Meat Is Crucial To The Human Diet

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Important roles of dietary taurine, creatine, carnosine, anserine and 4-hydroxyproline in human nutrition and health​


Conclusion: Dietary taurine, creatine, carnosine, anserine, and 4-hydroxyproline (which are all abundant in beef) play an important role in inhibiting oxidative stress (a common trigger of chronic diseases) and inflammation, ameliorating tissue (e.g., brain, heart, skeletal muscle, kidney, liver, and gut) injury, and improving metabolic profiles in animals and humans

 

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I cut down on meat a number of years ago. At the time I was in the grip of what would now probably be labelled an "eating disorder". I was working all hours to the detriment of my general wellbeing: takeaways every second night, gorging on rubbish 24/7. I stopped playing football, which had kept me fit and healthy for years. I went from 12 stone to almost 18, which is unbelievable to me now looking back.

One day I made a conscious decision to make some lifestyle changes. I started walking to work, stopped ordering takeaways; started eating lots of fruit and vegetables and cut out fizzy drinks and chocolate.

Making these relatively small changes had a huge impact on my life and general wellbeing. I very quickly shed the weight I had gained and felt much more clear minded and focused.

I haven't looked back since.

I understand that the doctors are advised to recommend exercise as the first step in dealing with patients suffering from depression. I wonder to what extent common ailments could be treated much more effectively through simple lifestyle changes as opposed to the current fashion of "treatment" consisting of prescribing a slew of pills.
Interesting. It's different for everyone. Going on a low carb, high saturated fat, med protein and a shedload of green veg and nuts did it for me. I remember meeting one of the local barbers while I was walking up the road once. He had been listening to some Irish doctor being interviewed on some radio show. This doc had said walking is the cure for everything. I knew this lad was very troubled after the death of his dad. Ran into him a few weeks later, totally different guy.
 

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I cut down on meat a number of years ago. At the time I was in the grip of what would now probably be labelled an "eating disorder". I was working all hours to the detriment of my general wellbeing: takeaways every second night, gorging on rubbish 24/7. I stopped playing football, which had kept me fit and healthy for years. I went from 12 stone to almost 18, which is unbelievable to me now looking back.

One day I made a conscious decision to make some lifestyle changes. I started walking to work, stopped ordering takeaways; started eating lots of fruit and vegetables and cut out fizzy drinks and chocolate.

Making these relatively small changes had a huge impact on my life and general wellbeing. I very quickly shed the weight I had gained and felt much more clear minded and focused.

I haven't looked back since.

I understand that the doctors are advised to recommend exercise as the first step in dealing with patients suffering from depression. I wonder to what extent common ailments could be treated much more effectively through simple lifestyle changes as opposed to the current fashion of "treatment" consisting of prescribing a slew of pills.
Good job. How far is work from the gaff
 

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Two miles. That is indeed perfect, weather permitting. 20 miles a week
 

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Veganism is healthy if done properly, but that's very hard to do. Most people don't.

I'm pretty much Pesco. Don't eat much pork or red meat. The best diet I've found is white fish with lots of beans/criciferous vegetables. Clean carbs like potato. I never eat fake dairy, margarine and vegetable spreads are the worst things ever invented. Butter and milk is the go.
 

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I cut down on meat a number of years ago. At the time I was in the grip of what would now probably be labelled an "eating disorder". I was working all hours to the detriment of my general wellbeing: takeaways every second night, gorging on rubbish 24/7. I stopped playing football, which had kept me fit and healthy for years. I went from 12 stone to almost 18, which is unbelievable to me now looking back.

One day I made a conscious decision to make some lifestyle changes. I started walking to work, stopped ordering takeaways; started eating lots of fruit and vegetables and cut out fizzy drinks and chocolate.

Making these relatively small changes had a huge impact on my life and general wellbeing. I very quickly shed the weight I had gained and felt much more clear minded and focused.

I haven't looked back since.

I understand that the doctors are advised to recommend exercise as the first step in dealing with patients suffering from depression. I wonder to what extent common ailments could be treated much more effectively through simple lifestyle changes as opposed to the current fashion of "treatment" consisting of prescribing a slew of pills.
I believe all wokes should be encouraged to stop eating altogether. I would probably not be on to stop drinking water but it should be OK to stop eating food.
 

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Veganism is healthy if done properly, but that's very hard to do. Most people don't.

I'm pretty much Pesco. Don't eat much pork or red meat. The best diet I've found is white fish with lots of beans/criciferous vegetables. Clean carbs like potato. I never eat fake dairy, margarine and vegetable spreads are the worst things ever invented. Butter and milk is the go.
I eat very little Pork and less since seeing the wild hogs in South East USA. I eat an occasional sausage, rasher and I like white pudding. Lamb is my favourite meat if they are reared on a mixed farm. If reared on a 100% sheep farm they don't taste as good. I eat beef too.

No vegetarian works for a living. They are kept people. Someone else has to work to allow them not to work
 

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Obesity in the US has gone through the roof since the 60s.

What happened then?

People began drifting away from real food to high-carb, processed shit, and began eating more often too.

One or two meals a day consisting of meat and vegetables, which we have eaten for thousands of years, and nobody would be fat!
 
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I eat very little Pork and less since seeing the wild hogs in South East USA. I eat an occasional sausage, rasher and I like white pudding. Lamb is my favourite meat if they are reared on a mixed farm. If reared on a 100% sheep farm they don't taste as good. I eat beef too.

No vegetarian works for a living. They are kept people. Someone else has to work to allow them not to work
Why does that affect the flavour of the meat Val?
 

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I eat very little Pork and less since seeing the wild hogs in South East USA. I eat an occasional sausage, rasher and I like white pudding. Lamb is my favourite meat if they are reared on a mixed farm. If reared on a 100% sheep farm they don't taste as good. I eat beef too.

