HBO is airing pedophilia

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Fishalt said:
Horrific.

What the fuck is this thing named BTW?
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There is a statue to Oscar Wilde in a park in Dublin- I really love the park but the statue should go.

Andre Gide the French novelist wrote a memoir about some of his time with Willde got him into child sexual abuse called "The Immoralist"- the scumbag was thankful for the other scumbag for doing so.

Even after David Norris came out with his pro-paedo stuff 10 per cent of the 26 county electorate voted for him.

Though a large proportion of decent people in England and Wales believes in the death penalty for paedo stuff the courts give paedos very light prison terms very often.
 
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Jerry said:
Anderson, its a movie about sexual abuse.

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The Tale - Wikipedia

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The Tale movie review & film summary (2018) | Roger Ebert

The film is one long interrogation, not only from Jennifer the character's standpoint, but from a directorial standpoint.
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So you approve of that scene?

Do you welcome scenes that show men having sex with Children?

Regardless however they didn't have to show that, in my view, it's about trying to embed into people's minds that its normal behaviour. I do not expect any TV studio to show a scene where a Male Adult talks about stretching a child for sex.
 
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This was shown on TV?????


This is just porn and I ask if the actress was 18 even.
 
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Anderson said:
in my view, it's about trying to embed into people's minds that its normal behaviour
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The entire movie is based on it NOT being normal behaviour. It's absolutely the opposite of what you say.

I don't welcome "welcome" scenes that show men having sex with children any more than I welcome scenes showing murder and torture. However, for the purpose of the story, I accept that such things need to be somewhat depicted, in part, to convey the horror and impact involved to the audience.

In this case, considering the true story behind this movie, you are completely shooting yourself in the foot if this is the line you are taking. Talk about missing the whole fucking point.
 
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Jerry said:
The entire movie is based on it NOT being normal behaviour. It's absolutely the opposite of what you say.

I don't welcome "welcome" scenes that show men having sex with children than I welcome scenes showing murder and torture. However, for the purpose of the story, I accept that such things need to be somewhat depicted, in part, to convey the horror and impact involved to the audience.

In this case, considering the true story behind this movie, you are completely shooting yourself in the foot if this is the line you are taking. Talk about missing the whole fucking point.
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There is no call for soft lighting and romantic settings to 'explain' child abuse. It's kiddie porn, pure and simple.
 
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Anderson said:
Exactly, we don't need to see it to consider it wrong and disgusting, only sick twisted perverts want to see child porn in any form.
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Anderson. The scene is based on the following. "...she details her "relationship" with the 40-year-old Bill, whom she considers her first love. Jennifer's elderly mother is horrified by what she has read. She had no idea her daughter was raped by her running coach. But that's not how Jennifer remembers it. She remembers it as something beautiful......As 13-year-old Jenny gets sucked into the charismatic personalities of Mrs. G and Bill, we the audience can see that they are predators in the process of grooming her. "The Tale" is an unblinking portrait of how grooming works. The tiny boundary-breaches. The testing of the waters. The subtle wedge Mrs. G and Bill put between Jenny and her parents ("Your parents are afraid of becoming free," Bill tells the child). The creation of a conspiratorial "let's tell each other secrets" atmosphere. It's chilling. A body double was used for the sexual scenes (and it's obvious it's a body double, a good choice: it distances us enough so we don't worry about the child actress)."

This is clearly very open and honest filmmaking by the woman who suffered the abuse.

Unless you are suggesting the director wants "to see child porn in any form" even her own abuse?

Get fucking real.
 
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Jerry said:
Anderson. The scene is based on the following. "...she details her "relationship" with the 40-year-old Bill, whom she considers her first love. Jennifer's elderly mother is horrified by what she has read. She had no idea her daughter was raped by her running coach. But that's not how Jennifer remembers it. She remembers it as something beautiful......As 13-year-old Jenny gets sucked into the charismatic personalities of Mrs. G and Bill, we the audience can see that they are predators in the process of grooming her. "The Tale" is an unblinking portrait of how grooming works. The tiny boundary-breaches. The testing of the waters. The subtle wedge Mrs. G and Bill put between Jenny and her parents ("Your parents are afraid of becoming free," Bill tells the child). The creation of a conspiratorial "let's tell each other secrets" atmosphere. It's chilling. A body double was used for the sexual scenes (and it's obvious it's a body double, a good choice: it distances us enough so we don't worry about the child actress)."

