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Declan said:
Absolutely. Although the likes of Leo may not even be able to figure out what is going on. He is handed the memo and that is the policy.
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So you think Varadkar is the political equivalent of this:


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Saying something like that might get you arrested in the near future if you ever come back to Ireland.
 
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Is that homosexual looking chap on the drums your buddy in Helsinki
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In fairness, it's a good tune. Not Mowl if that's the implication. That's more like the old you though. You've mellowed a bit.
 
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tldr said:
There could be another reason for runaway immigration - it suits the short term interests of the conglomeration of groups that developed over the past 30 years. They all make a buck from it and it has, by now, amassed such an institutional size that no individual thinks that it is possible or desirable to reduce it.
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This too is rubbish and is pushed here in the US to the stupid.

Democrats are told rich people want cheap labor.
Republicans are told that democrats want new voters.

Both are nonsense of course. The invader is to dilute and then kill off the native. And the invader returns home or dies off in places like Ireland or Sweden as soon as the money stops.

And bingo, the objective, an empty nature park. A giant Safari Park.
 
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In fairness, it's a good tune. Not Mowl if that's the implication. That's more like the old you though. You've mellowed a bit.
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After my visit to Leixlip and learned the situation, I lost interest and moved on
 
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After my visit to Leixlip and learned the situation, I lost interest and moved on
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Leixlip has changed a lot but for the better in large part. Intel are very invested into it. It was more out west I thought you'd find yourself. You might turn up on a Skellig one of these days, you never know. Anyway, you're in your element over there and I wish you the best.
 
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I hear we are all racists now Father!


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Nigerian princes and all that but remember they are dependents of the system and do its bidding. While a scam is being bought it will be pushed. Part of an aggressive sales strategy is to intimidate the buyer - if you can get away with it, then do it - is the maxim. There are interesting observations from Peterson below that lead with how sales are made but then branches out. That's why the far-right moniker is being used for dissent.


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Here's the poll from May this year that Watson references (so it is real).

'Poll finds that 75 per cent of people believe that the number of refugees Ireland is taking in is ‘now too many’ and there have been at least 125 anti-immigration protests since the start of the year'

Red C poll: three out of four think Ireland has taken too many refugees - Business Post


This details the upcoming introduction of DEI officers into companies.

'One of Ireland’s most prominent law firms has described the proposed hate speech legislation as a “radical” change to the law, which could see companies facing charges under the bill, including in circumstances when an offence is committed by a employee or representative of the company.

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Matheson says that “the current iteration of the Bill provides a defence for the corporate body to show that it took all reasonable steps and exercised due diligence to avoid the commission of the particular offence. Therefore, to establish and maintain such a defence, companies will need to have the appropriate processes and procedures in place. ”

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Free Speech Ireland said that the sponsors of the Hate Speech Bill had refused to define ‘hate,’ leaving the assessment to Gardaí and said an analysis by former Justice Minister, Michael McDowell had pointed out that ‘Hate Speech’ citizens’ arrests would be possible.'

Law firm says hate speech bill will apply to companies - Gript


'One of the stories that’s not getting a lot of attention from political correspondents at the moment is that Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael in particular are desperately struggling to find candidates ahead of next year’s local and EU elections. One informed observer, involved in selection processes over the past three decades, says he has never seen it as bad: “Nobody wants to run”, was his simple verdict. “And those that do want to run are the last people you’d want on a ballot paper”.

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There is also a shared frustration in Fine Gael that the party is simply not listening to the public: On immigration, law and order, hate speech, and other so-called “woke issues”, the same TD described their party as being “absolutely miles away from common sense”. “We had the centre ground under Enda”, they said “but now we’re indistinguishable from the Soc Dems”. Separately, they said that “it’s very frustrating to sit there agreeing with the criticisms but having to be a good party soldier”.

There is a fear in Fine Gael that the retirements might exacerbate already anticipated losses, both at council and national level. “As things stand, we’re on course to be destroyed. Don’t worry about what the polls say. The hostility is at an unprecedented level”, the activist involved in selections said.'

Unhappy party: Fergus O’Dowd and the Fine Gael stampede - Gript


I'm not in any way interested in the battle of the races or class struggle or the like. I'm much more interested in seeing the functional operation of the Irish polity.

This is a nation state where the people have a political system rather than a political system having a population. The nation is primarily a cultural entity that is generated over historical time. The political system's core function is to provide infrastructure for the nation to flourish - not to displace the life of the nation for its own.

