetings to hold discussions with bibi and its reported by trump later when interviewed by journalists that they were with trump during many of these calls so its now known Kushner was not calling trump who has had to face a mass resignation of their top brass by the merging of the USA military and the zionists .
trump has passed the point of any rescue as he is at the not so tender mercy of the israelis who have the videos on him and his time with Epstein and co.
the yanks now see him for what he is -- a much worse nightmare than biden -- he and america are are completely owned by israel and they have had no mercy on the goyim anywhere on earth for the last few thousand years .
 
I cant see any way out for Trump.

Iran either maintains its control on the Straits or Trump offers them some other obscene concessions, like full sanctions relief and setting up a continuous air bridge to Tehran with planes stuffed with pallets of shrink-wrapped 100 dollar bills.

Whats the alternative? Bomb them? Again? They will just retaliate in kind throughout the region.

The only other option is to drop a nuke. Thats not really an option.
2 options I think, withdraw and claim some sort of (pretend) victory or nuke. I wouldn't rule out the nuke option at all, unfortunately, which would have massive unpredictable outcomes, not just for Iran, but Europe, and ourselves especially as there would likely be sanctions placed on the US if that's Trump's approach.....
 
2 options I think, withdraw and claim some sort of (pretend) victory or nuke. I wouldn't rule out the nuke option at all, unfortunately, which would have massive unpredictable outcomes, not just for Iran, but Europe, and ourselves especially as there would likely be sanctions placed on the US if that's Trump's approach.....
Well, "withdraw" only makes sense if you think Iran will just stop at controlling the Straits.

Which they won't, as they know they have a golden and possibly time-limited opportunity to leverage that control to bend the other Gulf countries to Irans will or even overthrow their governments.

Bahrain is obvious, large Shia majority there; Saudi has few million Shia that could be induced to rebel. In short, a lot of chaos would ensue, and oil and gas exports would stop, possibly for years.

Trump or the next President would either have to deal with that, or just totally cede influence in the region to China, who might now be the only country to keep Iran in check.
 
2 options I think, withdraw and claim some sort of (pretend) victory or nuke. I wouldn't rule out the nuke option at all, unfortunately, which would have massive unpredictable outcomes, not just for Iran, but Europe, and ourselves especially as there would likely be sanctions placed on the US if that's Trump's approach.....
@Haven is one of those leftists we should all be concerned about.

He's chomping at the bit for USrael to nuke Iran. He thinks it's a game of toy soldiers..
 
There is no question the war will continue, whatever about the periodic truces. One of the next stages is a limited ground invasion by the US, they will come via Pakistan into the extreme South East of Iran and then also probably into the North West, in the Kurdish area. This is not an invasion as such, its a staging area so they can at least think about more boots on the ground at a later point (because their usual bases in the Gulf are under attack of sorts, right now).

Lets hope the US doesn't engineer some 9/11 style false flag thing before that, as an excuse to start this phase.
 
It would be very unpopular if they used Pakistan to push troops into Iran. But I suppose they don't care about that. If they have troops on Iran's borders they are going to take more casualties. But they don't care about that either.
 
There is no question the war will continue, whatever about the periodic truces. One of the next stages is a limited ground invasion by the US, they will come via Pakistan into the extreme South East of Iran and then also probably into the North West, in the Kurdish area. This is not an invasion as such, its a staging area so they can at least think about more boots on the ground at a later point (because their usual bases in the Gulf are under attack of sorts, right now).

