"Tommy Robinson" arrested at "March Against Antisemitism" Rally.

[The Equalizer]

And just for shits and giggles..

Every time @Roc. opens his big, fat, stupid mouth about anything to do with science he invariably makes a fool of himself. Bear that in mind

 

[Roc.]

Except I never ever mentioned "human consciousness" or specified the observer at all.

You had to especially add in that to "win" your little point, didn't you.

I did not specify it because I am familiar with the particular experiment you are referring to and its results.

I additionally did not specify it because what I had in mind was the phenomenon in quantum mechanics where you can have two quantum particles separated by vast distances, and the act of "observing" the properties of one particle instantly correlates to the state of the other.

It acts as though the two particles are two ends of the exact same thing rather than communicating across space.

So the observer "figures strongly" because any act of observation requires interacting with and becoming entangled with what is being measured. I.e., observation and entanglement are deeply connected.

“We are made of the same stardust of which all things are made, and when we are immersed in suffering or when we are experiencing intense joy we are being nothing other than what we can’t help but be: a part of our world.” ― Carlo Rovelli, Seven Brief Lessons on Physics

 

[The Equalizer]

Except I never ever mentioned "human consciousness" or specified the observer at all.

You had to especially add in that to "win" your little point, didn't you.

I did not specify it because I am familiar with the particular experiment you are referring to and its results.

I additionally did not specify it because what I had in mind was the phenomenon in quantum mechanics where you can have two quantum particles separated by vast distances, and the act of "observing" the properties of one particle instantly correlates to the state of the other.

It acts as though the two particles are two ends of the exact same thing rather than communicating across space.

So the observer "figures strongly" because any act of observation requires interacting with and becoming entangled with what is being measured. I.e., observation and entanglement are deeply connected.

“We are made of the same stardust of which all things are made, and when we are immersed in suffering or when we are experiencing intense joy we are being nothing other than what we can’t help but be: a part of our world.” ― Carlo Rovelli, Seven Brief Lessons on Physics

Who is the observer?

 

[Roc.]

[Who] is the observer?

Jambo, you're a moron, but just this once.

Try to understand that my reference point is not your slit experiment.

If you actually wanted to understand my reference point well you might try and read A.N Whitehead's "process philosophy" (that is a foundational metaphysical framework for understanding quantum physics.)

In that framework "the observer" is not seen as a separate human consciousness measuring lifeless matter. Rather the framework sets out how the universe is made of active, interwoven events ("actual occasions") that are inherently relational and experiential.

Vis, reality is not built of static particles, but of momentary "events" that come into being, integrate the potential of the past, and "perish" to provide possibilities for the future.

So this framework mirrors quantum mechanics, where physical entities act like waves of potential until an interaction ("event") actualises a specific state.

So "the observer" is in effect a "principle of determination" - The observer in this framework is not necessarily a human subject, but rather the principle of determination that collapses a wave of possibilities into an actual, measurable event.

 

[The Equalizer]

Jambo, you're a moron, but just this once.

Try to understand that my reference point is not your slit experiment.

If you actually wanted to understand my reference point well you might try and read A.N Whitehead's "process philosophy" (that is a foundational metaphysical framework for understanding quantum physics.)

In that framework "the observer" is not seen as a separate human consciousness measuring lifeless matter. Rather the framework sets out how the universe is made of active, interwoven events ("actual occasions") that are inherently relational and experiential.

Vis, reality is not built of static particles, but of momentary "events" that come into being, integrate the potential of the past, and "perish" to provide possibilities for the future.

So this framework mirrors quantum mechanics, where physical entities act like waves of potential until an interaction ("event") actualises a specific state.

So "the observer" is in effect a "principle of determination" - The observer in this framework is not necessarily a human subject, but rather the principle of determination that collapses a wave of possibilities into an actual, measurable event.

lol There isn't a the observer, there is an observation