Ukraine.

Factual.

EU won’t succeed where Hitler and Napoleon failed – Italian deputy PM​

Western sanctions have backfired, instead worsening the bloc’s own economic crisis, Matteo Salvini has said
EU won’t succeed where Hitler and Napoleon failed – Italian deputy PM

Italian Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini. © Simona Granati - Corbis/Corbis via Getty Images

The European Union will not succeed in bringing Russia “to its knees” where Adolf Hitler and Napoleon failed, Italian Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini has said, arguing that sanctions meant to weaken Moscow have instead backfired on Western economies.
Western governments have imposed sweeping sanctions since the escalation of the Ukraine conflict in 2022, aiming to cripple Russia’s economy.

In an interview with the Rete 4 broadcaster on Monday, Salvini argued that EU policy aimed at hitting Russia’s economy had instead worsened the bloc’s economic crisis and driven up energy prices.

“They have put the Western economies and the light bulbs of the Italian families on their knees,” he said.

Moscow has condemned the sanctions as illegal, arguing they have inflated EU energy prices and forced reliance on costlier imports, undermining the bloc’s competitiveness. Some European officials have conceded that the EU’s sanctions on Russia have inflicted greater damage on European businesses than on their Russian counterparts, industry leaders say.
Salvini said attempts to “bring Moscow to its knees” had also been made in the past, citing Adolf Hitler and Napoleon, but neither achieved that goal.

“Because if Hitler and Napoleon failed with their campaigns to bring Moscow to its knees, it will hardly be possible for [EU foreign policy chief] Kaja Kallas and [French President Emmanuel] Macron, with [UK Prime Minister Keir] Starmer and [German Chancellor Friedrich] Merz, to do it,” Salvini said.
Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova welcomed Salvini’s remarks, saying: “The comparison is precise, the conclusion indisputable.”

Salvini also urged caution amid Western Europe’s growing militarization over an alleged threat from Moscow, saying Europe’s main security risks lie not on its eastern flank but to the south, driven by illegal immigration.

Russian officials have insisted that Moscow harbors no hostile intent toward any EU or NATO country, while accusing NATO of issuing coordinated talking points to push an anti-Russian narrative.

Moscow has argued that claims of an impending Russian attack are being used by Western European leaders to justify higher military spending, expanded mobilization initiatives and tighter security measures, and to undermine US-coordinated efforts to reach a peaceful resolution of the Ukraine conflict.
 
According to reports, the globalist bloc in Europe is threatening to sell-off $2.34 trillion in US Treasury holdings if Trump withdraws support for Ukraine—an action that some analysts claim could trigger a downturn more severe than the 2008 crash.

Rather than welcoming diplomacy, EU officials are allegedly weighing economic retaliation if Trump dares to end the war on his own terms. Sources say some governments have floated the idea of dumping portions of their massive holdings of U.S. debt as a form of pressure.

 
The trouble with getting America to go to war with the EU is that it is of European descent, including a good number of Germans. They didn't rush to help out last century and I can't see them doing anything too rash now. Anyway, it all depends on what suits the small hatted ones at the end of the day.
 
The Russian heist didn't go ahead as planned but there was always a plan B it now appears, so why the desperation to get plan A across the line?

Here is her majesty's statement on the matter.

 
Intresting read on the realities of the UK.

At this stage there are probably more civil servants in the MoD holding inquiries than there are soldiers on the ground.
 
At this stage there are probably more civil servants in the MoD holding inquiries than there are soldiers on the ground.
Nobody wants to fight for the British Elites now !

The British Elites and their Non-White DEI's will have to do the fighting now = = You'd need to be mighty lucky to win anything with that lot, or even get any of them to do any of the fighting ! ! !
 
And still Zitler and his Fourth Reich puppetmasters in Brussels won't negotiate in any serious way.:rolleyes:

 
As I said numerous times, all the sanctions were designed to impoverish the vast majority of EU citizens, and it's going to plan.
Russia has moved on.

From collapse fears to resilience: How Russia reshaped its economy by the end of 2025​

A deep dive into how state influence, Asian trade, and domestic production are reshaping the Russian economy
From collapse fears to resilience: How Russia reshaped its economy by the end of 2025


In 2025, the Russian economy looks very different from the one analysts feared would crumble in 2022. State-owned giants are booming, trade is shifting decisively eastward, and domestic industries are rapidly substituting imports. Over the past three years, GDP growth has consistently outpaced the global average, unemployment has fallen to historic lows, and the groundwork for a fundamentally reshaped economic model has been laid. The economy has reinvented itself under pressure, revealing a resilience that few outside Russia anticipated.