We have a republican form of government currently because this is the most advanced type that yields the greatest returns in terms of liberty, peace and prosperity. However, if we are not able to support its requirements then a lower form of government will be chosen to supersede a decrepit system that can no longer be maintained.

The chief currency of a political system is it's constituent parts - its citizens, or proles, or subjects, or chattel etc. Each of these have different qualities and mentalities -and so the line 'Sworn to be free, no more our ancient sireland, shall shelter the despot or the slave' is included in the national anthem.

This is why command-control ideologies, if they wrest power, set out first to effect vast changes to the socioeconomic environment and are avidly devoted to mass indoctrination. They are trying to change those within their orbit into useful "units" of their system. They must do this before the lag in popular realisation catches up with them.

Ideological systems are artifices rather than organic entities, and are very narrowly focused in the interests they serve. The activists of such may be of a lesser quality but they do have advantages in persistence, moral freedom and concentration since their field of view is constricted to power accumulation. In all these things they are a parody of natural healthy human features - that's why there's such a lot humour in the social aether presently, but there will be a tipping point when it won't be funny anymore.

It may be a bit harsh to compare the vectors of present government activity to the infiltration of an ideological faction into a body politic but there are warning lights going off on the panel. The introduction of a capricious security law is one such example. It looks likely that the next government will deliver the coup de grace given the way it is shaping up if that's the way we're going. It'll be a sour comfort to say that at least I wasn't complicit but it will be some comfort.

It doesn't look like we have any good choices in the next election. Sinn Féin are falling into the same trap as the SNP and have forgotten the mission. The left wing parties are all manic, with labour being the creepiest among them. The centrist traditional party has little support and the two big parties are salt without taste. There are independents but independents doth not a government make.

Shouldn't we all just give up and officially ask for a Lord Lieutenant?
 
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This is an interesting article

https://thecritic.co.uk/tensions-in-ireland-were-bound-to-boil-over/

Tensions in Ireland were bound to boil over​

The Irish have had enough of being lectured

ARTILLERY ROW
By
John McGuirk
29 November, 2023

Perhaps the best way to describe Irish politics in the present moment is as follows: The Irish ruling class — a term I use to include politicians, most journalists, the majority of academia, our NGO sector, and senior executives in the techy Irish business sector — simply does not much like the electorate, or the population, that they govern.
This dislike is expressed in various ways. It is no exaggeration to say that one cannot turn on the radio in Ireland without hearing an advert, paid for by a Government agency, warning the public about their behaviour. Amongst other things, these adverts warn us, we eat too much meat. We also drink too much. Those of us who are young men, the adverts warn us, are insufficiently respectful of women. We drive too fast. We consume too much misinformation, and disinformation, especially on social media. We cause climate change. We use too much plastic. On, and on, it goes.
The sheer sums of money expended annually on “nudging” the population to behave in certain ways is mind-boggling: To put it in context, the annual defence budget is under a billion euros. The annual sum allocated to “support” the work of NGOs in Ireland is almost nine billion euros.
These NGOs range from the usuals — the national women’s council, the immigrant council, and so on — to the issue specific. There is an NGO whose purpose is to lobby the Government and the public for restrictions on alcohol. It is funded by the very department it is supposed to lobby. There are NGOs who exist to promote diversity in the media, though this diversity is certainly not of thought. On and on, it goes, this national effort at improving the behaviour and conduct of the people, in order to make them a little bit less embarrassing to our leaders.
I mention all of this because last Thursday, the worst fears of our ruling class were confirmed when widespread rioting broke out in Dublin.
To say that tensions in Ireland over immigration are simmering would be an understatement
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The proximate cause of that rioting was, depending on your point of view, either the stabbing of three young children in broad daylight outside of a school, or the irresponsible behaviour of this reporter in revealing that the primary suspect for that attack is an Algerian person who was once subject to a deportation order but remains in the country 20 years later, never having held a job in that time. More on that in a second. First, some background:
To say that tensions in Ireland over immigration are simmering would be an understatement. Consider the facts: Over the past decade, the average population increase in the EU is 1.6 per cent. In Ireland, that figure is 12.7 per cent.
One of our leading housing economists estimates that we need 70,000 new homes annually just to stand still: We are building just 30,000 — itself a record effort.
In recent months, the Government, out of desperation, resorted to accommodating migrants in a tent camp erected for the “Electric Picnic” festival — a sort of Irish Glastonbury. Dilapidated hotels, church halls, and even private residences have been pressed into service, with homeowners offered €800 per month to accommodate a Ukrainian refugee in their spare rooms.
Despite the insistence of politicians that this influx is Ireland’s “international obligation”, and overwhelmingly pro-immigration media coverage, opinion polling shows that the public have had enough. 75 per cent say that we have taken too many migrants in general, per the last poll to ask the question. This weekend, 66 per cent said that we had taken too many of the relatively popular — and sympathetically viewed — Ukrainians.
Against this background of overcrowding, crime has become an issue, both at a low level and in high profile ways. Communities across the country have reported issues with migrant men — usually unemployed and living in cramped conditions in all-male spaces — creating anti-social behaviour problems in the areas in which they have been accommodated. And then there have been the murders: Yousef Palani, an Iraqi born man, was convicted of decapitating two gay men in the northwestern town of Sligo, and blinding another. Jozef Puska, a Slovakian man, was convicted of murdering Ashling Murphy, a 22 year old schoolteacher, in a crime that shocked the country.
In his victim impact statement, Ashling Murphy’s boyfriend, Ryan Casey, asked a pertinent question about her murderer: How was it, he asked, that such a person could come to Ireland, live here for ten years, never work or hold down a job, and be given a five-bedroom house (the council house in which Puska lived, with his family)?
The statement was widely omitted from press coverage of the trial, but circulated widely online.
Less than two weeks later, an Algerian assailant stabbed three young children, and all hell broke loose.
At this juncture, psychologically, it is important to understand the mindset of the Irish ruling class: It is one of almost unlimited smugness.
 
