Myles' LGBTQIA+ thread

Roc. said:
The likes of China and Russia are totalitarian regimes that understand the power that enforcement of cultural and political homogeneity yields them.

They can effectively treat millions of people as one - who they know how to speak to, manipulate, curate, and thereby control.

The surveillance, linguistic and cultural “integration” policies that are core to the totalitarianism that prevails there would be unviable without this homogeneous so called “National” character and mass “ identity.”
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You seem to specialise in missing the point.

Spectacularly.
 
Tiger said:
Actually it’s the video that you posted that said it. You most likely didn’t watch it as you just use google to try and crowbar your losing arguments with inane guff in the hope that nobody notices that your argument has completely fallen apart.

It appears that you and Roc are competing to be this sites biggest user of trite strawman arguments.

Referencing China has nothing to do with admiring communism. It was a country pulled from thin air to highlight the stupidity of your position on immigrants magically becoming Irish, in a way that about 175 of the 195 countries of the world don’t agree with.

Ethnocultural nationalism and a deep respect for ancestry are what almost every country in the world consider when defining who or who isn’t a fellow native.

Countries with the brainwashed civic attitude to immigrants becoming fellow nationals at the drop of a hat are all western countries like the UK, Canada, New Zealand, Ireland…etc.

Strawman shite 👆
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Oh I watched the video. I was just having a giggle at you telling me that there are racists in China as if this was news. What will you tell us next? The Chinese don't usually eat with knives and forks? Gasp!

Anyway since you are misrepresenting my point yet again in a deeply dishonest way, I am going to disengage here, except maybe replying where you are being particularly disingenous.
 
Haven said:
Oh I watched the video. I was just having a giggle at you telling me that there are racists in China as if this was news. What will you tell us next? The Chinese don't usually eat with knives and forks? Gasp!

Anyway since you are misrepresenting my point yet again in a deeply dishonest way, I am going to disengage here, except maybe replying where you are being particularly disingenous.
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You know you can’t waffle your way out of this one. Take your medicine.

Tiger 1 - 0 Tank
 
Tiger said:
You know you can’t waffle your way out of this one. Take your medicine.

Tiger 1 - 0 Tank
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Oh I won this one! I provided all the examples, you provided hot air.

The best 2 attempts you made was a communist country with hygiene issues, and a country known for barbaric WW2 war crimes, that is literally dying out every year.

Whataboutery, yes....but incredibly dumb whataboutery.

Take your beating and lie down for a bit.
 
Haven said:
Oh I won this one! I provided all the examples, you provided hot air.

The best 2 attempts you made was a communist country with hygiene issues, and a country known for barbaric WW2 war crimes, that is literally dying out every year.

Whataboutery, yes....but incredibly dumb whataboutery.

Take your beating and lie down for a bit.
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I think that the only thing you've done here is to proclaim that people with an ethnic identity are "racist". It doesn't matter what country it is (you would say the same thing about an Irish person)
 
Haven said:
Nope.
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Yep.

Perhaps, additionally, you think that you've "proved" that there are White Chinese people by posting a YouTube video.

Haven, it's really you he needs a lie down. You're making a fool of yourself, BIGLY!
 
The Equalizer said:
Yep.

Perhaps, additionally, you think that you've "proved" that there are White Chinese people by posting a YouTube video.

Haven, it's really you he needs a lie down. You're making a fool of yourself, BIGLY!
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Nope!
 
Haven said:
Oh I won this one! I provided all the examples, you provided hot air.

The best 2 attempts you made was a communist country with hygiene issues, and a country known for barbaric WW2 war crimes, that is literally dying out every year.

Whataboutery, yes....but incredibly dumb whataboutery.

Take your beating and lie down for a bit.
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More strawman shite 👆👆

Tank, in answer to the question of whether people from China readily and easily accept immigrants from around the world; whether from Africa, the Middle East, Europe, etc.; as being “Chinese,” you posted a video of people of mixed Russian/Chinese origin from a remote border region near Russia. That was a retarded thing to do.