From collapse fears to unexpected resilience​

Back in early 2022, the outlook seemed bleak. Many foreign observers – and even some domestic experts – predicted a sharp contraction, if not a full-scale economic collapse. Yet the reality has been strikingly different. By 2025, Russia had navigated a series of external shocks and domestic shifts, emerging with a stable economy and a transformed structure that sets the stage for future growth. This unexpected resilience highlights both the internal resources and systemic flexibility that have allowed Russia to withstand pressures few imagined it could endure.
Maxim Oreshkin, Deputy Chief of Staff of the Presidential Executive Office, noted this summer that the Russian economy was showing consistent growth despite sanctions, and that it outpaced global development rates. “Russia’s GDP has been growing at over 4% annually for four years—this is above the global average. Unemployment is at a historic low of just 2.2%, compared to over 5% a few years ago,” Oreshkin said.


Turning East: Russia’s new trade frontier​

Sanctions have also accelerated the Asianization of the Russian economy – a development that has caught many experts off guard. The adaptation period that began in 2022 is expected to conclude by the end of 2025 or early 2026, resulting in a redefined economic landscape characterized by a shift in foreign trade relationships, primarily towards China and countries in Asia, the Middle East, and Africa.
This restructuring of trade ties has opened up access to new markets and partnerships. China remains Russia’s largest trading partner, importing oil products, coal, and grain from Russia while supplying electronics, machinery, and digital technologies.
India has emerged as another key trading partner; since 2022, trade volumes with India have surged more than sixfold, and Russia has become India’s fourth-largest trade partner with a turnover of $70 billion. Russia is a reliable supplier for India’s energy sector, providing over a third of its oil imports.
Russia is also actively expanding trade with Central Asian countries, with mutual trade volumes exceeding $45 billion by the end of 2024.
Notably, the share of transactions conducted in rubles amounted to 48% of all import operations and 82% of total foreign economic activity.

Making it at home: Russia’s drive for self-reliance​

In over three years of robust import substitution policies, Russia has significantly transformed its external trade structure and domestic production capabilities. According to the Delovoy Profil analytical center, since 2021, import volumes have decreased by about 22%, dropping from $315 billion to $247 billion in 2024. This downward trend continued into early 2025 but at a more moderate pace, with a 2.9% decline in the first four months.
The most pronounced reductions were seen in machinery and equipment imports, which fell by 12% in 2024 and an additional 3.6% in the first quarter of 2025.

The Bank of Russia estimates that the economy has already adjusted to most of the drastic external changes.
In 2025, the federal budget allocated more than 850 billion rubles for import substitution programs. Support mechanisms include subsidies for localization, tax incentives, and simplified procedures for parallel imports, which are gradually decreasing in volume. Experts estimate that full import substitution in key industries could be achieved between 2027 and 2031.


The ruble on the rise: strength or risk?​

Since the beginning of 2025, the Russian ruble has strengthened 45% against the US dollar, according to Bloomberg. The news agency notes that the ruble is now among the top five best-performing global assets after platinum, silver, palladium, and gold. This is the strongest appreciation of the ruble since at least 1994.

Bloomberg attributed this surge primarily to a sharp decline in demand for foreign currency in Russia amid ongoing sanctions. Additional support came from foreign currency sales and the Central Bank of Russia’s strict monetary policy: a high key interest rate has made ruble assets more appealing for residents.
Restrictions on currency transactions – imposed both by regulators and as a result of sanctions – have drastically reduced external demand for foreign currency.
For Russia's central bank, the strengthening of the ruble is beneficial in combating inflation. However, economists from Moscow’s Stolypin Institute of Growth warn that this trend may pose risks. In the report cited by Bloomberg, the researchers noted that an “overvalued ruble” could undermine competitiveness and diminish the country’s investment appeal.

Workers wanted: the tightening job market​

As of October 2025, the Russian labor market found itself in a paradoxical situation. The unemployment rate stabilized around 2.3%, marking a historical low in recent years.
However, the labor supply is nearly exhausted. By the end of 2024, the employed population reached approximately 74.6 million, an increase of 2.3 million compared to three years prior. This indicates that there are virtually no available workers left in the economy. Companies nationwide are grappling with a severe personnel shortage, and there is a structural deficit of skilled labor.
As the year draws to a close, Russia’s overheated labor market is gradually cooling. Companies are adopting a more cautious approach to hiring, with active job postings dropping to around 1.1 million, a 26% decline compared to the previous year. This trend appears to be consistent; in May 2025, employers posted 25% fewer job vacancies than they did in May 2024.
This shift marks a significant change in the landscape: the days when businesses fiercely competed for every available worker, and specialists could easily switch jobs for better offers, seem to be coming to an end.

Looking ahead: challenges and opportunities​

Russia continues to face serious structural challenges, ranging from narrowing the technological gap in several sectors to addressing critical demographic and social issues.
Despite sanctions, in 2023-2025 the influx of foreign companies into the Russian market has not stopped. European businesses have not disappeared entirely; new companies are still entering the market, albeit primarily through intermediaries or third countries.
A significant portion of new foreign investment is coming from China; the number of Chinese companies registered in Russia has grown by 1.5-2 times annually since 2022.
Additionally, new clusters of technological growth have emerged, notably in areas such as drones, robotics, IT, and cybersecurity. Fast-growing companies with strong competitive potential, including opportunities for expansion into international markets, are emerging in these sectors.