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Tiger said:
This is an interesting article

https://thecritic.co.uk/tensions-in-ireland-were-bound-to-boil-over/

Tensions in Ireland were bound to boil over​

The Irish have had enough of being lectured

ARTILLERY ROW
By
John McGuirk
29 November, 2023

Perhaps the best way to describe Irish politics in the present moment is as follows: The Irish ruling class — a term I use to include politicians, most journalists, the majority of academia, our NGO sector, and senior executives in the techy Irish business sector — simply does not much like the electorate, or the population, that they govern.
This dislike is expressed in various ways. It is no exaggeration to say that one cannot turn on the radio in Ireland without hearing an advert, paid for by a Government agency, warning the public about their behaviour. Amongst other things, these adverts warn us, we eat too much meat. We also drink too much. Those of us who are young men, the adverts warn us, are insufficiently respectful of women. We drive too fast. We consume too much misinformation, and disinformation, especially on social media. We cause climate change. We use too much plastic. On, and on, it goes.
The sheer sums of money expended annually on “nudging” the population to behave in certain ways is mind-boggling: To put it in context, the annual defence budget is under a billion euros. The annual sum allocated to “support” the work of NGOs in Ireland is almost nine billion euros.
These NGOs range from the usuals — the national women’s council, the immigrant council, and so on — to the issue specific. There is an NGO whose purpose is to lobby the Government and the public for restrictions on alcohol. It is funded by the very department it is supposed to lobby. There are NGOs who exist to promote diversity in the media, though this diversity is certainly not of thought. On and on, it goes, this national effort at improving the behaviour and conduct of the people, in order to make them a little bit less embarrassing to our leaders.
I mention all of this because last Thursday, the worst fears of our ruling class were confirmed when widespread rioting broke out in Dublin.

