General Election 2024

Who would get your number 1 in the General Election

  • Fine Gael

  • Fianna Fáil

  • Sinn Féin

  • Greens

  • Social Democrats

  • Labour

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  • S-PBP

  • National Alliance ( National Party, Ireland First, Irish People & IND)

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Exactly, there are a still a few to be found falling asleep in front of the TV, everyone else is busy making plans, developing, working their jobs/careers, following orders/paying the bills, living far from the madding crowd and watching the circus unfold, emigrating away from the aul sod.

But sure, Irish people who are affected by the issues will wake up, jump up and so something when the going gets too tough, but so far it's a small percentage who are directly adversely affected compared to those who are coining it?
When things get too much, there'll be wakey wakey's:cool:
 

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Correct, at the moment, most are living large with a trip to Spain or even Florida once a year. Maybe be a trip to Highbury for the young lads birthday and a few smaller sessions. As long as they can post on facebook from a beach or a soccer stadium, they are content.

So I am looking forward to the going getting tough.
 

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John Waters does not say at all what you described Myles. The interviewer started talking about many candidates and vote splitting and Waters was quietly correcting him pointing out that the transferable vote should solve that, but that for various reasons, which he didn't go into, the transfers didn't materialise.

He also said he saw ballot boxes carted away in white vans without any Garda escort or anything like that at all, just one person in a van.
 
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Correct. Waters saw the interviewer veer down this foolish road and quickly cut him off at the pass. The nationalist vote transferred in a very large percentage but unfortunately usually went to the Aontu candidate. One constituency was an aberration to this which was Dublin North Central. we had 3 nationalists there.
 

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For various reasons, which he didn't go into, the transfers didn't materialise.
That's the point Sir, they don't materalise the way you and Dan say they do. Too many candidates just dilute the nationalist vote. Val said he's just found the same in his recent run.
 

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No, they transferred about 75%, but to Aontu usually
 

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It just dawned on me that the hard left party PBP are in serious trouble.

It seems people are turning away from them

In the 2016 election they returned 6 TDs.

In 2020 , 5 TDs

2024 , just 3 of them left.
 

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Collett aghast at Irish politics -


View: https://t.me/markacollett/15056

if you look at this there is a well dressed dignified lady with a handbag to the right of the photo .
this is Kathleen =Ireland politely averting her gaze from selfishness and stupidity .
Roderick wanted to shove it in our face even in the hours after his party was obliterated and lay in a thousand pieces across Ireland .
she knows that the greens were obliterated by being self absorbed zealots wrecking peoples lives for ideology they imposed on Ireland without any proper examination of the facts.
she averts her gaze from something she knows should be private and from something she knows will offend ,
and deliberate planned /premeditated causing of offense should not be part of any normal political parties strategy.
there are fleets of brand new electric buses costing 10s of millions parked near Ardee because the infrastructure and skills and training is not there to operate them .
but they were bought against the wishes/advice of the people asked to operate the bus service showing contempt for the staff who naturally then say to themselves if you want to be the transport professional without having served a minute of any apprenticeship we will let you at it and hang your self .
and a culture of madness then prevails --where management people laughingly ask each other each morning ""well what have the experts decided we do today"" as the imposed reality is so daft.
they look outside the door and the private bus industry passes by in vehicles which can be operated 24/7 with their heaters and aircon on and no gaps in the service to change vehicles 3 or 4 times during the day as the battery will only allow 1 quarter of what the private bus can do passing their door --therefore they need 4 YES FOUR electric vehicles to do what one private one can in the day and they have to maintain 4 and all the bullshit involved in making sure the bus got back to the depot before the battery went and staff to charge it as drivers are not permitted to do this .
you now have the bus service hours to do and on top of this you have the bus rescue hours to make sure the battery bus gets back and does not block Dublin by running out of power -- so you now have 2 bus routes one for passengers and another one to get the battery buses back and replaced with charged ones .
they look at the private bus industry who state they would be insolvent in a week if they were forced to operate""GREEN "" some of the contracts now stipulate electric buses and this naturally is causing mayhem as nobody will take them up .
Ireland has a sick amount of money to spend and this bullshit has remained hidden as FF/FG had to keep their mouth shut maybe now we will have change as Ireland has elected the dignified woman with the handbag who averted her gaze from the stupidity in her presence .
 