Firstly, these people are not immigrants. They are long-established residents of a border region in China and are part of the country’s recognised ethnic makeup. China borders Russia. They are Chinese citizens living in Asia, and they are not in a position where they need to be “accepted” as Chinese in the way immigrants from other continents would be. They literally live in their own region.

Secondly, and more importantly, this has nothing to do with how Chinese people in general perceive or recognise immigrants from completely different parts of the world. A small, historically established border minority does not tell us anything about everyday perceptions of unfamiliar foreigners in global contexts. Concluding that it does is retarded and shows a failure to follow what the argument is actually about.

Chinese people do not regard immigrants as being Chinese. End of…

The fact that I have to explain this to you like you’re a child says a lot.
 
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Some amount of spam on this particular thread, all of it totally irrelevant to the actual subject it was supposed to be about.
 
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Tiger said:
More strawman shite 👆👆

7Tank, in answer to the question of whether people from China readily and easily accept immigrants from around the world; whether from Africa, the Middle East, Europe, etc.; as being “Chinese,” you posted a video of people of mixed Russian/Chinese origin from a remote border region near Russia. That was a retarded thing to do.

Firstly, these people are not immigrants. They are long-established residents of a border region in China and are part of the country’s recognised ethnic makeup. China borders Russia. They are Chinese citizens living in Asia, and they are not in a position where they need to be “accepted” as Chinese in the way immigrants from other continents would be. They literally live in their own region.

Secondly, and more importantly, this has nothing to do with how Chinese people in general perceive or recognise immigrants from completely different parts of the world. A small, historically established border minority does not tell us anything about everyday perceptions of unfamiliar foreigners in global contexts. Concluding that it does is retarded and shows a failure to follow what the argument is actually about.

Chinese people do not regard immigrants as being Chinese. End of…

The fact that I have to explain this to you like you’re a child says a lot.
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Thanks for confirming white Chinese do indeed exist, despite your attempts to downplay that fact. James will be raging.

Tiger, the position of mmigrants in China is more complex than you pretend (as I have shown) but - as I have alluded to James - I don't actually give a shit what the Chinese think about this. They are also communists and let their kids shit in public, which leads me to think we shouldnt respect what they think about immigrants either.

Unlike you, I look at a society in whole, and not pick and choose what I want.
 
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Right so every Country I could bring up that doesn't want to be destroyed by 3rd World migrants you'll come up with something bad about them?

Let me tell you something Sir, you could do that about every nation on Earth including the one's that are committing ethnic and cultural mass immigration suicide.
 
Myles O'Reilly said:
Right so every Country I could bring up that doesn't want to be destroyed by 3rd World migrants you'll come up with something bad about them?

Let me tell you something Sir, you could do that about every nation on Earth including the one's that are committing ethnic and cultural mass immigration suicide.
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"Something bad"? Thats like trying to polish a turd.

Myles, if the majority of countries have strict laws on immigration, and thats the argument, then lets set the idea of majority rules for everything.

For example, the vast majority of people in Ireland believes religious orders and the Catholic Church should pay for their past crimes and systematic institutional abuses. Majority rules, so lets end the debate.

The majority of voters, approved abortion. Debate over.

Etc.
 
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Myles O'Reilly said:
Right so every Country I could bring up that doesn't want to be destroyed by 3rd World migrants you'll come up with something bad about them?

Let me tell you something Sir, you could do that about every nation on Earth including the one's that are committing ethnic and cultural mass immigration suicide.
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It is the downgrading of debate writ large, it is what the Web is doing, normalising a much lower level of intellectual involvement, and as a paid shill we can only expect it to be in the vanguard.
 
Haven said:
Thanks for confirming white Chinese do indeed exist, despite your attempts to downplay that fact. James will be raging.
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It seems that a lot of your arguments are of the type - Yeah but, white people commit crime too, and, "hard cases" (which don't actually have any effect on your own absolutist thinking)

Haven said:
Tiger, the position of mmigrants in China is more complex than you pretend (as I have shown) but - as I have alluded to James - I don't actually give a shit what the Chinese think about this. They are also communists and let their kids shit in public, which leads me to think we shouldnt respect what they think about immigrants either.

