The Climate Change scam

[Mad as Fish]

Luton Airport Fire . . . . Looks like the sort of event which is caused by EV but appears to be actually caused by a Diesel car - so the experts are saying or are they perhaps blaming Diesel for EV's faults??

Cause of Luton Airport car park inferno revealed

Airport suspends flights for most of day after car park engulfed in flames

www.independent.co.uk

That story is total bollocks.

Edit: Delving into it a little more the story it may well be true but there is the implication that diesel cars burst into flames as randomly as EVs, which is definitely bollox!

 

[Mad as Fish]

Lads, we gotta start taking this global warming thingie really really seriously -

Global warming could turn many people into drunks and drug users, study claims

Scientists in New York have found a notable correlation between higher temperatures and increased hospital admissions for drug and alcohol use in that state.

studyfinds.org

 

[Mad as Fish]

Once again the subject of just how much energy is used by the internet pops its ahead above the surface with this study undertaken in the Netherlands -

The worst-case scenario suggests Google’s AI alone could consume as much electricity as a country such as Ireland (29.3 TWh per year), which is a significant increase compared to its historical AI-related energy consumption.

https://www.cell.com/joule/fulltext/S2542-4351(23)00365-3

 

[Mad as Fish]

I doubt that they closed a deal -

Moment £190,000 McLaren plug-in hybrid sports car bursts into flames

The McLaren Artura - the supercar manufacturer's first electrified car - was just a mile away from the motor dealership when it went up in flames while being taken out for a spin in Leeds.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Mad as Fish]

GM are getting the message from the consumer that EVs are just not wanted -

GM delays EV truck production at Michigan plant by year

General Motors Co said on Tuesday it will delay production of electric pickup trucks at its plant in Michigan's Orion Township by a year as the No. 1 U.S. automaker grapples with flattening demand for electric vehicle.

www.reuters.com

 

[jpc]

Lads, we gotta start taking this global warming thingie really really seriously -

Global warming could turn many people into drunks and drug users, study claims

Scientists in New York have found a notable correlation between higher temperatures and increased hospital admissions for drug and alcohol use in that state.

studyfinds.org

Tell the Saudi's that please.

 

[jpc]

Lads, we gotta start taking this global warming thingie really really seriously -

Global warming could turn many people into drunks and drug users, study claims

Scientists in New York have found a notable correlation between higher temperatures and increased hospital admissions for drug and alcohol use in that state.

studyfinds.org

https//Studyfinds whatever you want it to. org/global warming bollox[/URL]

 

[valamhic]

Luton Airport Fire . . . . Looks like the sort of event which is caused by EV but appears to be actually caused by a Diesel car - so the experts are saying or are they perhaps blaming Diesel for EV's faults??

Cause of Luton Airport car park inferno revealed

Airport suspends flights for most of day after car park engulfed in flames

www.independent.co.uk

One thing for sure, we will never be told the truth. Same with the Merc at McDonalds Newbridge on August
15th last. The owner must have been bought off.

 

[valamhic]

GM are getting the message from the consumer that EVs are just not wanted -

GM delays EV truck production at Michigan plant by year

General Motors Co said on Tuesday it will delay production of electric pickup trucks at its plant in Michigan's Orion Township by a year as the No. 1 U.S. automaker grapples with flattening demand for electric vehicle.

www.reuters.com

The evangelists answer to fires is to invent Ammonium and sodium based batteries and switch to that. What would that do the the value of a year old lithium e/v.

 

[valamhic]

Ah ~ Ze Germans.

The Irish would have voted en-mass for Hitler if they had got a chance

 

[Mad as Fish]

https//Studyfinds whatever you want it to. org/global warming bollox[/URL]

Climate change is indeed a total bollux and, thankfully, there is a change in the air, a lot of people have stopped blindly believing in it. It hasn't reached public outrage levels yet and I am not sure that it ever will, a quite exit of the stage will see that there is no focal point around which anger can crystalize.

This is happening at ground level already. My partner went looking for a new car and EVs were not mentioned once by the garages, and even the fact that one model she was interested in was a hybrid was played down and almost apologized for.

Further up the structure manufacturers are still beating the EV drum, but they have foolishly invested billions so have to keep the pretence going for a while longer yet.

 

[Mad as Fish]

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The evangelists answer to fires is to invent Ammonium and sodium based batteries and switch to that. What would that do the the value of a year old lithium e/v.