Lets hope the US doesn't engineer some 9/11 style false flag thing before that, as an excuse to start this phase.
No american controls america it is and has been israeli occupied territory for some time now.
its federal reserve passed from american hands in 1913 and remains in jewish hands since --most of the shares in this private bank are held by the new york fed entirely jewish owned -it is not federal and it has by its own admission NO RESERVES .
the 911 demolition of 6 yes six not 2 world trade buildings was a israeli operation.
i am writing about this in time and i personally went the the offices of urban moving systems in Weehawken in new jersey with my wife and photographed where they went ,
as i have a heavily redacted copy of the FBI report dealing with urban moving systems inc and this is the only official document dealing with the persons who had prior knowledge of the event and who admitted this on israeli tv "" WE WERE SENT TO DOCUMENT THE EVENT "".
They knew to the second-- WHICH DAY -WHICH CITY -WHICH BUILDING --WHAT WAS TO BE USED TO DESTROY -- they knew from which direction which height which building first --in short they knew everything and set up their viewing point in liberty park on the new jersey side as this protected them and allowed a perfect view as they knew beforehand this would give them the best camera footage .
it was also admitted on haaretz the israeli newspaper that the infamous hebrew only messaging service ODIGO sent a warning correct to the minute that morning to 4000 hebrew speaking workers in the trade centers and none of them turned up for work and they all survived .
what you must understand is that not one of these 4000 passed on the warning to colleagues at work who all perished -- no warning was sent to the police or fire brigade --but they all stayed away and survived --no jourlinast covers this as they are too afraid --- NOW YOU HAVE TO ASK WHO THE FUCK ARE THEY AFRAID OF ---THE ESKIMOS MAYBE .
The famous NSA who receive billions in funding and we are told they can listen to mouse farts and register a change in the mouse diet --these people monitor ALL and i mean ALL electronic communication in the USA and they would have monitored ODIGO HEBREW MESSAGING SERVICE AS A PRIORITY.
Again no media is allowed to query this -its a non topic .
how you know for sure who did 911 --you ask all the PROFESSORS in the universities who when retired will ask you not to quote their comment that to touch 911 IS LIKE GRABBING THE THIRD RAIL .
this in plain speak means there are phds written and submitted for students docororates on every topic from the width of blades of grass to the breeding and sexual lives of porcupines and llamas and fleas -- but NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NOT A SINGLE WORD ABOUT 911 --it is academic death to touch it as everyone EVERYONE KNOWS WHO DID IT .
and everyone will know who does the next 911.
 
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Well, "withdraw" only makes sense if you think Iran will just stop at controlling the Straits.

Which they won't, as they know they have a golden and possibly time-limited opportunity to leverage that control to bend the other Gulf countries to Irans will or even overthrow their governments.

Bahrain is obvious, large Shia majority there; Saudi has few million Shia that could be induced to rebel. In short, a lot of chaos would ensue, and oil and gas exports would stop, possibly for years.

Trump or the next President would either have to deal with that, or just totally cede influence in the region to China, who might now be the only country to keep Iran in check.
Yes, Iran will ultimately control the straits, I think that is a given, bar a nuke, of course. Trump could just turn around and take Greenland, leave Iran in control of the straits, the world will forget and wonder why the NATO powerhouse has just taken an island under the control of a fellow nato member in Denmark. TBH, I won't rule anything out.... Anything..
 
Yes they might take Greenland, according to that old Occultic, technocracy, map. That's where I differ with you, Big Far Hoor, I think its the Occult that controls the US, not the Jews, although there is some crossover obviously.
 
2 options I think, withdraw and claim some sort of (pretend) victory or nuke. I wouldn't rule out the nuke option at all, unfortunately, which would have massive unpredictable outcomes, not just for Iran, but Europe, and ourselves especially as there would likely be sanctions placed on the US if that's Trump's approach.....
If it turns nuke then the world is finished, there will be nothing left of civilisation as we know it to place sanctions on! Business will not carry on as normal in a burnt out and contaminated world.
 
The West will not use nukes against Iran. Be serious. This is just Iranian and Russian propaganda speaking. Rather, if these jihadi fucking mullahs and their IRGC are catastrophically left run the country, there will be no realistic future option except to regularly "mow the grass" same as it used to be in Gaza (and may be in future). The plain truth is these guys are waging a global jihad. It is unrealistic to expect intelligent western leaders to just succumb to that. But nuclear weapons are generally understood to be off the table.
 
The West will not use nukes against Iran. Be serious. This is just Iranian and Russian propaganda speaking. Rather, if these jihadi fucking mullahs and their IRGC are catastrophically left run the country, there will be no realistic future option except to regularly "mow the grass" same as it used to be in Gaza (and may be in future). The plain truth is these guys are waging a global jihad. It is unrealistic to expect intelligent western leaders to just succumb to that. But nuclear weapons are generally understood to be off the table.
You are thinking logically here, but the entire Iran escapade was illogical from the beginning, what was the US motive to attack Iran in the first place? There was none, hence I fear anything could happen here. What it comes down to now, is re opening the strait at all costs.
 

