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Declan said:
Was there even a riot. One store was robbed and two cars and a bicycle was burned to make a vivdeo
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It wasn't all that really = = But it just goes to show how fragile the hold, that the Corrupt Irish Politicians actually have.
 
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Has anyone broken the window of a politician for example

We are hardly talking Michael Collins here.

It is all staged from start to finish and the end goal is the same.

The elimination of Irish identity and culture.
 
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Declan said:
Has anyone broken the window of a politician for example

We are hardly talking Michael Collins here.

It is all staged from start to finish and the end goal is the same.

The elimination of Irish identity and culture.
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Shit nappies were thrown into Stephen donnollys home residence last year , cue ball Murphy's flat was also picketed at one stage
 
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Isn't it interesting that in 2023 the Irish " Government " is threatening to use British Canons ( OK Water Canons ) on the Irish People ~ ~ Just as the British used British Canons in 1916 and another Irish " Government " used British Canons in 1922.

By the way these Canons ( Water Canons ) are under the Control of the British Mi5 Man, Drew Harris ! ! !
 
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The following is the relevant portion of An Bunreacht outlining the personal right to freedom of expression.


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They need a public disorder incident to bring in the censorship legislation. This legislation is of a public morality type. The original constitution expressly meant Christian morality, the change we're seeing now is the imposition of a new doctrine of morality.

This school stabbing incident is a collateral cost of the migration policy. It was never going to matter if such incidents arose - the costs would be absorbed - the policy is more important. It just gives an opportunity to implement the legislation restricting criticism of it. There you go.

A seditious utterance would be the suggestion that we are living under a foreign or treacherous government, an indecent one would have been the exposure of minors or the vulnerable to sexual explicit subject matter or sexual solicitation. I'm not sure what it is now, what with the legalisation and promotion of grooming. I think it might have something to do with pronouns but it's pretty unclear.

I've known numerous immigrants, and I've found the majority of them to be good and decent people - as good as any of us. There is always a seam in any community that is bad but glasshouses and stones.

It's often the case that those who excite animosity against immigrants (that are perfectly fine) are covering up for their own weaknesses and trying to summon group affinities to make allowances for their personal failings. While this can be said of us, it can be also said of other communities, so we're all dealing with it. The whole "antifa" crowd are exactly up to this carry on and I have nothing but contempt for them as a result.

When it comes to the migration question, the government released some explanation that this guy, who tried to murder Irish children, didn't get enough money so it's really a resources problem. This is the most benign excuse for it but let's examine it.

First, I have no objection to European immigrants and generally find them to be good people - South Americans are broadly in this bracket. There are criminal networks that have followed them over but examples of these are the exception rather than the rule. They generally integrate very well into society and are reliable skilled people. While we should not be complacent about the criminals, it would be unfair and stupid to define them by such examples. Eastern Europeans are good colleagues and good company. Irish policy for Ukrainian refugees is to warehouse them until the end of the war - theirs is not an asylum of the economic sort and most closely resembles the original intent of the rule.

Where migration is sourced from other parts of the world, regions that do not have the same civilisational roots, we should be more prudent, and not permit multitudes to enter the country merely to fuel the social provision industry. There is a feasible number that can be adequately integrated where the system can meet their expectations.

It seems that this individual, according to the government's account, felt failed by the prospects he thought Ireland would provide and descended into a mental maelstrom that resulted in an attempted deadly assault that could well have deeply scarred a number of Irish children.

The overwhelming of systemic and societal capacities caused this attack, and the government should recognise and address this. However, we can have no confidence in the competence of the government to do this given the trends in recent years and their resorts in this incident.

The Gardaí were quick to decide that this was not the product of some plan to instrumentalise this man in order to radicalise Irish politics. One would expect that this matter is being more fully studied.

It is not unreasonable to expect that the local community would react viscerally to a knife attack on Irish children. There were a number of hours between the incident and the first outbreak of rioting. The Garda Commissioner is not allowed to be a failure. It cannot be said that he did not have experience with social unrest. The lack of the decisive action to reassure the public and anticipate foment is indictable.

The path chosen by the minister and the commissioner was neglectful. It indicates either an inability or a disregard. The cost to the public and private purse, to the public peace, and the public reputation of the capital city, rests squarely on their shoulders.

Our public offices are not sinecures. Mammy is not in charge, reality is.
 
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clarke-connolly said:
Isn't it interesting that in 2023 the Irish " Government " is threatening to use British Canons ( OK Water Canons ) on the Irish People ~ ~ Just as the British used British Canons in 1916 and another Irish " Government " used British Canons in 1922.

By the way these Canons ( Water Canons ) are under the Control of the British Mi5 Man, Drew Harris ! ! !
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And we'll all be able to tune in to it 10 times a day with Mi5 Kev's RTE telly blahdio extravaganza🥳
 
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It's often the case that those who excite animosity against immigrants (that are perfectly fine) are covering up for their own weaknesses and trying to summon group affinities to make allowances for their personal failings.
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A common propaganda ploy to cast patriots as losers.