And the energy density of those are? It's all about how much energy can be packed into a box, and nothing comes close to carbon based fuels.

But yes, I would agree that buying an EV is perhaps the worst investment one could make.

 

[valamhic]

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And the energy density of those are? It's all about how much energy can be packed into a box, and nothing comes close to carbon based fuels.

But yes, I would agree that buying an EV is perhaps the worst investment one could make.

I was referring to the fact that nothing can stop green zealots in the short term because they refuse to comply with the SEA Directive to assess their mad schemes. In the long term reality should stop them. They do not give up spending taxpayers money. Ryan said in the Dail he was experimenting. That is what the Directive was meant to prevent. When backed into a corner they will suggest some other mad alternative which will leave the previous model obsolete. Like a Lanz tractor or a steam train.

 

[Anderson]

How soon before the Green Lobby jumps on the Cork floods and uses Climate change as the reason?

 

[Professor]

One thing for sure, we will never be told the truth. Same with the Merc at McDonalds Newbridge on August
15th last. The owner must have been bought off.

Yeah but, we can discover the truth by way of practical experiment!

Let's consider it a scrapheap challenge of sorts? Different scenario's can be rigged and tweaked to replicate the live car park / ship transport environments.
We can have one where a large diesel car can be made to go on fire when parked next to two EV's and the results recorded . . .
It'd be a difficult job to get a Diesel car to self combust in the way the news suggests actually happened, anyway if it did then it probably had an EV next to it and that caused the inferno.

 

[jpc]

I was referring to the fact that nothing can stop green zealots in the short term because they refuse to comply with the SEA Directive to assess their mad schemes. In the long term reality should stop them. They do not give up spending taxpayers money. Ryan said in the Dail he was experimenting. That is what the Directive was meant to prevent. When backed into a corner they will suggest some other mad alternative which will leave the previous model obsolete. Like a Lanz tractor or a steam train.

The free money spigot is turned off.
That's going to bring reality into vogue again.

 

[Mad as Fish]

I was referring to the fact that nothing can stop green zealots in the short term because they refuse to comply with the SEA Directive to assess their mad schemes. In the long term reality should stop them. They do not give up spending taxpayers money. Ryan said in the Dail he was experimenting. That is what the Directive was meant to prevent. When backed into a corner they will suggest some other mad alternative which will leave the previous model obsolete. Like a Lanz tractor or a steam train.

Agreed, but I feel even that zealotry might be losing its impact -

The headlong rush to net zero carbon emissions by 2050, pursued for so long by democratic governments across the globe regardless of cost, has finally hit the buffers of voter resistance.

Andrew Neil: Everywhere, there’s a growing public revolt against net zero, forcing politicians across Europe to renege on green virtue signalling

By Paul Homewood Welcome to the real world, Andrew Neil. It’s just a pity you were not writing this years ago: The headlong rush to net zero carbon emissions by 2050, pursued f…

notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com

It's an interesting read.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Yeah but, we can discover the truth by way of practical experiment!

Let's consider it a scrapheap challenge of sorts? Different scenario's can be rigged and tweaked to replicate the live car park / ship transport environments.
We can have one where a large diesel car can be made to go on fire when parked next to two EV's and the results recorded . . .
It'd be a difficult job to get a Diesel car to self combust in the way the news suggests actually happened, anyway if it did then it probably had an EV next to it and that caused the inferno.

Cars of all types tend to self combust because of electrical faults causing shorts etc, and EVs are nothing but switches and batteries and motors and wiring.....

 

[Professor]

Cars of all types tend to self combust because of electrical faults causing shorts etc, and EVs are nothing but switches and batteries and motors and wiring.....

Yeah but, we've not known such a fire as Luton occurring in a car park full of diesels & petrol vehicles?

 

[Mad as Fish]

Yeah but, we've not known such a fire as Luton occurring in a car park full of diesels & petrol vehicles?

Well yes, but we have to be careful to distinguish between the cause and the effect. It is reported that a Range Rover had flames billowing out of its underside as it drove around the car park, and that was the cause. Normally such a fire would be easily and quickly dealt with if it was a petrol/diesel car.

As yet there is no Electric Range Rover available (although there might well be prototypes running around) so we have to assume it was a petrol/diesel car that was on fire. This is not unknown, the Opel Zafira had a well documented habit of catching fire because of an inherent electrical fault under the dash.