The proximate cause of that rioting was, depending on your point of view, either the stabbing of three young children in broad daylight outside of a school, or the irresponsible behaviour of this reporter in revealing that the primary suspect for that attack is an Algerian person who was once subject to a deportation order but remains in the country 20 years later, never having held a job in that time. More on that in a second. First, some background:
To say that tensions in Ireland over immigration are simmering would be an understatement. Consider the facts: Over the past decade, the average population increase in the EU is 1.6 per cent. In Ireland, that figure is 12.7 per cent.
One of our leading housing economists estimates that we need 70,000 new homes annually just to stand still: We are building just 30,000 — itself a record effort.
In recent months, the Government, out of desperation, resorted to accommodating migrants in a tent camp erected for the “Electric Picnic” festival — a sort of Irish Glastonbury. Dilapidated hotels, church halls, and even private residences have been pressed into service, with homeowners offered €800 per month to accommodate a Ukrainian refugee in their spare rooms.
Despite the insistence of politicians that this influx is Ireland’s “international obligation”, and overwhelmingly pro-immigration media coverage, opinion polling shows that the public have had enough. 75 per cent say that we have taken too many migrants in general, per the last poll to ask the question. This weekend, 66 per cent said that we had taken too many of the relatively popular — and sympathetically viewed — Ukrainians.
Against this background of overcrowding, crime has become an issue, both at a low level and in high profile ways. Communities across the country have reported issues with migrant men — usually unemployed and living in cramped conditions in all-male spaces — creating anti-social behaviour problems in the areas in which they have been accommodated. And then there have been the murders: Yousef Palani, an Iraqi born man, was convicted of decapitating two gay men in the northwestern town of Sligo, and blinding another. Jozef Puska, a Slovakian man, was convicted of murdering Ashling Murphy, a 22 year old schoolteacher, in a crime that shocked the country.
In his victim impact statement, Ashling Murphy’s boyfriend, Ryan Casey, asked a pertinent question about her murderer: How was it, he asked, that such a person could come to Ireland, live here for ten years, never work or hold down a job, and be given a five-bedroom house (the council house in which Puska lived, with his family)?
The statement was widely omitted from press coverage of the trial, but circulated widely online.
Less than two weeks later, an Algerian assailant stabbed three young children, and all hell broke loose.
At this juncture, psychologically, it is important to understand the mindset of the Irish ruling class: It is one of almost unlimited smugness.
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Great Piece = = It Is Time For The Irish People To Strike / Revolt For Freedom.
 
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jpc said:
Myles! If it's not too impolite a question. What's your problem with actually reading some articles that add context to ongoing issues?
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They're too long, I can't concentrate for that amount of time.

I want Memes, Videos, short & to the point text, pictures and so forth.

I can't waste my time reading a load of waffle Sir.
 
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Coal Gas and peat said:
www.thejournal.ie

TDs photographed with far-right figures are 'laundering conspiracy theories', Dáil warned

Paul Murphy said politicians ‘have to look at the role of some people in this chamber’ when looking at how last week’s scenes arose.
www.thejournal.ie www.thejournal.ie

Cue ball Murphy WILL lose the seat ......this is incredible hatred
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Not guaranteed in a 5 seat.

SF had two quotas and stupidly had just one candidate.

So it is a given that 2 SF, a FF and a FG.

So either cue ball or the Green must exit.


Philip Dwyer ran and got about 525 votes or 0.8%.

He will likely run and a respectable showing would be 1500 plus.
 
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It's absolutely no wonder that sections of the communities are justifiably enraged with Government Priorities and failures to provide basics for Irish families while budgeting 100's of millions toward foreign strangers who are taking up/Given by Gov, scarce Irish public resources.

LOCAL AUTHORITIES PROVIDED just 44 units of Traveller accommodation in the three years to 2021, despite almost 3,000 Traveller families being in need of accommodation, the Irish Traveller Movement (ITM) will tell an Oireachtas committee today. . . .
www.thejournal.ie

Local authorities provided just 44 units of Traveller housing in three years, Committee to hear

The Irish Traveller Movement will appear before an Oireachtas committee this morning to discuss Traveller accommodation.
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Look at these, Two Establishment Media Hacks, doing just as you would expect from, Two Establishment Media Hacks.

Very little explanation of anything ~ As you would expect from Establishment Media Hacks, but plenty of throwing shade at Gript ~ Especially as Gript were just reporting what had been reported in many other places.

Also No explanation as to why we are not getting any up-date of any of the people injured including the Scumbag Perpetrator.

If the family of the child really badly injured asked for their, Privacy to be Respected = = This would be Reported Immediately as it would suit the Government and Establishment = = Obviously the families of the innocents won't sing the tune that the Government / Establishment want.