 
As I said numerous times, all the sanctions were designed to impoverish the vast majority of EU citizens, and it's going to plan.
Russia has moved on.

From collapse fears to resilience: How Russia reshaped its economy by the end of 2025​

A deep dive into how state influence, Asian trade, and domestic production are reshaping the Russian economy
From collapse fears to resilience: How Russia reshaped its economy by the end of 2025


In 2025, the Russian economy looks very different from the one analysts feared would crumble in 2022. State-owned giants are booming, trade is shifting decisively eastward, and domestic industries are rapidly substituting imports. Over the past three years, GDP growth has consistently outpaced the global average, unemployment has fallen to historic lows, and the groundwork for a fundamentally reshaped economic model has been laid. The economy has reinvented itself under pressure, revealing a resilience that few outside Russia anticipated.


From collapse fears to unexpected resilience​

Back in early 2022, the outlook seemed bleak. Many foreign observers – and even some domestic experts – predicted a sharp contraction, if not a full-scale economic collapse. Yet the reality has been strikingly different. By 2025, Russia had navigated a series of external shocks and domestic shifts, emerging with a stable economy and a transformed structure that sets the stage for future growth. This unexpected resilience highlights both the internal resources and systemic flexibility that have allowed Russia to withstand pressures few imagined it could endure.
Maxim Oreshkin, Deputy Chief of Staff of the Presidential Executive Office, noted this summer that the Russian economy was showing consistent growth despite sanctions, and that it outpaced global development rates. “Russia’s GDP has been growing at over 4% annually for four years—this is above the global average. Unemployment is at a historic low of just 2.2%, compared to over 5% a few years ago,” Oreshkin said.


Turning East: Russia’s new trade frontier​

Sanctions have also accelerated the Asianization of the Russian economy – a development that has caught many experts off guard. The adaptation period that began in 2022 is expected to conclude by the end of 2025 or early 2026, resulting in a redefined economic landscape characterized by a shift in foreign trade relationships, primarily towards China and countries in Asia, the Middle East, and Africa.
This restructuring of trade ties has opened up access to new markets and partnerships. China remains Russia’s largest trading partner, importing oil products, coal, and grain from Russia while supplying electronics, machinery, and digital technologies.
India has emerged as another key trading partner; since 2022, trade volumes with India have surged more than sixfold, and Russia has become India’s fourth-largest trade partner with a turnover of $70 billion. Russia is a reliable supplier for India’s energy sector, providing over a third of its oil imports.
Russia is also actively expanding trade with Central Asian countries, with mutual trade volumes exceeding $45 billion by the end of 2024.
Notably, the share of transactions conducted in rubles amounted to 48% of all import operations and 82% of total foreign economic activity.

Making it at home: Russia’s drive for self-reliance​

In over three years of robust import substitution policies, Russia has significantly transformed its external trade structure and domestic production capabilities. According to the Delovoy Profil analytical center, since 2021, import volumes have decreased by about 22%, dropping from $315 billion to $247 billion in 2024. This downward trend continued into early 2025 but at a more moderate pace, with a 2.9% decline in the first four months.
The most pronounced reductions were seen in machinery and equipment imports, which fell by 12% in 2024 and an additional 3.6% in the first quarter of 2025.

The Bank of Russia estimates that the economy has already adjusted to most of the drastic external changes.
In 2025, the federal budget allocated more than 850 billion rubles for import substitution programs. Support mechanisms include subsidies for localization, tax incentives, and simplified procedures for parallel imports, which are gradually decreasing in volume. Experts estimate that full import substitution in key industries could be achieved between 2027 and 2031.


The ruble on the rise: strength or risk?​

Since the beginning of 2025, the Russian ruble has strengthened 45% against the US dollar, according to Bloomberg. The news agency notes that the ruble is now among the top five best-performing global assets after platinum, silver, palladium, and gold. This is the strongest appreciation of the ruble since at least 1994.

Bloomberg attributed this surge primarily to a sharp decline in demand for foreign currency in Russia amid ongoing sanctions. Additional support came from foreign currency sales and the Central Bank of Russia’s strict monetary policy: a high key interest rate has made ruble assets more appealing for residents.
Restrictions on currency transactions – imposed both by regulators and as a result of sanctions – have drastically reduced external demand for foreign currency.
For Russia's central bank, the strengthening of the ruble is beneficial in combating inflation. However, economists from Moscow’s Stolypin Institute of Growth warn that this trend may pose risks. In the report cited by Bloomberg, the researchers noted that an “overvalued ruble” could undermine competitiveness and diminish the country’s investment appeal.