No vegetarian works for a living. They are kept people. Someone else has to work to allow them not to work
Bacon is great but I don't have it often. A slow-cooked lamb shank with good mash is a meal fit for a king.
 

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Obesity in the US has gone through the roof since the 60s.

What happened then?

People began drifting away from real food to high-carb, processed shit, and began eating more often too.

One or two meals a day consisting of meat and vegetables, which we have eaten for thousands of years, and nobody would be fat!
Corn syrup and monounsaturated fats.
 

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I cut down on meat a number of years ago. At the time I was in the grip of what would now probably be labelled an "eating disorder". I was working all hours to the detriment of my general wellbeing: takeaways every second night, gorging on rubbish 24/7. I stopped playing football, which had kept me fit and healthy for years. I went from 12 stone to almost 18, which is unbelievable to me now looking back.

One day I made a conscious decision to make some lifestyle changes. I started walking to work, stopped ordering takeaways; started eating lots of fruit and vegetables and cut out fizzy drinks and chocolate.

Making these relatively small changes had a huge impact on my life and general wellbeing. I very quickly shed the weight I had gained and felt much more clear minded and focused.

I haven't looked back since.

I understand that the doctors are advised to recommend exercise as the first step in dealing with patients suffering from depression. I wonder to what extent common ailments could be treated much more effectively through simple lifestyle changes as opposed to the current fashion of "treatment" consisting of prescribing a slew of pills.
Good for you. Some interesting new studies on meat:


View: https://twitter.com/Mangan150/status/1775872304821731683
 

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There you go, filled in the bit you missed. :giggle:
The (vegan) thing is though that meat free food is nutritious & delicious when blended and created with skill and flair.
They've got plenty of valid points in regard to a broad range of diverse aspects of meat production/consumption.

Ideally free range grass/vegetation grown creatures are good practice and in consumption the prime cuts are good eating but . . . Many meaty products are derived from far away factories which use rendered by products from the carcasses of questionable animals mixed with bulker's, filler's and chemicals. That is not really meat but aul scabby donkey bits minced up with pig fat, chemical jelly, rusk, salt and flavouring from a chemical bottle :geek:
Many proud meat eaters miss out when reading the ingredients of their Pies, Kebabs, luncheon meat, mince meat etc etc
 

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Pull the other one Love. There's not a Sligo man in history who didn't love to tuck into his full Irish of a morning.
 

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Pull the other one Love. There's not a Sligo man in history who didn't love to tuck into his full Irish of a morning.
Yeah but a full Irish is not fully Irish(so it's fake as some meat products, see?)

I went to the local butcher the other day looking for "organic lean lamb mince" and was shocked by the Butchers response - "No, we don't sell it this past 8 months - None of it, no locally produced Irish lamb available, it's become to expensive to buy and All goes for export":oops:

Mind you the locally made bread, farm produced free range eggs and ox mountain honeycomb more than make up for the danish bacon packed in co cork;)
 

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I just hammered a breakfast roll into me there , it went down very well I must say :) is there a vegan breakfast roll ? I wouldn't get it if there was
 

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The (vegan) thing is though that meat free food is nutritious & delicious when blended and created with skill and flair.
They've got plenty of valid points in regard to a broad range of diverse aspects of meat production/consumption.

Ideally free range grass/vegetation grown creatures are good practice and in consumption the prime cuts are good eating but . . . Many meaty products are derived from far away factories which use rendered by products from the carcasses of questionable animals mixed with bulker's, filler's and chemicals. That is not really meat but aul scabby donkey bits minced up with pig fat, chemical jelly, rusk, salt and flavouring from a chemical bottle :geek:
Many proud meat eaters miss out when reading the ingredients of their Pies, Kebabs, luncheon meat, mince meat etc etc
Not everyone has that skill or flair, I certainly don't have the patience. Stick a steak into the George Foreman, microwave some veg, job done. It is us idle b'stards that the food industry loves.

Indeed, chicken nuggets derived from 'mechanically recovered meat' ie, bits of flesh hosed off the bone with a pressure washer, and similar tit bits, hardly feature in my diet. But not all processed foods are highly processed, there are more than 50 shades of grey in between all the crappy stuff you list and an immaculately grown carrot.

The price issue with organic food is that it relies on farming methods that may be more wholesome, but they are also less efficient from the point of view of converting sunlight to food on the plate, although that will depend on how you measure efficiency. However, it can be done Sweden is a case in point, but it requires a whole new approach to farming which few are equipped, intellectually and psychologically , to adopt.
 

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Yeah but a full Irish is not fully Irish(so it's fake as some meat products, see?)

I went to the local butcher the other day looking for "organic lean lamb mince" and was shocked by the Butchers response - "No, we don't sell it this past 8 months - None of it, no locally produced Irish lamb available, it's become to expensive to buy and All goes for export":oops:

Mind you the locally made bread, farm produced free range eggs and ox mountain honeycomb more than make up for the danish bacon packed in co cork;)
That imported meat that's "processed " therefore its "produced in Ireland " is a fraud .
Is it still being allowed happen?
 

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Dunno, but assumed it would be, why change a system which pays?
 

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I hear Aldi and Tesco dairy products will have a chemical in them that stops cows farting.

Full Fart Milk? Not for me.
But surely it's Low-Fart Milk.
Of course now you're teetotal it makes little difference, but hark back to the days of having a gut full of Wine, Guinness & a boiled eggs curry or such like - A pint of that milk would have been a great relief . . . :p
 

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I'm no more T-total than Shane McGowan was Sir. But I do love a glass of cold milk. Its my favourite drink!

I won't be buying it from Aldi anymore though.
 

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