I perhaps suffer from a superiority complex and take it as a given that I am as smart or smarter than anyone I meet.

My concern is that from history, the irish are to be eliminated from Ireland, as always happens to the natives.

Except nowadays the natives actually pay for their own deaths and burials. It is a bizarre first in fact.
 
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Coal Gas and peat said:
There is no Jimbo......I do not recall there ever being a "Jimbo" on this or other sites :unsure:
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It was a fitting name given in response to the cumbersomeness of DHBB handle. I think it was equating him with one of those characters in Deliverance. However, his style and manner of comment also aligns with Wormtongue.
 
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Declan said:
A common propaganda ploy to cast patriots as losers.

I perhaps suffer from a superiority complex and take it as a given that I am as smart or smarter than anyone I meet.

My concern is that from history, the irish are to be eliminated from Ireland, as always happens to the natives.

Except nowadays the natives actually pay for their own deaths and burials. It is a bizarre first in fact.
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Patriotism isn't defined by hatred of scapegoats but by love of country. A citizen is a trained patriot. It is distinguished by knowledge, discipline and duty. If you want to perfect patriotism then nurture citizenship. That is what was done during the Irish Renaissance, and what brought us success in the Irish Revolution - it strengthened our arms and calmed our peace.

Our revolution was preceded by the American Revolution, where the decades prior to the Declaration of Independence saw the development of the contours of citizenship from the confines of subjection. Just as a marine is of a different quality to a goon so a citizen is of a different quality to a subject.

Ireland is a nation state. If this has changed then I suggest that the government inform us. There is no reason to be ashamed of our heritage and no genuine reason for us not to continue to work for its continuance.
 
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tldr said:
Patriotism isn't defined by hatred of scapegoats but by love of country. A citizen is a trained patriot. It is distinguished by knowledge, discipline and duty. If you want to perfect patriotism then nurture citizenship. That is what was done during the Irish Renaissance, and what brought us success in the Irish Revolution - it strengthened our arms and calmed our peace.

Our revolution was preceded by the American Revolution, where the decades prior to the Declaration of Independence saw the development of the contours of citizenship from the confines of subjection. Just as a marine is of a different quality to a goon so a citizen is of a different quality to a subject.

Ireland is a nation state. If this has changed then I suggest that the government inform us. There is no reason to be ashamed of our heritage and no genuine reason for us not to continue to work for its continuance.
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That gobbledygook did not work out too good for The Wampanoag Patriots though.
 
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Declan said:
Yes. I expect ZERO Irish in Ireland by 2113. Ninert years from now.
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Do you think this is deliberate? It wasn't in the program for government. Has anyone seriously asked them? We'll see then if they deflect or respond. What would be the characteristics of such a policy of neo-colonialism? Let's see if matches their behaviour. It's a very serious claim which deserves a very serious treatment.

There could be another reason for runaway immigration - it suits the short term interests of the conglomeration of groups that developed over the past 30 years. They all make a buck from it and it has, by now, amassed such an institutional size that no individual thinks that it is possible or desirable to reduce it.

There are other examples of this which I think is called the engineer's curse. The Soviet Union was very fond of embarking on enormous projects - take the Virgin Lands Campaign by Khrushchev.

The operational capacity of the scheme increased to such a size (the formation of manpower, machinery, supplies, political investment etc.) that new, ever more ambitious projects were undertaken to feed the machine rather than with a view to their viability. The destruction of the Aral sea was one result.

It not only dried up an abundant ecosystem but also changed the weather from maritime to arid, hurled millions of tons of salt into the air which poisoned land for hundreds of kilometers around, devastated the local economies, reduced Soviet protein rations, and caused chronic health conditions for millions of people.

The whole campaign was finally judged a serious misallocation of resources and hamstrung the USSR in the Cold War. It also led to the assumption to power of a moribund politburo.

Another, recent example, is in China and the rise of ghost cities. Here, too, there are massive projects undertaken to occupy mobilised resources rather than to produce productive value. The Belt and Road initiative in Sri Lanka has examples of this as well.

It could be that the migration issue could be an instance of this in the West. It is beyond the mental horizon of the average politician and they're just riding the wave. The steps necessary to mitigate it are not considered politically possible and measures to stop its evolution weren't taken when costs were feasible. The destruction of Libya didn't help so there are a lot of people spooked by the responsibility of their past mistakes who encouraged an institutional framework to conceal them.

It's the same for those migrants that find themselves here. It's pointless to harangue the migrants themselves - what can they do about it? Wouldn't you parade around in a cashmere coat on the telly looking for sympathy if you were given the chance?

What we can do is push the government into managing the problems that arise from this influx and to appoint competent people to lead the response. That would calm the public and better serve the migrants.

The first action would be to put a pause on extra-continental undifferentiated migration for a couple of years until we get our heads around what the implication of large influxes of people has had on the country.

We've had a number of school children and a staff member stabbed - drastic action has to be taken. This incident was a very close call and a very serious one. It will only get worse if papered over.
 

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