Workers wanted: the tightening job market​

As of October 2025, the Russian labor market found itself in a paradoxical situation. The unemployment rate stabilized around 2.3%, marking a historical low in recent years.
However, the labor supply is nearly exhausted. By the end of 2024, the employed population reached approximately 74.6 million, an increase of 2.3 million compared to three years prior. This indicates that there are virtually no available workers left in the economy. Companies nationwide are grappling with a severe personnel shortage, and there is a structural deficit of skilled labor.
As the year draws to a close, Russia’s overheated labor market is gradually cooling. Companies are adopting a more cautious approach to hiring, with active job postings dropping to around 1.1 million, a 26% decline compared to the previous year. This trend appears to be consistent; in May 2025, employers posted 25% fewer job vacancies than they did in May 2024.
This shift marks a significant change in the landscape: the days when businesses fiercely competed for every available worker, and specialists could easily switch jobs for
There are many EU companies that invested heavily in Russia and have had to write the money off, particularly German ones, but they don't complain publicly, just shrug their shoulders and take the attitude of 'My country right or wrong.' It is a fatalistic approach that will do them no good - again.

A couple of years back I was shown a farm inplement that was destined for Russia, the manufacturer had been obliged to remove all the grease nipples because the export of them was banned, even though the machine itself was not. It struck me as incredibly petty, and it is, and totally counter productive for Russia will just gear up its grease nipple production facilities, which shouldn't take much longer than five minutes or so, and it will have that capacity going forward.
 
There are many EU companies that invested heavily in Russia and have had to write the money off, particularly German ones, but they don't complain publicly, just shrug their shoulders and take the attitude of 'My country right or wrong.' It is a fatalistic approach that will do them no good - again.

A couple of years back I was shown a farm inplement that was destined for Russia, the manufacturer had been obliged to remove all the grease nipples because the export of them was banned, even though the machine itself was not. It struck me as incredibly petty, and it is, and totally counter productive for Russia will just gear up its grease nipple production facilities, which shouldn't take much longer than five minutes or so, and it will have that capacity going forward.
Nipples = = Definitely a squeeze too far there ! !
 
As I said numerous times, all the sanctions were designed to impoverish the vast majority of EU citizens, and it's going to plan.
Russia has moved on.

From collapse fears to resilience: How Russia reshaped its economy by the end of 2025​

A deep dive into how state influence, Asian trade, and domestic production are reshaping the Russian economy
From collapse fears to resilience: How Russia reshaped its economy by the end of 2025


In 2025, the Russian economy looks very different from the one analysts feared would crumble in 2022. State-owned giants are booming, trade is shifting decisively eastward, and domestic industries are rapidly substituting imports. Over the past three years, GDP growth has consistently outpaced the global average, unemployment has fallen to historic lows, and the groundwork for a fundamentally reshaped economic model has been laid. The economy has reinvented itself under pressure, revealing a resilience that few outside Russia anticipated.


From collapse fears to unexpected resilience​

Back in early 2022, the outlook seemed bleak. Many foreign observers – and even some domestic experts – predicted a sharp contraction, if not a full-scale economic collapse. Yet the reality has been strikingly different. By 2025, Russia had navigated a series of external shocks and domestic shifts, emerging with a stable economy and a transformed structure that sets the stage for future growth. This unexpected resilience highlights both the internal resources and systemic flexibility that have allowed Russia to withstand pressures few imagined it could endure.
Maxim Oreshkin, Deputy Chief of Staff of the Presidential Executive Office, noted this summer that the Russian economy was showing consistent growth despite sanctions, and that it outpaced global development rates. “Russia’s GDP has been growing at over 4% annually for four years—this is above the global average. Unemployment is at a historic low of just 2.2%, compared to over 5% a few years ago,” Oreshkin said.


Turning East: Russia’s new trade frontier​

Sanctions have also accelerated the Asianization of the Russian economy – a development that has caught many experts off guard. The adaptation period that began in 2022 is expected to conclude by the end of 2025 or early 2026, resulting in a redefined economic landscape characterized by a shift in foreign trade relationships, primarily towards China and countries in Asia, the Middle East, and Africa.
This restructuring of trade ties has opened up access to new markets and partnerships. China remains Russia’s largest trading partner, importing oil products, coal, and grain from Russia while supplying electronics, machinery, and digital technologies.
India has emerged as another key trading partner; since 2022, trade volumes with India have surged more than sixfold, and Russia has become India’s fourth-largest trade partner with a turnover of $70 billion. Russia is a reliable supplier for India’s energy sector, providing over a third of its oil imports.
Russia is also actively expanding trade with Central Asian countries, with mutual trade volumes exceeding $45 billion by the end of 2024.
Notably, the share of transactions conducted in rubles amounted to 48% of all import operations and 82% of total foreign economic activity.

Making it at home: Russia’s drive for self-reliance​

In over three years of robust import substitution policies, Russia has significantly transformed its external trade structure and domestic production capabilities. According to the Delovoy Profil analytical center, since 2021, import volumes have decreased by about 22%, dropping from $315 billion to $247 billion in 2024. This downward trend continued into early 2025 but at a more moderate pace, with a 2.9% decline in the first four months.
The most pronounced reductions were seen in machinery and equipment imports, which fell by 12% in 2024 and an additional 3.6% in the first quarter of 2025.