This is clearly very open and honest filmmaking by the woman who suffered the abuse.

Unless you are suggesting the director wants "to see child porn in any form" even her own abuse?

Get fucking real.
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I don't care what the movie is about, is shows child porn and that is never right.

I don't need to see women raped to understand rape is wrong,
I don't need to see someone graphically murdered to know murder is wrong.
I certainly don't need to see a child being raped by an adult to know it is wrong.

You however seem to think ;

"This is clearly very open and honest filmmaking by the woman who suffered the abuse."

There is absolutely no fucking need to see a man seduce a child in the manner they have. How the fuck does it help the movie to have an adult tell a child that he needs to stretch them to fuck them? Who the fuck needs to hear or see this? Pedos thats who.
 
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Anderson said:
I don't care what the movie is about, is shows child porn and that is never right.
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The movie is about how these events are remembered and recalled. Is it disturbing? It's meant to be. It's meant to show how grooming impacts how the abuse is accepted and later how the memories of those events are warped.

This subject is obviously too grownup for you.
 
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I don't need to see women raped to understand rape is wrong,
I don't need to see someone graphically murdered to know murder is wrong.
I certainly don't need to see a child being raped by an adult to know it is wrong.
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Anderson, what about reading about it?

If someone is abused as a child and later grows up and details that abuse in a memoir, should the book be banned?
 
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Anderson said:
I don't care what the movie is about, is shows child porn and that is never right.

I don't need to see women raped to understand rape is wrong,
I don't need to see someone graphically murdered to know murder is wrong.
I certainly don't need to see a child being raped by an adult to know it is wrong.

You however seem to think ;

"This is clearly very open and honest filmmaking by the woman who suffered the abuse."

There is absolutely no fucking need to see a man seduce a child in the manner they have. How the fuck does it help the movie to have an adult tell a child that he needs to stretch them to fuck them? Who the fuck needs to hear or see this? Pedos thats who.
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Well said.

You can be guaranteed that whatever the establishment view on Covid, Ukraine or immigration is, this buck eejit will turn up to defend it to ridiculous levels at all times of the day and night, as is his right. His attempt to explain this away as some form of educational endeavour is another matter altogether and yes, it's indicative of a degenerate. Grown-ups are fully aware that we don't need lines such as the one you quoted to know men having sex with children is wrong.
 
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Jerry said:
Everyone knows that. Its made clear in the movie.

That's not the main point of the movie.

You must be a pile of eejits or just trolling at this point. I hope the latter cos your responses come across as dangerously stupid.
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Your wilful ignorance of everything, including the arts and the creation of media content, is once again highlighted by your utterances here.

Showing a child being seduced by an adult with explanations as to how he is going to set about it in a soft focus, low lit environment, is highly indicative of the filmmakers intention to encourage a positive view of such acts.

Whether it represents the idea of a teenagers first love is immaterial, the adult is taking advantage of a child's body to satisfy his own desires, not those of the juvenile.
 
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Jerry said:
collider.com

Jennifer Fox on HBO's The Tale and Her Own True-Life Story

'The Tale' writer/director Jennifer Fox on telling her personal story, writing the script, the casting process, and hoping that this film opens a dialogue about the truth of sexual abuse.
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"When we were preparing to take the film out, before it came out at Sundance, we did a lot of test screenings with psychologists and older student groups, and we did a lot of testing with lawyers who work in the field of advocacy and who try cases of sexual abuse, and we got amazing comments. Even for them, this is the first time they had seen portrayed what they see in the field. They simply had never seen a film that showed what they saw with children or adult survivors. So, in a sense, we’re really hoping that this opens a huge dialogue about the truth of sexual abuse."
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There's absolutely no need for a scene such as the one originally posted i.e.a man in bed with a child, to be included in a series or film to achieve any of that. "Amazing comments". Only a moron would use that turn of phrase in the context of child sexual abuse and is indicative of the clowns involved in this.
 
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