View: https://youtu.be/V9qA64sGoYk?is=vM1g1ixxpoOTRFfE



Are ye not paying attention to this famous expert

the crucial part of your video which was very honest was your use of the words THE YOU KNOW WHOS .
As a fearless irishman and american resident you have shown us who occupies america and who holds the american people as slaves in their own country .
you are too afraid to state the names of your occupier/slavemaster .
you correctly stated what was told to general wesley Clarke an honest courageous american who served only america .
and all of these counrtries and gaza were destroyed using american wealth which rightly belongs to the poor of america .
the destruction of all these countries was matched by the destruction of the american working class and middle class in order to pay for the israelis wars.
the use of nukes by america as israelis slave will result in the destruction of america and israel.
the iranians are going to make the middle east unhabitable by taking out the desalination plants of all the countries --this is child's play to do .
as a result all the forign workers will have to return home and no arab can do or will do what a bangladeshi used to do in 50 degrees of heat and their state /FOOD SYSTEM/SANITATION/ daily life ceases to exist without WATER .
i have been to saudi and the uae and i have seen who does the work and who supervises them from an airconditioned box while dressed in a admirals full dress uniform.
the israelis dream of the destruction of most of the world's population --they pray for it hourly --they have at their disposal the resources of the most powerful country on earth for the use of their JEWISH BOMB Oppenheimer was not an eskimo and this weapon gives the chosen people the means to realise their dreams ,
no other weapon can do this and its at the core of their essence to possess this power.
 
Yes they might take Greenland, according to that old Occultic, technocracy, map. That's where I differ with you, Big Far Hoor, I think its the Occult that controls the US, not the Jews, although there is some crossover obviously.
thanks --who are the occult in america .
 
Yes absolutely, you know a complicating factor is that North Korea has said it will bomb the US if the US bombs Iran. That is a country we shouldn't forget about either...
china depends on the middle east for its survival --it will not allow israel to control china --if an invasion of iran takes place --for its own survival china has to enter the war .
russia will see the greatest chance in its history to fix their proxy war in ukraine with the west by supporting iran to the last as the americans used Afghanistan to destroy Russia's presence there .
the entire world is on Iran's side after israel/USA killed the NON NUCLEAR peaceful government and their pope/leader of 200 million shias who had the biggest funeral of any human being in world history ignored by our propaganda station RTE .
 
You are thinking logically here, but the entire Iran escapade was illogical from the beginning, what was the US motive to attack Iran in the first place? There was none, hence I fear anything could happen here. What it comes down to now, is re opening the strait at all costs.
Wtf do you mean there was no motive? They have been threatening America for years, not only getting their people to chant for their death, but in very real terms, including a loathsome propaganda (taken up by many idiots on here).

They have for decades pursued nuclear weapons, proliferated ballistic missiles, and supported and directed terrorist proxies across the middle east, bringing fucking mayhem.

They couldn't have been clearer about the intent of their Islamic "revolution" from the start, just examine their fatwahs - e.g. The Little Green Book of Iran

Even Biden and Obama were always, on the record, fully aware of the threat the Iranian regime posed, and of its insidious influence operations in the middle east, and around the world. They spoke at length about the insidiousness of the regime, just they thought they might do "deals" and so on.

Reallyt they were afraid to fully act as needed because it risked their own political skin.

And remember it's not just America and Israel that the mullahs have in the sights. E.g.

 
Wtf do you mean there was no motive? They have been threatening America for years, not only getting their people to chant for their death, but in very real terms, including a loathsome propaganda (taken up by many idiots on here).

They have for decades pursued nuclear weapons, proliferated ballistic missiles, and supported and directed terrorist proxies across the middle east, bringing fucking mayhem.

They couldn't have been clearer about the intent of their Islamic "revolution" from the start, just examine their fatwahs - e.g. The Little Green Book of Iran

Even Biden and Obama were always, on the record, fully aware of the threat the Iranian regime posed, and of its insidious influence operations in the middle east, and around the world. They spoke at length about the insidiousness of the regime, just they thought they might do "deals" and so on.

Reallyt they were afraid to fully act as needed because it risked their own political skin.

And remember it's not just America and Israel that the mullahs have in the sights. E.g.

But why did Trump attack at this very moment in time? What triggered this particular spat with Iran? Regime change, nuclear attainment, Israel's imminent attack on Iran, 3 excuses were given, none of them really plausible with regard to why the USA got involved in this precise moment. Possibly Trump was encouraged to do so after the very successful operation in Venezuela, but there's more to this then meets the eye. As for Iran threatening the USA...the USA has been responsible for hundreds of thousands of Iranian deaths through its support of Saddam Hussein's Iraq v Iran war. How many US citizens died directly or indirectly at the hands of Iran? If anything the USA has been the biggest threat to Iran.
 
