Jambo’s Jargon

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A dedicated thread for discussion of “Jambo’s Jargon”, jargon like “race realism” etc.
 
Cad e do chulra cine? What's your own ethnic background, if you don't mind me asking?

Do you have any objection to Myles being reinstated?
 
Great to see the three amigos....well, two really....back together shitposting and derailing every thread they're allowed on.:)
 
Irish as they come back as many generations as anyone on this island. Of course I don’t object. I hope he wasn’t banned on my behalf. He was probably going on about that chap fingered in Aldo’s great “sting” the twat.
 
Roc. said:
A dedicated thread for discussion of “Jambo’s Jargon”, jargon like “race realism” etc.
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Race realism refers to the fact that race is real. Race is a social construct is also, of course, "jargon".

You are an idiot.
 
Diarmuid said:
Cad e do chulra cine? What's your own ethnic background, if you don't mind me asking?

Do you have any objection to Myles being reinstated?
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Was wht Myles banned this time, s'il vous plait?
 
Roc. said:
Irish as they come back as many generations as anyone on this island.
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Gael Irish, Viking Irish or Norman Irish? No offence meant, and none taken I'm sure.
I take it you don't speak the Gaelic and have contempt for it?

What did your family do in WWII? My instinct tells me they collaborated with the Brits and the Soviets, but please correct me if I am wrong.
 
Diarmuid said:
Gael Irish, Viking Irish or Norman Irish? No offence meant, and none taken I'm sure.
I take it you don't speak the Gaelic and have contempt for it?

What did your family do in WWII? My instinct tells me they collaborated with the Brits and the Soviets, but please correct me if I am wrong.
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Diarmuid, the UK and USSR were on the same side in WW2.
Just a little historical trivia for ya.
 
Another 'shitposting for wankers' thread for the ignore list.
The stench of Pervert off it.:sick:
 
Diarmuid said:
Gael Irish, Viking Irish or Norman Irish? No offence meant, and none taken I'm sure.
I take it you don't speak the Gaelic and have contempt for it? What did your family do in WWII? My instinct tells me they collaborated with the Brits and the Soviets, but please correct me if I am wrong.
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a. Irish Gael. “Atlantean” as I sense and might identify with. Ancestry in Connemara and Wexford.

b. No, don’t speak it unfortunately. Took honours Irish in leaving. Last few years have been reading hiberno-Irish studies and studying old Irish grammar because I am interested in how my ancestors thought. I’d like to be able to think in the same way as them. I loathe the “cupla focail” and the standardisation and anglicisation of the language to make it conform with Anglo American European thought patterns.

c. True, I had relatives on my father’s side fought for the Brits in WW2. It was economic necessity as I understand. Though much later on I had two dear relatives who were on an IRA hitlist for many years. They contributed significantly to the end of that organisation’s terror campaign as I understand. I am very proud of them as what that organisation became in the post ‘69 years was a disgrace to the country. As are that organisation’s present day remnants.
 
The Equalizer said:
Race realism refers to the fact that race is real.
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That may be a fact. But the question is how significant of a fact put next to other competing facts.

That’s why Dawkins dwells on the magnitude of intra race versus inter race gene differences, to try and place the fact in its rightful place.

Which is a quite different place to the sense your jargon aims to communicate.
 
Why are you so keen to import more foreigners?
 
Diarmuid said:
Why are you so keen to import more foreigners?
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I'm not. I speak out against what is going on.
However I hate racism and ignorance.
See the difference.
No. But you're another gobshite.
 
clarke-connolly said:
I betcha that Richard Dawkins wouldn't walk around London ( in the areas known for robbing wealthy people of watches etc etc etc )

Let Richard Dawkins prove that he is an African by doing that ! ! ! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
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He's simply talking in evolutionary terms, the idea of a common ancestor..

He's probably too much of a libtard to realise that the 'Out of Africa' theory is rather politicised (by anti-Whites) but push him and he'll tell you that race is real, and the idea of a social construct is "nonsense" (I've posted a video of him saying this)
 
You're an idiot, Jambo.

No one is disputing the fact that there are DNA differences between races (that your jargon translates as "race is real" or "race realism" etc.).

But there are an additional two facts here to take account of.

First the fact of intra-racial DNA difference.

Second the fact of the much greater magnitude of these intra-racial differences as compared to the inter-racial differences.

And don't try to divert acknowledgement of those key additional facts by trying to drag things down your "social construct" rabbit hole.

I and most people would generally agree that the claim that race is a "social construct" is not a fact per se.

(Rather what it is is a Socratic type of social agreement about meaning - basically agreed on as a counter the attempt of your movement to rebrand discredited biological racism - who as we see use pseudo-scientific jargon to obscure the ideological nature of your beliefs. But I divert.).