Unlike you, I look at a society in whole, and not pick and choose what I want.
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Mad as Fish said:
It is the downgrading of debate writ large, it is what the Web is doing, normalising a much lower level of intellectual involvement, and as a paid shill we can only expect it to be in the vanguard.
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Another thing shills are paid to do is simply waste our time. The more time we spend online reading or replying to their nonsense, the less time we have for other things.
 
Haven said:
"Something bad"? Thats like trying to polish a turd.

Myles, if the majority of countries have strict laws on immigration, and thats the argument, then lets set the idea of majority rules for everything.

For example, the vast majority of people in Ireland believes religious orders and the Catholic Church should pay for their past crimes and systematic institutional abuses. Majority rules, so lets end the debate.

The majority of voters, approved abortion. Debate over.

Etc.
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When was the last time we had a referendum on immigration?
 
Diarmuid said:
Was it about twenty years ago when we voted by a big margin to stop giving citizenship to baby Nigerians born here?
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Good point. Or it's the closest we've had to one. The result was a landslide, wasn't it :)
 
Myles O'Reilly said:
I would say the majority of paedo Priests were also rapacious homosexuals.
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It doesn't strike you Myles how highly convenient it was for all these catholic cranks and nutters when the revelations poured out, to subsequently point to "homosexuality" as the cause and thereby protect their allegedly holier than thou institution?

If there's one thing that stands out strongly about all these catholic cranks, it's their notions of cause and effect.

From divine insemination of virgins to "it's all the fault of the Jews", to the world out to get them, etc, etc.

For I think you need to understand that these catholic cranks on this forum (who would appear to have more or less dragged you down to their their level of causal reasoning) hold a certain innate "model" or picture of the world.

Try to conceive what it was in their lives and mental constitution that produced these "causal models" in their minds about how the world worked.

It's not a pretty picture.

Sure, there was an increase of homosexuals choosing to dedicate their lives to the church mostly in the generation of the geriatric catholic cranks you find on here. - But consider that even the church itself in its investigations found that:

"... the huge spike in abuse cases in the '60s and '70s had to do with ill-equipped priests who lost their way in the social cataclysm of the sexual revolution...".

Ring any bells when you listen to the online wittering of these same type of shut-in catholic cranks on here?!

Also consider the series of studies commissioned or written by the National Review Board, the Bishops' Committee for the Protection of Children and Young People, or the Secretariat of Child and Youth Protection found that these priests (and potentially their apologists if we extend the profile to fit observations) :

“... turn to children as a sort of substitute” due to psychological and emotional difficulties in bonding with peers... such individuals – who often exhibit issues with impulse control — can’t develop successful, negotiated, intimate relationships with adults...

"... Since these offenders seek readily available victims, boys have historically — though by no means exclusively — been a target for many clerical abusers..."

“... Priests for the most part had access to boys, and trust with boys, much more so than girls,.. it has been this proximity that has led to the erroneous correlation between homosexuality and clerical abuse..."

Sure, there may have been other factors that draws in homsexuality as a causal factor.

For instance it was noted in other serious investigations of catholic church culture that the very act of giving yourself up to the "paternal" all-knowing unbending authority of the roman catholic church lead to what was described as:

"... a process of homosexualisation and feminisation within the Church".

So the point being, in thinking about cause and effect, what came first, the chicken, or the egg? You see you have all these feedback loops and interactions.
 
Roc. said:
It doesn't strike you Myles how highly convenient it was for all these catholic cranks and nutters when the revelations poured out, to subsequently point to "homosexuality" as the cause and thereby protect their allegedly holier than thou institution?

If there's one thing that stands out strongly about all these catholic cranks, it's their notions of cause and effect.

From divine insemination of virgins to "it's all the fault of the Jews", to the world out to get them, etc, etc.

For I think you need to understand that these catholic cranks on this forum (who would appear to have more or less dragged you down to their their level of causal reasoning) hold a certain innate "model" or picture of the world.