You are thinking logically here, but the entire Iran escapade was illogical from the beginning, what was the US motive to attack Iran in the first place? There was none, hence I fear anything could happen here. What it comes down to now, is re opening the strait at all costs.
Nuclear war is not just stepping up to bigger bang bangs, it's a whole new ball game and wiser heads will prevail I'm sure. It has served as a deterrent since WW2, shifting it to an offensive role, even if possible, will change the whole doctrine of war and bring an end to civilisation we know it.
 
Wtf do you mean there was no motive? They have been threatening America for years, not only getting their people to chant for their death, but in very real terms, including a loathsome propaganda (taken up by many idiots on here).

They have for decades pursued nuclear weapons, proliferated ballistic missiles, and supported and directed terrorist proxies across the middle east, bringing fucking mayhem.

They couldn't have been clearer about the intent of their Islamic "revolution" from the start, just examine their fatwahs - e.g. The Little Green Book of Iran

Even Biden and Obama were always, on the record, fully aware of the threat the Iranian regime posed, and of its insidious influence operations in the middle east, and around the world. They spoke at length about the insidiousness of the regime, just they thought they might do "deals" and so on.

Reallyt they were afraid to fully act as needed because it risked their own political skin.

And remember it's not just America and Israel that the mullahs have in the sights. E.g.

Kinahan cartel?
 
You are thinking logically here, but the entire Iran escapade was illogical from the beginning, what was the US motive to attack Iran in the first place? There was none, hence I fear anything could happen here. What it comes down to now, is re opening the strait at all costs.
Nukes mean the two-man rule and the military chain of command doing what they are told.

That said, the way mid-term polls are going, Trump is likely to be impeached, so why not give it a lash?
 
But why did Trump attack at this very moment in time? What triggered this particular spat with Iran? Regime change, nuclear attainment, Israel's imminent attack on Iran, 3 excuses were given, none of them really plausible with regard to why the USA got involved in this precise moment.
Eh, wtf, do you have a brain?

7/10 happened, which was at root an Iranian attack. And the plan remember was:

"... Three months before the 2020 U.S. killing of Qassem Soleimani, Rashid recounts, the Quds Force commander laid out his life’s work. “I have assembled for you six armies outside Iran and I have created a corridor 1,500 kilometers long and 1,000 kilometers wide, all the way to the shores of the Mediterranean,” Soleimani told Iran’s army chiefs. “Any enemy that decides to fight against the Islamic Revolution, and against the sacred regime of the Islamic Republic of Iran, will have to go through these six armies. It won’t be able to do so.”


So immediately following the Hamas attacks, remember Trump deployed advanced aircraft carrier strike groups to the Eastern Mediterranean and the Middle East to deter Hezbollah, Iran, and these other regional proxies from entering the conflict!

That
action was the beginning of the Iranian plan failing, leading to the decimation of those six armies, and Iran itself..

Iran struck. Trump had to act.

GLHBvsZWIAAXaVk
 
Not forgetting all the other stuff they had going on to prepare for this attack.

E.g. “... While we were talking with the Europeans in Tehran, we were installing equipment in parts of the [nuclear conversion] facility in Isfahan. By creating a calm environment, we were able to complete the work there...” (Rouhani the leftists idea of a "moderate").

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I.e. For decades they were grooming their online useful idiots, just the same as they were propagandising and subverting the hordes in the middle east.

In fact you might picture these online hordes or armies (obviously you would be included in their number), in just the same way as you might picture the crowds below who the mullahs similarly targeted. Same shit, just online mostly (many of whom later mobilised for Iran on our own streets, as we saw.)


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djLqBeE_8RQ
 
But why did Trump attack at this very moment in time? What triggered this particular spat with Iran? Regime change, nuclear attainment, Israel's imminent attack on Iran, 3 excuses were given, none of them really plausible with regard to why the USA got involved in this precise moment. Possibly Trump was encouraged to do so after the very successful operation in Venezuela, but there's more to this then meets the eye. As for Iran threatening the USA...the USA has been responsible for hundreds of thousands of Iranian deaths through its support of Saddam Hussein's Iraq v Iran war. How many US citizens died directly or indirectly at the hands of Iran? If anything the USA has been the biggest threat to Iran.
trump promised no more wars for israel --no more of the swamp robbing poor and middle class americans this was his core value as a president --he was owned by mossad and Epstein due to his closeness to Epstein/mossad he was compromised and they would have put certain what americans describe as jailbait with him in order to own the presidency of the usa .
mossad visibly own the presidency of the usa and are currently before our eyes in a process of a reverse take over of its military of a 300 million person country by a 9 million population.
gaza is an Epstein wasteland after trump dropped 5 Hiroshima bombs worth of tnt on it --more than dropped on germany during world war 2 .
the world knows this is an Epstein presidency and having thousands of children murdered by a peadophile and THE CHILDREN KNEW FROM THEIR SMARTPHONES WHO WAS KILLING THEM AND WHY --- what a fucking disgusting death for children .
it has to be the most horrific thing to happen in our lifetimes all designed and operated by israel the satanic country.
 
thanks --who are the occult in america .
 