So put that aside. No one here is claiming race as "a social construct" as fact or argument. As per my aside above, it is a social phenomenon. Perhaps warranting a separate discussion down the line. But let's stick to the scientific like facts here.

Now answer the question straightforwardly. Do you acknowledge and accept the additional two facts I pointed out?
 
The Equalizer said:
He's simply talking in evolutionary terms, the idea of a common ancestor..
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Says you.

He illustrated evolutionary distance to those ancestors. He did that specifically to make his point about how incredibly uniform we are as a species.

He talked about two distinct "Out of Africa" migrations. The first, Homo Erectus, a little over 1.5 million years ago, who left Africa and colonized Asia, Europe, and definitely Indonesia as well. (Now extinct).

The second migration Dawkins said was extremely recent, less than 100,000 years ago. (Reminiscent of what seems to be showing up in the Trinity research data of Dan Bradley and Bob Quinn's investigations in his documentaries that I sometimes post up for interest.)

He then talked of human genetic uniformity saying if you look molecularly at the molecules of modern human races, we are astonishingly uniform.

He pointed out that such genetic variation as there is exists mostly within Africa.

He said this suggests that the deepest divides of cousinship in our species are within Africa itself. While the whole of the rest of the world is "a very, very recent branch-off of the human species."

He said if you look at the amount of genetic variation in the human species, it's extremely low. He said if you take two chimpanzees from the same forest in Africa, they are likely to be more different from each other genetically than any two humans in the world.

He finished by noting how surprising this may be to people less inclined to abstract thinking like yourself when you consider that races look so different to our eyes.

But he emphasised that the genetics is very clear - that we are an astonishingly uniform species, that we are all one species, one very uniform species, and we originated very recently in Africa.

And that is exactly what he said. And he wore the t shirt to emphasise his words.

Also noting Dawkins goes further in acknowledging these tiny inter racial differences than most of his scientific peers who say they are too small and scattered across "racial groups" to be significant - who emphasise that "... no group of people is, or ever has been, biologically homogeneous or “pure.” Furthermore, human populations are not — and never have been — biologically discrete, truly isolated, or fixed. Genetic and phenotypic variants are not distributed across our species in a manner that maps clearly onto socially-recognized racial groups. This is true even for aspects of human variation that we frequently emphasise in discussions of race, such as facial features, skin color and hair type..."
 
Roc. said:
You're an idiot, Jambo.

No one is disputing the fact that there are DNA differences between races (that your jargon translates as "race is real" or "race realism" etc.).

But there are an additional two facts here to take account of.

First the fact of intra-racial DNA difference.

Second the fact of the much greater magnitude of these intra-racial differences as compared to the inter-racial differences.

And don't try to divert acknowledgement of those key additional facts by trying to drag things down your "social construct" rabbit hole.

I and most people would generally agree that the claim that race is a "social construct" is not a fact per se.

(Rather what it is is a Socratic type of social agreement about meaning - basically agreed on as a counter the attempt of your movement to rebrand discredited biological racism - who as we see use pseudo-scientific jargon to obscure the ideological nature of your beliefs. But I divert.).

So put that aside. No one here is claiming race as "a social construct" as fact or argument. As per my aside above, it is a social phenomenon. Perhaps warranting a separate discussion down the line. But let's stick to the scientific like facts here.
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Roc. said:
Now answer the question straightforwardly. Do you acknowledge and accept the additional two facts I pointed out?
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I acknowledge and accept that you're a bullshit artist.

If you want me be able to answer your question, please define these two terms (that you used) -

1. Fact per se
2. Biological racism
 
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Roc. said:
Says you.

He illustrated evolutionary distance to those ancestors. He did that specifically to make his point about how incredibly uniform we are as a species.

He talked about two distinct "Out of Africa" migrations. The first, Homo Erectus, a little over 1.5 million years ago, who left Africa and colonized Asia, Europe, and definitely Indonesia as well. (Now extinct).

The second migration Dawkins said was extremely recent, less than 100,000 years ago. (Reminiscent of what seems to be showing up in the Trinity research data of Dan Bradley and Bob Quinn's investigations in his documentaries that I sometimes post up for interest.)

He then talked of human genetic uniformity saying if you look molecularly at the molecules of modern human races, we are astonishingly uniform.

He pointed out that such genetic variation as there is exists mostly within Africa.

He said this suggests that the deepest divides of cousinship in our species are within Africa itself. While the whole of the rest of the world is "a very, very recent branch-off of the human species."