The Bank of Russia estimates that the economy has already adjusted to most of the drastic external changes.
In 2025, the federal budget allocated more than 850 billion rubles for import substitution programs. Support mechanisms include subsidies for localization, tax incentives, and simplified procedures for parallel imports, which are gradually decreasing in volume. Experts estimate that full import substitution in key industries could be achieved between 2027 and 2031.


The ruble on the rise: strength or risk?​

Since the beginning of 2025, the Russian ruble has strengthened 45% against the US dollar, according to
Here is one example from Wikipedia of Russia responding to the sanctions -

As a result of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Kamaz is sanctioned by the EU (March 2022),[8] by New Zealand (April 2022),[9] and by Japan (January 2023).[10] In July 2023, Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu stated that the supplies of KAMAZ multipurpose vehicles had surged 17.6 times since early 2022.[11]

Didn't our local friendly establishment creep once say that Russia could hardly built a Tonka toy let alone a real live truck?
 

Death toll rises in Ukrainian strike on New Year’s party in Russia​

The Investigative Committee has said it is probing the attack in Kherson Region as a terrorist act
Death toll rises in Ukrainian strike on New Year’s party in Russia

The aftermath of a Ukrainian drone strike on the village of Khorly in Russia’s Kherson Region. © Russia’s Investigative Committee
The death toll from the Ukrainian drone strike on civilians celebrating New Year’s Eve in Kherson Region has increased to 27, and 31 others are reported as wounded, Russia’s Investigative Committee has said. Initial reports spoke of 24 fatalities.
The attack occurred shortly before midnight on December 31 in the Black Sea coastal village of Khorly. Multiple drones struck a crowded cafe and a hotel, triggering a massive blaze. At least one of the UAVs was carrying an incendiary mixture.
Two children were killed in the attack and five additional minors were among the injured, the Investigative Committee said in a statement on Friday.
At least 100 civilians, including guests and staff, had been inside the venue when the “terrorist act” took place, the statement read.
Fragments of several drones have been discovered by those investigating the scene of the attack, the agency said.

More than 26 forensic examinations, including medical, genetic, explosive and fire safety analysis, have been ordered as part of the investigation, it added.
"All members of the Ukrainian military involved in this crime will be identified and brought to justice,” the agency stressed.
Kherson Region, together with Zaporozhye Region and the People’s Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk, joined Russia in the fall of 2022 as a result of local referendums. The territories have been frequent targets of indiscriminate Ukrainian attacks during the conflict between Moscow and Kiev.
Russian officials have said that the drone strike in Khorly was intentionally timed to maximize casualties and represents a war crime.
Russia’s ambassador to the UN in Geneva, Gennady Gatilov, suggested on Thursday that the attack was intended to “distract attention from the failures of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and disrupt any attempts to find a peaceful resolution to the conflict.”
READ MORE: GRAPHIC PHOTOS show aftermath of Ukrainian attack on Russian New Year’s party
Gatilov also condemned the Western nations for failing to react to the drone strike, warning that remaining silent was tantamount to “open complicity and involvement in the bloody crimes of neo-Nazis.”
 
Vulture coming back to feast on the corpse.
She is another drugged up Zombie for the Globalists ! ! !
 
Anybody see the kabuki theater in Paris?
A declaration of intent in the event of a peace deal with Russia.
Military hubs and everything.
TTK says "we're closer to peace than ever "
Hurray!
 
Anybody see the kabuki theater in Paris?
A declaration of intent in the event of a peace deal with Russia.
Military hubs and everything.
TTK says "we're closer to peace than ever "
Hurray!
Ah my friend, you will need to expand a little on that!
 
This is mad. When is Starmer up for election, BTW?
Local elections in May ( just part of the UK ) ~ Though the Labour Party are very very very slow to get rid of Leaders, even bad Leaders.

At the moment it looks like Labour ( and Starmer ) will get a hammering in these elections. Could be interesting times ! ! !
 
Scorching hot from the Gurniad

UK and France agree to deploy forces to Ukraine in the event of a peace deal – Europe live https://share.google/EpT03CrenvXU1AJbq
So if Russia decide to, say, hit back at Ukraine, after a Ukrainian attack on Russian interests, post ceasefire, do the UK and France then declare war on Russia... Sounds like the "coalition of the willing" are desperate for WW3. If you look at how innocuous WW1 started, this is madness. If any sh1t for brains in Dail Eireann wants a part of this......
 
So if Russia decide to, say, hit back at Ukraine, after a Ukrainian attack on Russian interests, post ceasefire, do the UK and France then declare war on Russia... Sounds like the "coalition of the willing" are desperate for WW3. If you look at how innocuous WW1 started, this is madness. If any sh1t for brains in Dail Eireann wants a part of this......
Yeah ~ there is a theory ( one of the theories anyway ) re; WW1 that they were all bluffing, but because of modern transport i.e. trains that they all had armed forces in position, and then none of them could be seen to back down. That was some huge number of people dead, because stupid politicians did stupid stuff ! ! !
 