Try to conceive what it was in their lives and mental constitution that produced these "causal models" in their minds about how the world worked.

It's not a pretty picture.

Sure, there was an increase of homosexuals choosing to dedicate their lives to the church mostly in the generation of the geriatric catholic cranks you find on here. - But consider that even the church itself in its investigations found that:

"... the huge spike in abuse cases in the '60s and '70s had to do with ill-equipped priests who lost their way in the social cataclysm of the sexual revolution...".

Ring any bells when you listen to the online wittering of these same type of shut-in catholic cranks on here?!

Also consider the series of studies commissioned or written by the National Review Board, the Bishops' Committee for the Protection of Children and Young People, or the Secretariat of Child and Youth Protection found that these priests (and potentially their apologists if we extend the profile to fit observations) :
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Roc. said:
“... turn to children as a sort of substitute” due to psychological and emotional difficulties in bonding with peers... such individuals – who often exhibit issues with impulse control — can’t develop successful, negotiated, intimate relationships with adults...

"... Since these offenders seek readily available victims, boys have historically — though by no means exclusively — been a target for many clerical abusers..."

“... Priests for the most part had access to boys, and trust with boys, much more so than girls,.. it has been this proximity that has led to the erroneous correlation between homosexuality and clerical abuse..."

Sure, there may have been other factors that draws in homsexuality as a causal factor.

For instance it was noted in other serious investigations of catholic church culture that the very act of giving yourself up to the "paternal" all-knowing unbending authority of the roman catholic church lead to what was described as:

"... a process of homosexualisation and feminisation within the Church".

So the point being, in thinking about cause and effect, what came first, the chicken, or the egg? You see you have all these feedback loops and interactions.
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That really doesn't sound very much like you're saying that homosexuals were "born that way" 🤔
 
Roc. said:
It doesn't strike you Myles how highly convenient it was for all these catholic cranks and nutters when the revelations poured out, to subsequently point to "homosexuality" as the cause and thereby protect their allegedly holier than thou institution?

If there's one thing that stands out strongly about all these catholic cranks, it's their notions of cause and effect.

From divine insemination of virgins to "it's all the fault of the Jews", to the world out to get them, etc, etc.

For I think you need to understand that these catholic cranks on this forum (who would appear to have more or less dragged you down to their their level of causal reasoning) hold a certain innate "model" or picture of the world.

Try to conceive what it was in their lives and mental constitution that produced these "causal models" in their minds about how the world worked.

It's not a pretty picture.

Sure, there was an increase of homosexuals choosing to dedicate their lives to the church mostly in the generation of the geriatric catholic cranks you find on here. - But consider that even the church itself in its investigations found that:

"... the huge spike in abuse cases in the '60s and '70s had to do with ill-equipped priests who lost their way in the social cataclysm of the sexual revolution...".

Ring any bells when you listen to the online wittering of these same type of shut-in catholic cranks on here?!

Also consider the series of studies commissioned or written by the National Review Board, the Bishops' Committee for the Protection of Children and Young People, or the Secretariat of Child and Youth Protection found that these priests (and potentially their apologists if we extend the profile to fit observations) :

“... turn to children as a sort of substitute” due to psychological and emotional difficulties in bonding with peers... such individuals – who often exhibit issues with impulse control — can’t develop successful, negotiated, intimate relationships with adults...

"... Since these offenders seek readily available victims, boys have historically — though by no means exclusively — been a target for many clerical abusers..."

“... Priests for the most part had access to boys, and trust with boys, much more so than girls,.. it has been this proximity that has led to the erroneous correlation between homosexuality and clerical abuse..."

Sure, there may have been other factors that draws in homsexuality as a causal factor.

For instance it was noted in other serious investigations of catholic church culture that the very act of giving yourself up to the "paternal" all-knowing unbending authority of the roman catholic church lead to what was described as:

"... a process of homosexualisation and feminisation within the Church".

So the point being, in thinking about cause and effect, what came first, the chicken, or the egg? You see you have all these feedback loops and interactions.
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Is it possible that you are looking to deflect from the ongoing grooming and targeting of impressionable retards that your community is currently engaged in?