He said if you look at the amount of genetic variation in the human species, it's extremely low. He said if you take two chimpanzees from the same forest in Africa, they are likely to be more different from each other genetically than any two humans in the world.

He finished by noting how surprising this may be to people less inclined to abstract thinking like yourself when you consider that races look so different to our eyes.

But he emphasised that the genetics is very clear - that we are an astonishingly uniform species, that we are all one species, one very uniform species, and we originated very recently in Africa.

And that is exactly what he said. And he wore the t shirt to emphasise his words.

Also noting Dawkins goes further in acknowledging these tiny inter racial differences than most of his scientific peers who say they are too small and scattered across "racial groups" to be significant - who emphasise that "... no group of people is, or ever has been, biologically homogeneous or “pure.” Furthermore, human populations are not — and never have been — biologically discrete, truly isolated, or fixed. Genetic and phenotypic variants are not distributed across our species in a manner that maps clearly onto socially-recognized racial groups. This is true even for aspects of human variation that we frequently emphasise in discussions of race, such as facial features, skin color and hair type..."
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Who denies that we are one species, I certainly don't.

But that gets twisted into a (anti-white) slogan like - "There is only one race, the human race."

That's nonsense. Human races are subspecies.
 
The Equalizer said:
Who denies that we are one species, I certainly don't.

But that gets twisted into a (anti-white) slogan like - "There is only one race, the human race."

That's nonsense. Human races are subspecies.
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This is your social construct, ironically.

From a biological point of view, humans never experienced genetic isolation or had significant lineage differences required to form distinct subspecies.

Please dont attempt to argue this further. I know you cant actually make a scientific case for it.
 
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Roc. said:
I'm not. I speak out against what is going on.
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You speak out against the mass immigration??? Really? Where? When?

If that is true, congratulations.

Disappointing that you would use vulgarity and insults against me. It reflects badly on the family that raised you.

Mohammed Ali was in favour of racial segregation. Are you?

Do you know any honest Nigerians, Pakistanis, Ukes or Jews in Ireland? I accept there are honest people from these backgrounds elsewhere, I just haven't encountered any honest ones here.
 
Roc. said:
Now answer the question straightforwardly. Do you acknowledge and accept the additional two facts I pointed out?
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The Equalizer said:
If you want me be able to answer your question, please define these two terms (that you used) -
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Same old bullshit distraction tactics.

From your “bugs script” (http://mantra.awardspace.us/):

Rule 3 - Use our terminology (Jargon)
"Anti-White", "Pro-White", "White genocide", "Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White", "Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White countries for everybody".

Rule 14 - YOU ask the questions

Etc.

The Equalizer said:
Human races are subspecies.
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FFS.

You were the one that flaunted Dawkins as alleged "corroboration" of your jargon.

Listen to his talk again - with your brain plugged in this time.

For instance why does he keep emphasising how much of a "uniform" species we are?

Why does he draw for us such pictures as:

"... if you take two chimpanzees from the same forest in Africa, they are likely to be more different from each other genetically than any two humans in the whole world..."

And he adds:

"... As surprising as this may be to people who consider that races look so different to our eyes...."

Again - two chimps who look exactly the same, are more different on a genetic level than any two humans you could pick out in the whole world who look wildly different to our eyes.

Wash your butt Jambo.

Idiot.
 
Roc. said:
Same old bullshit distraction tactics.

From your “bugs script” (http://mantra.awardspace.us/):

Rule 3 - Use our terminology (Jargon)
"Anti-White", "Pro-White", "White genocide", "Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White", "Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White countries for everybody".

Rule 14 - YOU ask the questions

Etc.
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Roc. said:
FFS.


You were the one that flaunted Dawkins as alleged "corroboration" of your jargon.

Listen to his talk again - with your brain plugged in this time.

For instance why does he keep emphasising how much of a "uniform" species we are?

Why does he draw for us such pictures as:

"... if you take two chimpanzees from the same forest in Africa, they are likely to be more different from each other genetically than any two humans in the whole world..."

And he adds:

"... As surprising as this may be to people who consider that races look so different to our eyes...."

Again - two chimps who look exactly the same, are more different on a genetic level than any two humans you could pick out in the whole world who look wildly different to our eyes.

Wash your butt Jambo.

Idiot.
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You're cherry-picking.

Dawkins says that race is real because there are genetic differences between the races. He also says that the idea of race being a social construct is - nonsense, not "isn't a fact per se".

Secondly, the differences between the races, whatever those might be, cannot be construed as "biological racism".

In short, you need to remove the anti-white, anti-scientific, social science bullshine from your argument.
 
The Equalizer said:
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You're cherry-picking.