If there were EVs nearby the burning vehicle and they caught alight then we are in a whole different ball game. Li-ion batteries will go into thermal runaway when heated and then there is the much more difficult problem of putting them out, and all you can do is cool them in the hope that it stops. These fires are not oxygen dependent, it is an internal chemical reaction.

So we are presented with two dangers, an EV catching alight because of a battery fault and an EV(s) contributing to a conflagration which cannot be dealt with by established methods. The presence of EVs in a car park will therefore contribute greatly to the damage and destruction even if they were not the initial cause, and that is a point that hitherto has not been mentioned in the MSM.

 

[Professor]

If there were EVs nearby the burning vehicle and they caught alight then we are in a whole different ball game.

We can safely assume that's what happened - Diesel car bursts into flames ignites other cars including EV's!

From now on EV's need their own outdoor parking spaces safely away from all other sources of combustion?

 

[Mad as Fish]

We can safely assume that's what happened - Diesel car bursts into flames ignites other cars including EV's!

From now on EV's need their own outdoor parking spaces safely away from all other sources of combustion?

I would guess so, and there own space on deck, on a ferry.

Interesting to note that one Norwegian ferry company banned EVs back in January, and Norway has the highest proportion of EVs in Europe, basically because they can afford them.

https://www.ctif.org/news/norwegian-shipping-company-bans-electric-cars-board-classic-ferry-route

 

[clarke-connolly]

We can safely assume that's what happened - Diesel car bursts into flames ignites other cars including EV's!

From now on EV's need their own outdoor parking spaces safely away from all other sources of combustion?

A Prison for Electric Cars and their Owners.

 

[Professor]

A Prison for Electric Cars and their Owners.

Actually some of them are going to get the Electric Chair as a consequence.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Here we go, the message seems to be filtering through at last -

Access Restricted

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

My partner went looking for a new car.

Just wondering, are you a homosexual Sir?

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Mr Bean agrees with you Fish

‘Mr. Bean’ actor creates controversy with confounding newspaper column: ‘It’s starting to become a pattern’

"This erroneous article ... dupes the readers of The Guardian and that's starting to become a pattern."

uk.yahoo.com

 

[Professor]

How soon before the Green Lobby jumps on the Cork floods and uses Climate change as the reason?

But it certainly is climate change, do you think it's something else, what would that be?
P.s. I'm not Green.

 

[Professor]

Just wondering, are you a homosexual Sir?

There's just no stopping, mr wondering


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qG6Qt2Dmm2g

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Well he said his "partner" not his girlfriend or his missus. And no-one would let a woman go look at a car on her own.

I've no complaint though. His sexuality is his business

 

[Mad as Fish]

Well he said his "partner" not his girlfriend or his missus. And no-one would let a woman go look at a car on her own.

I've no complaint though. His sexuality is his business

She would be awfully disappointed if I was.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Phew. I'm glad to hear that Sir!

 

[valamhic]

Agreed, but I feel even that zealotry might be losing its impact -

The headlong rush to net zero carbon emissions by 2050, pursued for so long by democratic governments across the globe regardless of cost, has finally hit the buffers of voter resistance.

Andrew Neil: Everywhere, there’s a growing public revolt against net zero, forcing politicians across Europe to renege on green virtue signalling

By Paul Homewood Welcome to the real world, Andrew Neil. It’s just a pity you were not writing this years ago: The headlong rush to net zero carbon emissions by 2050, pursued f…

notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com

It's an interesting read.

I do feel I am witnessing a public revolt OK. I have helped bring that time forward a little in Ireland.
As I feel I am winning, I might begin to exaggerate the problems. Tell a little lie here and there.

 

[valamhic]

But it certainly is climate change, do you think it's something else, what would that be?
P.s. I'm not Green.

I remember as a boy going over to Dowra cattle fair in west Cavan to help a cattle jobber. It was
the end of August and a flood had just swept away the cocks of hay stored in the fields adjoining the river Shannon.
It was all the talk and never seen before.

 

[valamhic]

A Prison for Electric Cars and their Owners.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEDZmrzII14

 

[Professor]

I remember as a boy going over to Dowra cattle fair in west Cavan to help a cattle jobber. It was
the end of August and a flood had just swept away the cocks of hay stored in the fields adjoining the river Shannon.
It was all the talk and never seen before.