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Correct, at the moment, most are living large with a trip to Spain or even Florida once a year. Maybe be a trip to Highbury for the young lads birthday and a few smaller sessions. As long as they can post on facebook from a beach or a soccer stadium, they are content.

So I am looking forward to the going getting tough.
you usually make sense but not today -- if the going gets tough the visit to highbury is postponed but the waitress with one child is thrown to the wolves along with the pensioner who works part time beside the mother who works the other hours .
the child of a cunt will get less from the cunt --tough times are not tough times for the florida/spain/highbury class .
 

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Not only didn't the Monk mention Mass Immigration/covid but from the videos I've just watched of him, he can't even string a coherent sentence together.
If the Monk was in any way Genuine ~ ~ He would have stood aside and backed Malachy Steenson !

The Monk was a Saboteur ~ ~ Paying back the Establishment for keeping him out of jail and stopping the Kinahan Cartel from killing him ~ ~ You'd have to wonder if the Monk has been an informer down the years ~ ~ How else did he live such a charmed life ~ ~ This Election has shown him to, Not be that Smart ~ Certainly not able to come across as being smart anyway !

I hope the Dubs in that constituency make it Clear ~ ~ Don't try this again Monk !
 

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It just dawned on me that the hard left party PBP are in serious trouble.

It seems people are turning away from them

In the 2016 election they returned 6 TDs.

In 2020 , 5 TDs

2024 , just 3 of them left.
Communists need Communism to Survive !
 

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if you look at this there is a well dressed dignified lady with a handbag to the right of the photo .
this is Kathleen =Ireland politely averting her gaze from selfishness and stupidity .
Roderick wanted to shove it in our face even in the hours after his party was obliterated and lay in a thousand pieces across Ireland .
she knows that the greens were obliterated by being self absorbed zealots wrecking peoples lives for ideology they imposed on Ireland without any proper examination of the facts.
she averts her gaze from something she knows should be private and from something she knows will offend ,
and deliberate planned /premeditated causing of offense should not be part of any normal political parties strategy.
Ha, I too noticed the gaze averting

there are fleets of brand new electric buses costing 10s of millions parked near Ardee because the infrastructure and skills and training is not there to operate them .
but they were bought against the wishes/advice of the people asked to operate the bus service showing contempt for the staff who naturally then say to themselves if you want to be the transport professional without having served a minute of any apprenticeship we will let you at it and hang your self .
and a culture of madness then prevails --where management people laughingly ask each other each morning ""well what have the experts decided we do today"" as the imposed reality is so daft.
they look outside the door and the private bus industry passes by in vehicles which can be operated 24/7 with their heaters and aircon on and no gaps in the service to change vehicles 3 or 4 times during the day as the battery will only allow 1 quarter of what the private bus can do passing their door --therefore they need 4 YES FOUR electric vehicles to do what one private one can in the day and they have to maintain 4 and all the bullshit involved in making sure the bus got back to the depot before the battery went and staff to charge it as drivers are not permitted to do this .
you now have the bus service hours to do and on top of this you have the bus rescue hours to make sure the battery bus gets back and does not block Dublin by running out of power -- so you now have 2 bus routes one for passengers and another one to get the battery buses back and replaced with charged ones .
they look at the private bus industry who state they would be insolvent in a week if they were forced to operate""GREEN "" some of the contracts now stipulate electric buses and this naturally is causing mayhem as nobody will take them up .
Ireland has a sick amount of money to spend and this bullshit has remained hidden as FF/FG had to keep their mouth shut maybe now we will have change as Ireland has elected the dignified woman with the handbag who averted her gaze from the stupidity in her presence .
I think O'Gorman is one of those who really means it, meaning that he's genuinely ideologically a far leftist and not just a career politician

The fact that the establishment have had a gay as Minister for Children for how many years now is sinister enough in itself
 

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The powers that be behind the scenes in Fine Gael have done OK / Well out of this ~

Fine Gael needed a reset with all the new TD's and after being in Government for 14 years ~ ~ Now, Fine Gael will in a way be able to distance themselves ( to some degree anyway ) from has gone on in the lat 14 years.

It won't be that hard to get rid of Simon Harris if they want to somewhere along the way.