Dawkins says that race is real because there are genetic differences between the races. He also says that the idea of race being a social construct is - nonsense, not "isn't a fact per se".

Secondly, the differences between the races, whatever those might be, cannot be construed as "biological racism".

In short, you need to remove the anti-white, anti-scientific, social science bullshine from your argument.
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Dawkins doesnt say that.

He does say geographical isolation has led to genetic differences between populations (such as skin colour), but these variations are continuous and do not fall into neat categories.

Which is obvious when you look at the range across African tribes and peoples, people in the 'Stans, and even across "White People", just as examples.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d6SQ3mXzZeI
 
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Haven said:
Dawkins doesnt say that.

He does say geographical isolation has led to genetic differences between populations (such as skin colour), but these variations are continuous and do not fall into neat categories.

Which is obvious when you look at the range across African tribes and peoples, people in the 'Stans, and even across "White People", just as examples.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d6SQ3mXzZeI
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lol He says everything I said he said in that video (you're worse than roc)
 
Does @Haven have corn cobs in his ears or something, perhaps he could turn the captions on..

This is shortly after Dawkins starts speaking (the first two minutes is shiteing on about the Nazis, eugenics etc.) -

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Or maybe you could turn your tiny fucking brain on?

Dawkins said:
"... I quite agree with you. I think the fact that such appalling things were done by the Nazis, and by the eugenic sterilization movements in the United States in the early part of the 20th century, does not nullify the validity of the concept of race. It's obvious there are geographically separated groups of humans who have different genetic clusters in common..."
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We already accepted that the concept of race was a fact and was valid in the thread above.

But what we tried to move you onto was the significance of that fact when set beside two directly related facts.

In regard to these two additional facts, Dawkins in this second video of yours goes directly on to say:

Dawkins said:
Now, what is true is that the variance between humans of different races is much less than the variance within races. In other words, one way it's been put is that if you wiped out all of humanity except one subpopulation, most of the variation would be preserved. Most of the available human variation is present in all different races.
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Finally, we also fucking agreed already that the idea of race being a social construct was not based in scientific fact. - We acknowledged it was something that most genetic scientists had agreed upon, in communicating their science, as they well anticipated the difficulties in explaining the nuances of the science (like the above additional facts you refuse to acknowledge) to Neanderthal fucking morons like you. They understood there should be proper effort mitigate against, as the interviewer in your video put it to Dawkins in the opening:

Interviewer said:
... it's a "third rail" because, in the 20th century, the Nazis committed a genocide based on this belief, and many governments—including the U.S. government—instituted eugenics policies. My own great-grandmother was sterilized in Puerto Rico as a result of one of these policies in the eugenics era..."
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In this regard Dawkins is lambasted by other genetic scientists above all for his naivety. He was fucking warned that morons like you would be constitutionally unable to understand anything that went beyond the confirmation of your prejudices.

Exhibit A m'lud, I present to you the complete and utter fuck up Jambo.
 
Roc. said:
Or maybe you could turn your tiny fucking brain on?



We already accepted that the concept of race was a fact and was valid in the thread above.

But what we tried to move you onto was the significance of that fact when set beside two directly related facts.

In regard to these two additional facts, Dawkins in this second video of yours goes directly on to say:



Finally, we also fucking agreed already that the idea of race being a social construct was not based in scientific fact. - We acknowledged it was something that most genetic scientists had agreed upon, in communicating their science, as they well anticipated the difficulties in explaining the nuances of the science (like the above additional facts you refuse to acknowledge) to Neanderthal fucking morons like you. They understood there should be proper effort mitigate against, as the interviewer in your video put it to Dawkins in the opening:



In this regard Dawkins is lambasted by other genetic scientists above all for his naivety. He was fucking warned that morons like you would be constitutionally unable to understand anything that went beyond the confirmation of your prejudices.

Exhibit A m'lud, I present to you the complete and utter fuck up Jambo.
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I've told you before that I'm aware of what you consider to be the greatest weapon in your arsenal and have been for a long time* i.e. that most of the genetic variation of the human species is contained within any one race/subspecies. *I first encountered that argument (from a race denier) many years ago.

Secondly, I don't think that you're consciously aware of the amount of rot there's been on this subject over the decades. I doubt that you could get an AI to give truthful answers nowadays (and people like the boy @Haven are a totally lost cause).

Thankfully, it doesn't seem that Dawkins has imbibed it all (similarly with the tranny stuff) and you know what, when some "scientist" is using the jargon of "social construct" to say that's what race is, do you know what type of scientist they tend to be? That's right, a social scientist.

Q. What do you call a hundred social scientists at the bottom of the ocean?

A. A good start.
 
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