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Tiger said:
According to RTE, early indications are that in the local elections, Sharia Fein and FG are doing well. Irish people really are that retarded.
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Irish society has a general feeling of insecurity, it needs to think of itself a comfy little club where those nice people from RTE will point out who all the horrible people are and what lovely warm competent folk we have as politicians. Yes, they might not always get things right, but doesn't every family have an uncle that lapses in some some way?
 
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Tiger said:
According to RTE, early indications are that in the local elections, Sharia Fein and FG are doing well. Irish people really are that retarded.
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Possibly trying to set a narrative = = A lot of People just read the headlines about a subject, and even just the first headlines that come out about a subject.

Of course Rte is desperate to " " Save " " the main stream parties.
 
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So, the elections are finished for the time being. The locals and the EP elections are two very different types, with local elections being much more about personal affinity and 'lived space' than the Euros.

It might be useful to place ballot boxes, while being stored prior to the count, in a locked warehouse and put a webcam on them. That might diffuse any concerns, especially in an environment troubled by them. It would be a reasonable step.

The key strategic issue for these elections in Ireland is neutrality. All the "she stole my comb" politics is either asinine or fatalistic. This D-Day commemoration - a key date in the liberation of Europe from technocratic totalitarianism - very much had the theme of a parallel with the situation in Ukraine, with Zelenskyy playing the role of Churchill. That all speaks of a vector towards general warfare where global borders seize up into frozen conflicts or theater warfare.

So, a decisive shift towards a state of war (rather than a state of peace) in political affairs, which will entrench the current arrangement of personages and patronage systems. This has been in the cards for a couple of decades now and seems to have really been behind the Neocon putsch in the States. While the common good may be profoundly injured - with a contraction of domestic economic output and personal dignity, the interests of "the party" will be secured with more coercive methods of control becoming increasingly available.

What can we do about it? Probably very little except to maintain the sort of foreign policy that was adopted prior to and during the Emergency when DeValera was on it. Neutrality has to remain a very respectable position, rather than being one predominately instrumentalised by radicals to nurture wedges. It has to be a sturdy point of consensus that is recognised by everyone as a vital interest. I think we're there or thereabouts on it currently but it does need to remain on everyone's mind.

The recognition of Palestine was not unreasonable, if the purpose was to promote an orderly resolution to the conflict there. The triumvirate of Ukraine, the Levant and Taiwan will pitch the world into open confrontation, and we are only waiting for something to happen in the Far East for these to coalesce.

I've speculated that the disintegration of a structured immigration policy, as well as acting as a solvent to confuse and weaken domestic opposition, will ultimately cultivate a very harsh regimen as the regions affected shift into a state of war. These migrants may find themselves in a very uncomfortable position, especially with blatant and naive liberty-taking evident, when general mobilisation becomes the official policy and militaristic jingoism the plat du jour. The present permissive jingoism of the sedated courtiers of curated opinion will not survive a general alert.

There is an inflection point also coming up in the run up to the American Presidential election. It might all unwind without serious upset, but it could go tits up very quickly. We should be careful in our contingency planning and carry on like everything is going to be fine for the time being but remain wary and prudent in the face of any new excitements. Triviality is not a quality that secures an independent life and is a severe handicap in serious times.
 
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clarke-connolly said:
Possibly trying to set a narrative = = A lot of People just read the headlines about a subject, and even just the first headlines that come out about a subject.

Of course Rte is desperate to " " Save " " the main stream parties.
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Good point.
 
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tldr said:
So, the elections are finished for the time being. The locals and the EP elections are two very different types, with local elections being much more about personal affinity and 'lived space' than the Euros.

It might be useful to place ballot boxes, while being stored prior to the count, in a locked warehouse and put a webcam on them. That might diffuse any concerns, especially in an environment troubled by them. It would be a reasonable step.

The key strategic issue for these elections in Ireland is neutrality. All the "she stole my comb" politics is either asinine or fatalistic. This D-Day commemoration - a key date in the liberation of Europe from technocratic totalitarianism - very much had the theme of a parallel with the situation in Ukraine, with Zelenskyy playing the role of Churchill. That all speaks of a vector towards general warfare where global borders seize up into frozen conflicts or theater warfare.

So, a decisive shift towards a state of war (rather than a state of peace) in political affairs, which will entrench the current arrangement of personages and patronage systems. This has been in the cards for a couple of decades now and seems to have really been behind the Neocon putsch in the States. While the common good may be profoundly injured - with a contraction of domestic economic output and personal dignity, the interests of "the party" will be secured with more coercive methods of control becoming increasingly available.

What can we do about it? Probably very little except to maintain the sort of foreign policy that was adopted prior to and during the Emergency when DeValera was on it. Neutrality has to remain a very respectable position, rather than being one predominately instrumentalised by radicals to nurture wedges. It has to be a sturdy point of consensus that is recognised by everyone as a vital interest. I think we're there or thereabouts on it currently but it does need to remain on everyone's mind.

The recognition of Palestine was not unreasonable, if the purpose was to promote an orderly resolution to the conflict there. The triumvirate of Ukraine, the Levant and Taiwan will pitch the world into open confrontation, and we are only waiting for something to happen in the Far East for these to coalesce.

I've speculated that the disintegration of a structured immigration policy, as well as acting as a solvent to confuse and weaken domestic opposition, will ultimately cultivate a very harsh regimen as the regions affected shift into a state of war. These migrants may find themselves in a very uncomfortable position, especially with blatant and naive liberty-taking evident, when general mobilisation becomes the official policy and militaristic jingoism the plat du jour. The present permissive jingoism of the sedated courtiers of curated opinion will not survive a general alert.

There is an inflection point also coming up in the run up to the American Presidential election. It might all unwind without serious upset, but it could go tits up very quickly. We should be careful in our contingency planning and carry on like everything is going to be fine for the time being but remain wary and prudent in the face of any new excitements. Triviality is not a quality that secures an independent life and is a severe handicap in serious times.
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It's all OK.
Until suddenly it's not seems to be the case right now.
The major nation western world leaders are morons to a man and woman.
Is that by selection?
 
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And stenson is likely in as well, we are going to have a good day in my opinion, those three alone even would be fantastic
 
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Thought they were not not counting these to tomorrow?

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It would be some kick in the balls if Pepper gets in
 
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One thing apparent from these results is that SF is done.

If they have any aspiration to do well in the GE they need to replace Mary Lou and unite as a true nationalist party and forget all the nonsense of woke and their love of immigrants.
 
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Lightweights Nina Carberry & Maria Walsh doing very well in Sligo. In the mainly rural Ballymote- Tubbercurry electoral area, 3 Fianna Failers & 1 FG are fighting for the last remaining council seat. Some things never change around here.
 
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I am in Newport touring so cant follow clisely but it looks like we have plenty to celebrate
 
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jpc said:
It's all OK.
Until suddenly it's not seems to be the case right now.
The major nation western world leaders are morons to a man and woman.
Is that by selection?
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I think so as the strong charismatic leader is a distant memory --they all seem to agree that the job is purchased from your rulers by selling your soul .
i listened to colonel MC Gregor beg publicly for patriotic wealthy Americans to club together to defeat the Jewish donor class who control all foreign policy and all domestic policy and fund AIPAC to destroy any loyal patriot who would run against them .
he pleads publicly for support to SAVE AMERICA from its present ownership - its pitiful to watch..
 

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