Pressing their advantage.


Iran has made a concerted diplomatic push with Gulf states, warning them explicitly that Tehran will hit their oil, power and water plants unless they convince Donald Trump to end U.S. strikes on Iran and instead seek a negotiated end to the war.

The ‌warning envisaged attacks on the energy facilities, oil fields, refineries, electricity grids, water infrastructure, transport networks and other strategic assets of Washington's closest Arab allies, according to a senior Iranian official.
 
Nukes mean the two-man rule and the military chain of command doing what they are told.

That said, the way mid-term polls are going, Trump is likely to be impeached, so why not give it a lash?
Again you are talking shythe. I have spiken to generals, admirals, captains and nuclear sub commanders.


All insist, that there would be no hesitation at all on pushing the button because the US could be about to be obliterated.

Instant push.
 
Nukes mean the two-man rule and the military chain of command doing what they are told.

That said, the way mid-term polls are going, Trump is likely to be impeached, so why not give it a lash?
Your Far Left commie buddies in the USA have tried to impeach Trump 19 times since 2017, Bunny.
What makes you think they'll succeed this time?

Isn't is shameful that all your Far Left commie buddies can offer their lower class voters is the impeachment of Trump?
Is that all they have, division, hatred and a serious dose of the TDS you yourself are suffering from?
Ain't that a shame!
 
Again you are talking shythe. I have spiken to generals, admirals, captains and nuclear sub commanders.


All insist, that there would be no hesitation at all on pushing the button because the US could be about to be obliterated.

Instant push.
Did I say that two-man rule and the military chain of command doing what they are told, would not occur?

Dec, this would be a unilateral, by choice, launch of a nuke, against a country in the Middle East that can't retaliate in kind.

Not Cold War style all out retaliation to the Russians or Chinese attacking with everything they have.

Either way it goes, launch or disobey orders, it would be the mother of all shitshows. As I said, why not give it a lash?
 
Eh, wtf, do you have a brain?

7/10 happened, which was at root an Iranian attack. And the plan remember was:

"... Three months before the 2020 U.S. killing of Qassem Soleimani, Rashid recounts, the Quds Force commander laid out his life’s work. “I have assembled for you six armies outside Iran and I have created a corridor 1,500 kilometers long and 1,000 kilometers wide, all the way to the shores of the Mediterranean,” Soleimani told Iran’s army chiefs. “Any enemy that decides to fight against the Islamic Revolution, and against the sacred regime of the Islamic Republic of Iran, will have to go through these six armies. It won’t be able to do so.”


So immediately following the Hamas attacks, remember Trump deployed advanced aircraft carrier strike groups to the Eastern Mediterranean and the Middle East to deter Hezbollah, Iran, and these other regional proxies from entering the conflict!

That
action was the beginning of the Iranian plan failing, leading to the decimation of those six armies, and Iran itself..

Iran struck. Trump had to act.

GLHBvsZWIAAXaVk
Ffs, bulls scutter.
not once was 7/10 referenced as the reason for the "US" Attack on Iran. Sure, Isreal might have had a grudge v Iran over 7/10, but that's nothing to do with the US attack on Iran..... Nothing.
 
Fucking idiots. Round and round it goes. E.g.

"Hitler has not attacked us. Why attack Hitler?" NYC protest, July 7, 1941.​

hitler-has-not-attacked-us-why-attack-hitler-nyc-protest-v0-widg1cvh4suc1.jpeg
 
Fucking idiots. Round and round it goes. E.g.

"Hitler has not attacked us. Why attack Hitler?" NYC protest, July 7, 1941.​

hitler-has-not-attacked-us-why-attack-hitler-nyc-protest-v0-widg1cvh4suc1.jpeg

If the US had not entered the war against Hitlerite regime and the saturation bombing over civilian targets in Germany had not commenced it is very unlikely that the Wannsee Conference would have taken place with all that flowed from it. So that photo is not the "gotcha" you think it is.
 

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