Clever Political Parties know that they have to try to get away from 14 years in government ~ ~ Fianna Fáil will now be the Big Dog ( bigger dog anyway )

And Fine Gael have Not have to had a Complete Disaster Election to move on !
 

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Not only didn't the Monk mention Mass Immigration/covid but from the videos I've just watched of him, he can't even string a coherent sentence together.
He did say something along the lines of "if you're coming bring your toolbox" but who knows
 

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He did say something along the lines of "if you're coming bring your toolbox" but who knows
He was on-board with Mass Immigration ~ ~ I assume the Monk is a Land-Lord of Multiple Properties ~ ~ Another, Mass Immigration Hustler / Grifter ! !
 

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Not only didn't the Monk mention Mass Immigration/covid but from the videos I've just watched of him, he can't even string a coherent sentence together.
Would have been funny to have him stand making a speech in Dail Eireann though.😂 😂 😂
 

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I remarked on that to my missus last Friday after voting that there was a serious amount of old fuckers out voting.
They're easily bought with some crumbs from the table in a pension rise.
They should be, Proper Irish Nationalists / Irish Republicans ~ ~ Listening to Rte has fucked with their Brains !
 

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A lot of Irish people over 55 with poor literacy skills, vote for FFFG because their local FFFG man/woman helps them with stuff like filling in Dole forms and free medical card glasses claims, apparently the reason Egghead Donnolly lost his seat was because he wouldn't help people with such stuff. It's great to see him losing his seat regardless.
 

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A lot of Irish people over 55 with poor literacy skills, vote for FFFG because their local FFFG man/woman helps them with stuff like filling in Dole forms and free medical card glasses claims, apparently the reason Egghead Donnolly lost his seat was because he wouldn't help people with such stuff. It's great to see him losing his seat regardless.
All politics is local.
He's not the only one who didn't want to know that.
 

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A lot of Irish people over 55 with poor literacy skills, vote for FFFG because their local FFFG man/woman helps them with stuff like filling in Dole forms and free medical card glasses claims, apparently the reason Egghead Donnolly lost his seat was because he wouldn't help people with such stuff. It's great to see him losing his seat regardless.

Lets face it- Irish people in general, and not just those over 55 with poor literacy skills, are not very ideologically politically minded.
 

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Val has a lot of devotees. Eg one comment under his last video:

I believe that Val is a modern-day prophet, similar in all respects to the prophets in biblical times, sent to alert us to the egregious levels of corruption, greed, homelessness, and so forth so rampant and now normalised in our country.
 

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The recent Irish general election has highlighted a significant shift in public opinion: for many Irish citizens, immigration is not seen as a problem. In fact, it seems that a majority not only accept but actively welcome the cultural changes brought by a rapidly diversifying population. There’s even an acknowledgment that native Irish people may one day become a minority in their own homeland—a reality that appears to be embraced by a large portion of the population.

While I personally do not support these changes, I am resigned to the fact that they are happening and that there is little I—or anyone else who feels similarly—can do to alter the trajectory. The demographic and cultural shifts are being celebrated by many as signs of progress and inclusion, but for those of us who value the preservation of Ireland’s traditional identity and heritage, it feels like a loss that is difficult to reconcile.

Still, it’s clear that the tide of opinion is moving in one direction. Whether through elections, policy decisions, or societal attitudes, Ireland is evolving into a multicultural society at an unprecedented pace. While I struggle to embrace this transformation, I recognize that my perspective is not shared by the majority, and this reality shapes the Ireland of the future.

As these changes unfold, it’s essential to ensure that discussions around immigration and cultural identity remain open and respectful, allowing all voices to be heard—even those who feel uneasy about what lies ahead.
 

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Lets face it- Irish people in general, and not just those over 55 with poor literacy skills, are not very ideologically politically minded.
Other than the British Ireland has not really been put in a position where a raft of ideologies need to considered. It was very much a one trick pony and has left us bereft of the power to question or examine competing political ideas other through the lens of self determination, now surrendered to Europe.
 

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The recent Irish general election has highlighted a significant shift in public opinion: for many Irish citizens, immigration is not seen as a problem. In fact, it seems that a majority not only accept but actively welcome the cultural changes brought by a rapidly diversifying population. There’s even an acknowledgment that native Irish people may one day become a minority in their own homeland—a reality that appears to be embraced by a large portion of the population.