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7lZdaKHAFo
 
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Aldo3 said:
Is it possible that you are looking to deflect from the ongoing grooming and targeting of impressionable retards that your community is currently engaged in?



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7lZdaKHAFo
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He should have asked her ~ ~ if she enjoyed " Some Anal " herself considering what is the books that she is Pushing ! ! !

There is a lot of, Irish Politicians / Irish Institutions = = Pushing Paedophilia. By Proxy.

Pushing Paedophilia By Proxy, should be a Criminal Offence !
 
Myles O'Reilly said:
What does HAP mean on the last guy's shirt? Housing Assistance Payment?
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I think its an M instead H.
MAP
As in Minor Attracted Person. A non stigmatizing way of saying 'nonce'

A Review of Academic Use of the Term “Minor Attracted Persons” - PMC

Although it originated within online pro-pedophile groups, the term “minor attracted person” (MAPs) has been adopted by some academic researchers as a neutral and non-stigmatizing alternative to the term “pedophile.” The transferral of this term ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
Haven said:
Thanks for confirming white Chinese do indeed exist, despite your attempts to downplay that fact. James will be raging.
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The debate was about international immigration and indigenous attitudes to immigrants. It had nothing to do with Russians living on the borders of Russia. That was your lazy strawman. You’re as thick as pigshit.
Haven said:
Tiger, the position of mmigrants in China is more complex than you pretend (as I have shown) but - as I have alluded to James - I don't actually give a shit what the Chinese think about this. They are also communists and let their kids shit in public, which leads me to think we shouldnt respect what they think about immigrants either.
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Here’s the reality Tank.

You think that a Chinaman and indeed anyone from anywhere in the globe can magically transform into being Irish by virtue of residency. This is on the face of it - fucking nonsense.

You may think that Chinese immigrants are Irish, but it doesn’t work the reverse way. They do not consider Irish immigrants to be Chinese.

Also, in addition to China - 97% of countries in the world have the same position on immigrants. They can’t magically change Nationality or ancestry. Irish people can’t magically become Nigerian, Mongolian, French, Croatian…or anything other than remaining Irish.

Only indoctrinated ding dongs in the west think this is logical. The same wally’s who think men can transform into women and have babies and periods. They are mentally retarded.
Haven said:
Unlike you, I look at a society in whole, and not pick and choose what I want.
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You are a brainwashed moron who is at odds with over 95% of humanity.
 
Tiger said:
The debate was about international immigration and indigenous attitudes to immigrants. It had nothing to do with Russians living on the borders of Russia. That was your lazy strawman. You’re as thick as pigshit.

Here’s the reality Tank.

You think that a Chinaman and indeed anyone from anywhere in the globe can magically transform into being Irish by virtue of residency. This is on the face of it - fucking nonsense.

You may think that Chinese immigrants are Irish, but it doesn’t work the reverse way. They do not consider Irish immigrants to be Chinese.

Also, in addition to China - 97% of countries in the world have the same position on immigrants. They can’t magically change Nationality or ancestry. Irish people can’t magically become Nigerian, Mongolian, French, Croatian…or anything other than remaining Irish.

Only indoctrinated ding dongs in the west think this is logical. The same wally’s who think men can transform into women and have babies and periods. They are mentally retarded.

You are a brainwashed moron who is at odds with over 95% of humanity.
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So, majority rules, right?

The vast majority of countries have signed to the Paris agreement on climate change. Debate over.

The vast majority of countries are part of WHO and the global response to Covid. No hoax there.

The vast majority of countries (over 98%) approve of abortion in some form.

Glad we sorted that out.
 
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clarke-connolly said:
He should have asked her ~ ~ if she enjoyed " Some Anal " herself considering what is the books that she is Pushing ! ! !

There is a lot of, Irish Politicians / Irish Institutions = = Pushing Paedophilia. By Proxy.

Pushing Paedophilia By Proxy, should be a Criminal Offence !
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… yer honour.
 
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