Yeah but . . .

Galway deals with the aftermath after 'unprecedented' floods hit the city

Locals have been critical of the council’s response yesterday.

www.thejournal.ie

Storm Lorenzo leaves floods, fallen trees and power cuts in its wake

Substantial flooding hit parts of the country and thousands of people were left without power in the aftermath of Storm Lorenzo.

www.independent.ie

Cork city suffers its worst flooding in over six years

CORK city has suffered its worst flooding for over six years as drains and water defences were overwhelmed by the combination of a storm surge, high tides, gusting winds and torrential rainfall during a 24 hour period.

www.independent.ie

Storm Barra live: Storm ‘only halfway through’ as disruption continues

Storm Barra updates…

westernpeople.ie

Chaos In Cork As heavy Rain Causes Widespread Flooding

Described as a 'perfect storm', heavy rain caused widespread spot flooding across Cork city centre and suburbs on Sunday evening.

extra.ie

Cork City Council issues second flood warning

Cork City Council has issued a flood warning for the city centre - its second in less than 24 hours.

www.rte.ie

Live Travel as huge Storm Babet clean-up operation continues across Cork

www.corkbeo.ie

Those Links run from 2018 to 2023 at present, and look at the last one there, There's yet more flooding expected! - That is significantly suggestive of "Climate Change" = Weather Change.
Surely you've experienced other changes since Dowra?

 

[Mad as Fish]

Yeah but . . .

Galway deals with the aftermath after 'unprecedented' floods hit the city

Locals have been critical of the council’s response yesterday.

www.thejournal.ie

Storm Lorenzo leaves floods, fallen trees and power cuts in its wake

Substantial flooding hit parts of the country and thousands of people were left without power in the aftermath of Storm Lorenzo.

www.independent.ie

Cork city suffers its worst flooding in over six years

CORK city has suffered its worst flooding for over six years as drains and water defences were overwhelmed by the combination of a storm surge, high tides, gusting winds and torrential rainfall during a 24 hour period.

www.independent.ie

Storm Barra live: Storm ‘only halfway through’ as disruption continues

Storm Barra updates…

westernpeople.ie

Chaos In Cork As heavy Rain Causes Widespread Flooding

Described as a 'perfect storm', heavy rain caused widespread spot flooding across Cork city centre and suburbs on Sunday evening.

extra.ie

Cork City Council issues second flood warning

Cork City Council has issued a flood warning for the city centre - its second in less than 24 hours.

www.rte.ie

Live Travel as huge Storm Babet clean-up operation continues across Cork

www.corkbeo.ie

Those Links run from 2018 to 2023 at present, and look at the last one there, There's yet more flooding expected! - That is significantly suggestive of "Climate Change" = Weather Change.
Surely you've experienced other changes since Dowra?

The climate changes naturally, we only hear about these weather events because communication is so much better and the capability to broadcast them is so much greater. Are they worse or more frequent than before? Probably not.

 

[Professor]

The climate changes naturally, we only hear about these weather events because communication is so much better and the capability to broadcast them is so much greater. Are they worse or more frequent than before? Probably not.

Your above opinion above has little or no basis with the recorded facts, record breaking events all over be it drought or floods and flooding has increased according to the links which correspond with reports that Ireland had a record breaking July August for rain this year.

You certainly cannot "Thank God for the Weather" And I'd like you to try and explain what is so natural about 'greening the desert' & 'weather wars'

Communications is so much better - How so?

P.S. Wake Up Madser, Where do you get it from??

 

[PlunkettsGhost]

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[Mad as Fish]

Your above opinion above has little or no basis with the recorded facts, record breaking events all over be it drought or floods and flooding has increased according to the links which correspond with reports that Ireland had a record breaking July August for rain this year.

You certainly cannot "Thank God for the Weather" And I'd like you to try and explain what is so natural about 'greening the desert' & 'weather wars'

Communications is so much better - How so?

P.S. Wake Up Madser, Where do you get it from??

Record breaking since when? Life on earth started creating the atmosphere around 3.5 billion years ago. The thermometer was only invented around 200 years ago!

Do you honestly think the Romans or stone age man didn't experience extreme weather events?

As I said, the climate changes naturally, and the whole damn climate scam is based on the idea that it is only mankind that has any influence on it.