Has anybody asked Ukraine about this, or is it just another desperate little brainfart from that unelected rentboy Zelensky?
Starmer , Macron, Merz
Rutte equally unpopular and ridiculous
Three deeply unpopular premiers and a NATO puppet.
Retard kabuki theater!
To look proactive!
 
Starmer , Macron, Merz
Rutte equally unpopular and ridiculous
Three deeply unpopular premiers and a NATO puppet.
Retard kabuki theater!
To look proactive!
There is a lot to be unpacked from this.

How large are these bases going to be and what exactly will be their role? Not sure about France but the UK simply hasn't the manpower or ability to fight anything more than an odd skirmish so far from home. How is Russia going to be deterred, and from what?

America was always envisaged as playing a major part in any European conflict with Russia, Trump has signaled an end to that notion which disembowels any attempt by Europe to be a military force to be reckoned with on the continent.

UK and France hate Russia, that seems to be the sole purpose of this partnership of the damned, they wanted war with Putin to exact revenge for something or other, but it's not clear what, although Russia is said to have displaced French influence in Africa.

Putin said no to NATO on Ukraine soil and now Macron and Starmer think that a handful of obsolete tanks parked a few miles away from his border is the next best thing and he'll have to damn well get used to it. A laughable scenario, who the hell do they think they are kidding?

Is this anything more than a last throw of the dice as western empires sink into irrelevance and oblivion? It will do nothing but give the rest of the world a damn good laugh.
 
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There is a lot to be unpacked from this.

How large are these bases going to be and what exactly will be their role? Not sure about France but the UK simply hasn't the manpower or ability to fight anything more than an odd skirmish so far from home. How is Russia going to be deterred, and from what?

America was always envisaged as playing a major part in any European conflict with Russia, Trump has signaled an end to that notion which disembowels any attempt by Europe to be a military force to be reckoned with on the continent.

UK and France hate Russia, that seems to be the sole purpose of this partnership of the damned, they wanted war with Putin to exact revenge for something or other, but it's not clear what, although Russia is said to have displaced French influence in Africa.

Putin said no to NATO on Ukraine soil and now Macron and Starmer think that a handful of obsolete tanks parked a few miles away from his border is the next best thing and he'll have to damn well get used to it. A laughable scenario, who the hell do they think they are kidding?

Is this anything more than a last throw of the dice as western empires sink into irrelevance and oblivion? It will do nothing but give the rest of the world a damn good laugh.
Let's see, so USA annex's Greenland, rest of Nato complains, Trump says ok, we the USA are leaving NATO... Will Starmer and Macron still deploy troops to Ukraine, knowing NATO is finished.... Will they fcuk.....
 
Let's see, so USA annex's Greenland, rest of Nato complains, Trump says ok, we the USA are leaving NATO... Will Starmer and Macron still deploy troops to Ukraine, knowing NATO is finished.... Will they fcuk.....
Aye, its like this partnership is some sort of bait to draw NATO into a war, Trump has other fish to fry, it's not going to work out for them.
 
I think that was back in June, not sure if much has happened since.
congress members yesterday sought to impeach trump and there were Republicans joining democrats to do so .
trump then announced that if the Republicans do not win the mid terms he expects to be impeached as they will lose congress .
people see he is under the control of mossad who have the goods on him and he is going out on a limb to remain in office .
the other worry is the imminent war on the city of London who would not exist if not for the billions of cash they wash from the drug trade.
and trump has stated the drug trade is killing 300,000 Americans each year -- and if somebody nuked a city you would expect these causalities and america would respond with several nukes to this event but do you expect me to stay silent because they died from drug use .
this is what the threats to Colombia are about and mexico is in his sights also.
powerful people are upset with trump -- actually doing something that would make a difference .
Libya was destroyed when they dropped the petrodollar - Iran also got the shah when they did the same .
Venezuela was next month to drop the petrodollar also --hence the action against the country.
 
congress members yesterday sought to impeach trump and there were Republicans joining democrats to do so .
trump then announced that if the Republicans do not win the mid terms he expects to be impeached as they will lose congress .
people see he is under the control of mossad who have the goods on him and he is going out on a limb to remain in office .
the other worry is the imminent war on the city of London who would not exist if not for the billions of cash they wash from the drug trade.
and trump has stated the drug trade is killing 300,000 Americans each year -- and if somebody nuked a city you would expect these causalities and america would respond with several nukes to this event but do you expect me to stay silent because they died from drug use .
this is what the threats to Colombia are about and mexico is in his sights also.
powerful people are upset with trump -- actually doing something that would make a difference .
Libya was destroyed when they dropped the petrodollar - Iran also got the shah when they did the same .
Venezuela was next month to drop the petrodollar also --hence the action against the country.
Would you consider that Israel ( Mossad et al ) may well have the exact same, plans / objectives, as the American Deep-State / Dark-State ? !