The Sick Country that the Republic of Ireland just carries on getting Even Sicker.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzuGtbUtlCg
 
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clarke-connolly said:
Great Piece = = It Is Time For The Irish People To Strike / Revolt For Freedom.
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Tiger said:
This is an interesting article

https://thecritic.co.uk/tensions-in-ireland-were-bound-to-boil-over/

Tensions in Ireland were bound to boil over​

The Irish have had enough of being lectured

ARTILLERY ROW
By
John McGuirk
29 November, 2023

Perhaps the best way to describe Irish politics in the present moment is as follows: The Irish ruling class — a term I use to include politicians, most journalists, the majority of academia, our NGO sector, and senior executives in the techy Irish business sector — simply does not much like the electorate, or the population, that they govern.
This dislike is expressed in various ways. It is no exaggeration to say that one cannot turn on the radio in Ireland without hearing an advert, paid for by a Government agency, warning the public about their behaviour. Amongst other things, these adverts warn us, we eat too much meat. We also drink too much. Those of us who are young men, the adverts warn us, are insufficiently respectful of women. We drive too fast. We consume too much misinformation, and disinformation, especially on social media. We cause climate change. We use too much plastic. On, and on, it goes.
The sheer sums of money expended annually on “nudging” the population to behave in certain ways is mind-boggling: To put it in context, the annual defence budget is under a billion euros. The annual sum allocated to “support” the work of NGOs in Ireland is almost nine billion euros.
These NGOs range from the usuals — the national women’s council, the immigrant council, and so on — to the issue specific. There is an NGO whose purpose is to lobby the Government and the public for restrictions on alcohol. It is funded by the very department it is supposed to lobby. There are NGOs who exist to promote diversity in the media, though this diversity is certainly not of thought. On and on, it goes, this national effort at improving the behaviour and conduct of the people, in order to make them a little bit less embarrassing to our leaders.
I mention all of this because last Thursday, the worst fears of our ruling class were confirmed when widespread rioting broke out in Dublin.

The proximate cause of that rioting was, depending on your point of view, either the stabbing of three young children in broad daylight outside of a school, or the irresponsible behaviour of this reporter in revealing that the primary suspect for that attack is an Algerian person who was once subject to a deportation order but remains in the country 20 years later, never having held a job in that time. More on that in a second. First, some background:
To say that tensions in Ireland over immigration are simmering would be an understatement. Consider the facts: Over the past decade, the average population increase in the EU is 1.6 per cent. In Ireland, that figure is 12.7 per cent.
One of our leading housing economists estimates that we need 70,000 new homes annually just to stand still: We are building just 30,000 — itself a record effort.
In recent months, the Government, out of desperation, resorted to accommodating migrants in a tent camp erected for the “Electric Picnic” festival — a sort of Irish Glastonbury. Dilapidated hotels, church halls, and even private residences have been pressed into service, with homeowners offered €800 per month to accommodate a Ukrainian refugee in their spare rooms.
Despite the insistence of politicians that this influx is Ireland’s “international obligation”, and overwhelmingly pro-immigration media coverage, opinion polling shows that the public have had enough. 75 per cent say that we have taken too many migrants in general, per the last poll to ask the question. This weekend, 66 per cent said that we had taken too many of the relatively popular — and sympathetically viewed — Ukrainians.
Against this background of overcrowding, crime has become an issue, both at a low level and in high profile ways. Communities across the country have reported issues with migrant men — usually unemployed and living in cramped conditions in all-male spaces — creating anti-social behaviour problems in the areas in which they have been accommodated. And then there have been the murders: Yousef Palani, an Iraqi born man, was convicted of decapitating two gay men in the northwestern town of Sligo, and blinding another. Jozef Puska, a Slovakian man, was convicted of murdering Ashling Murphy, a 22 year old schoolteacher, in a crime that shocked the country.
In his victim impact statement, Ashling Murphy’s boyfriend, Ryan Casey, asked a pertinent question about her murderer: How was it, he asked, that such a person could come to Ireland, live here for ten years, never work or hold down a job, and be given a five-bedroom house (the council house in which Puska lived, with his family)?
The statement was widely omitted from press coverage of the trial, but circulated widely online.
Less than two weeks later, an Algerian assailant stabbed three young children, and all hell broke loose.
At this juncture, psychologically, it is important to understand the mindset of the Irish ruling class: It is one of almost unlimited smugness.
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@Tiger,
I have forwarded this article to 3 people l know who do not frequent political forums.
 
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Ryan Casey “This country needs to wake up. This time things have got to change. We have to once and for all start putting the safety of not only Irish people but everybody who works hard, pays taxes, raises families, and overall contributes to society, first.”

Kitty Holland et al would tell you
Puska, 33, was born in Slovakia, which is now an EU state, and was legally entitled to benefits here under European law.
Some law that supports the likes of this vermin, who can claim disability allowance while roaming around Ireland on his free bicycle.
 

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