While I personally do not support these changes, I am resigned to the fact that they are happening and that there is little I—or anyone else who feels similarly—can do to alter the trajectory. The demographic and cultural shifts are being celebrated by many as signs of progress and inclusion, but for those of us who value the preservation of Ireland’s traditional identity and heritage, it feels like a loss that is difficult to reconcile.

Still, it’s clear that the tide of opinion is moving in one direction. Whether through elections, policy decisions, or societal attitudes, Ireland is evolving into a multicultural society at an unprecedented pace. While I struggle to embrace this transformation, I recognize that my perspective is not shared by the majority, and this reality shapes the Ireland of the future.

As these changes unfold, it’s essential to ensure that discussions around immigration and cultural identity remain open and respectful, allowing all voices to be heard—even those who feel uneasy about what lies ahead.
Indeed, I think that is the case, but one ray of hope is that that the Greens got their arse thoroughly kicked, signalling a waning of enthusiasm for all the crap they have tried to impose.
 

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Indeed, I think that is the case, but one ray of hope is that that the Greens got their arse thoroughly kicked, signalling a waning of enthusiasm for all the crap they have tried to impose.
I think disgruntled green voters moved across to Labour and the Social Democrats, however just like when the crash happened their idiotic supporters eventually came back to them. So even if not in this election I can see the Greens making a so-called comeback in 5 years. Because they were in government a lot of their ex TDs will be filling up the panel of current affairs shows spouting their bullshit and brainwashing the gullible.

I wouldn't even be shocked to find that Roddy keeps his government seat as FFG may consider him a useful tool and keep him in the cabinet as 1 independent type TD.
 

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The recent Irish general election has highlighted a significant shift in public opinion: for many Irish citizens, immigration is not seen as a problem. In fact, it seems that a majority not only accept but actively welcome the cultural changes brought by a rapidly diversifying population. There’s even an acknowledgment that native Irish people may one day become a minority in their own homeland—a reality that appears to be embraced by a large portion of the population.

While I personally do not support these changes, I am resigned to the fact that they are happening and that there is little I—or anyone else who feels similarly—can do to alter the trajectory. The demographic and cultural shifts are being celebrated by many as signs of progress and inclusion, but for those of us who value the preservation of Ireland’s traditional identity and heritage, it feels like a loss that is difficult to reconcile.

Still, it’s clear that the tide of opinion is moving in one direction. Whether through elections, policy decisions, or societal attitudes, Ireland is evolving into a multicultural society at an unprecedented pace. While I struggle to embrace this transformation, I recognize that my perspective is not shared by the majority, and this reality shapes the Ireland of the future.

As these changes unfold, it’s essential to ensure that discussions around immigration and cultural identity remain open and respectful, allowing all voices to be heard—even those who feel uneasy about what lies ahead.
Or!
A majority of complacent comfortable easily led dupes?
No longer capable of looking at longer perspectives than the next gratification

Or for another significant minority in many cases paying the next bill

A couple of reasons.
 

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I think disgruntled green voters moved across to Labour and the Social Democrats, however just like when the crash happened their idiotic supporters eventually came back to them. So even if not in this election I can see the Greens making a so-called comeback in 5 years. Because they were in government a lot of their ex TDs will be filling up the panel of current affairs shows spouting their bullshit and brainwashing the gullible.

I wouldn't even be shocked to find that Roddy keeps his government seat as FFG may consider him a useful tool and keep him in the cabinet as 1 independent type TD.
"Because they were in government a lot of their ex TDs will be filling up the panel of current affairs shows spouting their unchallenged bullshit and browbeating the gullible public."

Just added another point to your very good observation.
 

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"Because they were in government a lot of their ex TDs will be filling up the panel of current affairs shows spouting their unchallenged bullshit and browbeating the gullible public."

Just added another point to your very good observation.
The TDs who didn't get re-elected will get appointed to the next Seanad (in January 2025) or they'll get some public sector quango/board position.
 

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The TDs who didn't get re-elected will get appointed to the next Seanad (in January 2025) or they'll get some public sector quango/board position.
And/or they'll have the insider track on which new NGO for themselves to initiate 🤦‍♂️

ETA: Oh, you've already said so.
Cheers
 

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They will want to virtue signal so Clipboard will be in the coalition and front and center. In the absense of an african or muslim, he will have to do.
 

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