Perhaps that they are, so close / so intertwined, as to be the same thing ! !

The idea that Mossad were doing, this, that and the other, ( Re; Jeffrey Epstein and other stuff ) with-out the American Deep-State / Dark-State knowing all about it, is for the birds ! ! ( and they would have to be dumb birds at that )

Does anyone even have a figure for the vast sums of money spent by the American Intelligence Agencies ( The American Deep-State / Dark-State ) ? !
 
Would you consider that Israel ( Mossad et al ) may well have the exact same, plans / objectives, as the American Deep-State / Dark-State ? !

Perhaps that they are, so close / so intertwined, as to be the same thing ! !

The idea that Mossad were doing, this, that and the other, ( Re; Jeffrey Epstein and other stuff ) with-out the American Deep-State / Dark-State knowing all about it, is for the birds ! ! ( and they would have to be dumb birds at that )

Does anyone even have a figure for the vast sums of money spent by the American Intelligence Agencies ( The American Deep-State / Dark-State ) ? !
the patriots of america now openly admit they are occupied by Israel which would not have been said even a year ago --there is a huge change in america .
the next generation can see what Israel the great parasite is doing to america and has robbed it and is responsible for the poverty in america and the drug money the porn industry and the 97%controlled media are all members of the same club .the engine of america is the protestant fundamentalist Christians who have been hoodwinked by having their bibles amended to make Israel the focus of all their wealth and worship instead of god .
jimmy dore did a great show recently about tucker taking on the protestant false pastors who just nakedly serve Israel and he became emotional stating they will kill tucker for this .
he also stated this tucker speech was the most powerful piece of television he has ever witnessed in his long life.
it was so powerful and tucker was unafraid and his audience did not clap and he knew they did not want him to say what he did as it is so fundamental to their belief to serve Israel first as their bible states falsely that GOD himself will bless anyone who serves Israel .
and these Christians are now members of a cult and it is incapable of changing direction as they are deeply programmed to adore Israel even at the expense of their christian religion and their love of america .
 
Trump needs to just walk away from this shitshow and leave NATO deal with their proxy war against Russia.

Russia rejects Trump’s 20-point peace plan for Ukraine: ‘Forming a true axis of war’​

By
Caitlin Doornbos
Published Jan. 8, 2026, 1:13 p.m. ET



The Russian Foreign Ministry on Thursday rejected the latest US-backed offering to end the Russia-Ukraine war, issuing a blistering rebuff that threatens to blow up President Trump’s peace plan.
A terse statement from Moscow’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs slammed the US-European proposal for security assurances for Ukraine, saying the protection plan amounts to “a true axis of war.”
“The document turned out to be extremely far from a peace settlement. The declaration is not aimed at achieving a lasting peace and security but rather at continuing the militarization, escalation and further conflict aggravation,” the ministry claimed.
Russian President Vladimir Putin in a camouflage jacket, facing General Staff Chief Valery Gerasimov.3
Russia rejected Trump’s 20-point peace plan for an end to the war.KREMLIN RU/HANDOUT/EPA/Shutterstock
“Its core element is the deployment of ‘a multinational force’ on Ukrainian territory that the coalition will have to form to contribute to the ‘rebuilding’ of the Ukrainian armed forces and ‘support deterrence’ following the cessation of the hostilities,” it added.























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The rebuke comes after Trump’s peace envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner signed onto a five-point plan with European leaders in Paris Tuesday to enhance “security guarantees” for Ukraine if it reaches terms to end Russia’s nearly four-year invasion.
The agreement pledges “critical long term military assistance” to Kyiv, a “European-led” multinational peacekeeping force, additional military aid and sanctions in the “case of a future armed attack by Russia,” as well as “mutually beneficial defence cooperation with Ukraine.”

Trump met with Zelensky last month to discuss an end to the war.UKRAINIAN PRESIDENTIAL OFFICE/AFP via Getty Images
If the supplemental five-point plan on security guarantees is rejected — which Ukraine has required — then the underlying 20-point peace plan to stop the war is in jeopardy.

Russia also rejected plans to continue Trump’s Prioritized Ukraine Requirements List (PURL) initiative, which allows Europe to buy US-made weapons to supply Ukraine to deter future Russian aggression.
“The document also includes clauses on further consolidation of Ukraine’s and NATO’s military industrial sectors,” the ministry said.

The rejection deals a blow to Trump’s efforts to build a postwar security framework that would shield Ukraine with NATO-style protections — a plan Moscow claims amounts to locking in Western dominance while leaving Russia exposed, despite it having been crafted to keep Ukraine officially out of the alliance.

Rescue workers carry out cleanup operations following a Russian missile strike on a residential building in Kyivskyi district on Jan. 2, 2026.Viacheslav Madiievskyi/Ukrinform/INSTARimages
“The new militarist declarations of the so-called Coalition of the Willing and the Kyiv regime are forming a true axis of war,” it said. “Its participants’ plans are becoming increasingly more dangerous and destructive for the future of the European continent and its residents, who are also forced by Western politicians to pay for such ambitions out of their own pockets.”
The ministry also said the US seizure of the Bella 1 oil tanker — later renamed the Marinera under a Russian flag — amounted to a flagrant breach of the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea and a threat to the freedom of navigation at sea.
“The use of force in international waters against a civilian vessel can only be interpreted as a gross violation of fundamental principles and norms,” Moscow’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement. “… This constitutes a material infringement of the legitimate rights and interests of the vessel owner.”
It also alleged that Trump’s orders risked sparking acute international crises and undermining global maritime norms.
However, the US is not a signatory of UN convention, and Washington holds that it was within its rights to seize the vessel for violating the US blockade of Venezuelan oil ports.
 
Trump needs to just walk away from this shitshow and leave NATO deal with their proxy war against Russia.

Russia rejects Trump’s 20-point peace plan for Ukraine: ‘Forming a true axis of war’​

By
Caitlin Doornbos
Published Jan. 8, 2026, 1:13 p.m. ET



The Russian Foreign Ministry on Thursday rejected the latest US-backed offering to end the Russia-Ukraine war, issuing a blistering rebuff that threatens to blow up President Trump’s peace plan.
A terse statement from Moscow’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs slammed the US-European proposal for security assurances for Ukraine, saying the protection plan amounts to “a true axis of war.”
“The document turned out to be extremely far from a peace settlement. The declaration is not aimed at achieving a lasting peace and security but rather at continuing the militarization, escalation and further conflict aggravation,” the ministry claimed.
Russian President Vladimir Putin in a camouflage jacket, facing General Staff Chief Valery Gerasimov.3
Russia rejected Trump’s 20-point peace plan for an end to the war.KREMLIN RU/HANDOUT/EPA/Shutterstock
“Its core element is the deployment of ‘a multinational force’ on Ukrainian territory that the coalition will have to form to contribute to the ‘rebuilding’ of the Ukrainian armed forces and ‘support deterrence’ following the cessation of the hostilities,” it added.























00:02





04:24



















The rebuke comes after Trump’s peace envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner signed onto a five-point plan with European leaders in Paris Tuesday to enhance “security guarantees” for Ukraine if it reaches terms to end Russia’s nearly four-year invasion.
The agreement pledges “critical long term military assistance” to Kyiv, a “European-led” multinational peacekeeping force, additional military aid and sanctions in the “case of a future armed attack by Russia,” as well as “mutually beneficial defence cooperation with Ukraine.”

Trump met with Zelensky last month to discuss an end to the war.UKRAINIAN PRESIDENTIAL OFFICE/AFP via Getty Images
If the supplemental five-point plan on security guarantees is rejected — which Ukraine has required — then the underlying 20-point peace plan to stop the war is in jeopardy.

Russia also rejected plans to continue Trump’s Prioritized Ukraine Requirements List (PURL) initiative, which allows Europe to buy US-made weapons to supply Ukraine to deter future Russian aggression.
“The document also includes clauses on further consolidation of Ukraine’s and NATO’s military industrial sectors,” the ministry said.

The rejection deals a blow to Trump’s efforts to build a postwar security framework that would shield Ukraine with NATO-style protections — a plan Moscow claims amounts to locking in Western dominance while leaving Russia exposed, despite it having been crafted to keep Ukraine officially out of the alliance.

Rescue workers carry out cleanup operations following a Russian missile strike on a residential building in Kyivskyi district on Jan. 2, 2026.Viacheslav Madiievskyi/Ukrinform/INSTARimages
“The new militarist declarations of the so-called Coalition of the Willing and the Kyiv regime are forming a true axis of war,” it said. “Its participants’ plans are becoming increasingly more dangerous and destructive for the future of the European continent and its residents, who are also forced by Western politicians to pay for such ambitions out of their own pockets.”
The ministry also said the US seizure of the Bella 1 oil tanker — later renamed the Marinera under a Russian flag — amounted to a flagrant breach of the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea and a threat to the freedom of navigation at sea.
“The use of force in international waters against a civilian vessel can only be interpreted as a gross violation of fundamental principles and norms,” Moscow’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement. “… This constitutes a material infringement of the legitimate rights and interests of the vessel owner.”
It also alleged that Trump’s orders risked sparking acute international crises and undermining global maritime norms.
However, the US is not a signatory of UN convention, and Washington holds that it was within its rights to seize the vessel for violating the US blockade of Venezuelan oil ports.
Whatever happened to that 'Stop it in a day' Trump was telling us all about a year or so ago?

Seems like he wanted NATO lite parked on Putin's lawn while selling the guns to the European dunderheads who would be payng for it.

The Russians did us all a favour by kicking it out.
 

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