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Jarry said:
I answered this before.

Are you handbagging again?
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No you didn't, you ran away shouting some crap over your shoulder, just as you are doing now

Anyway, any updates on how the great spring offensive is going?
 
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Jarry said:
www.theguardian.com

‘What’s this all for?’: Russian deserters call on former comrades to join them

Men tell of escape to Armenia, guilt and remorse as growing number of soldiers flee ‘criminal war’ in Ukraine
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

www.newsweek.com

Mutiny is brewing in the Russian army

It has been reported that there are at least 16 places in occupied regions of Ukraine where Russian troops have been detained for insubordination.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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What, again? What happened the last 23 times we were told that?
 
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Jarry said:
www.bbc.com

Ukraine war: Russia goes back to prisons to feed its war machine

Russia's defence ministry has taken over from Wagner in recruiting inmates to fight in Ukraine.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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Minor offences only, kids who got themselves into trouble rather than hardened criminals. The British Army for one used to take lads with a criminal record and integrate them back into society through service. No doubt the plan failed on numerous occasions but it probably helped a lot of others as well. On balance I'd say it is a positive move.

As for the BBC saying - Similarly to Wagner's prisoner units, Storm-Z detachments are reportedly often treated as an expendable force thrown into battle - with little consideration for the lives of their servicemen, then we have come to expect only shite from that source. When in it says 'reportedly', who exactly was doing the reporting, Zelensky?
 
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Mad as Fish said:
Minor offences only, kids who got themselves into trouble rather than hardened criminals. The British Army for one used to take lads with a criminal record and integrate them back into society through service. No doubt the plan failed on numerous occasions but it probably helped a lot of others as well. On balance I'd say it is a positive move.

As for the BBC saying - Similarly to Wagner's prisoner units, Storm-Z detachments are reportedly often treated as an expendable force thrown into battle - with little consideration for the lives of their servicemen, then we have come to expect only shite from that source. When in it says 'reportedly', who exactly was doing the reporting, Zelensky?
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The Irish Army used to do the same. I once worked with a guy that was given the ultimatum ~ Either sign up or go to jail ~ He signed up.
 
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Jarry said:
These Russian lads are already in jail. And being recruited on crimes that would not be accepted in the British or Irish army, indeed many armies.
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No. They were recruited by a PMC. They signed contracts that stated if they broke the PMC's rules, death by firing squad was likely.
 
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Fishalt said:
While Jerry copes by posting Twitter posts from shilling nobodies with Israeli flags in their Bios, I'll continue to deliver the facts, and the goods. Ukrainian captain telling it how it really is. Ukraine are not winning and running desperately low on troops. Morale is gone.


View: https://streamable.com/6d7pfk


Extra credit bonus stage; the war chest is running dry.

https://archive.md/X2SCq

So what's the Ukrainian regime doing while this is going on? Failing to destroy flags with drones. This is the actual unedited clip that Jerry (who deliberately misrepresents this conflict because his ego can't handle admitting he backed the wrong horse) posted yesterday. Ukraine literally cannot destroy a solitary flag on an undefended slag heap.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YETFeDRhle0
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But it's not really Russia V. Ukraine, it's Russia V. America who are controlling the Ukr forces through the CIA, according to Tass, who strike as being a little more sober than some propaganda units, such as the BBC.
 
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The old Putin is dead trick is likely to cover the fact that an unknown number of US special forces have reportedly been killed in a cock up rescue attempt in Gaza. So in a few days a chopper will crash in Montana after hitting a seagull and seal team six will be wiped out again
 
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Jarry said:
www.pbs.org

From prison to the frontlines: Thousands of Russian convicts sent to fight in Ukraine

Russia sent hundreds of thousands of troops into its war in Ukraine and suffered immense casualties. Some were drawn from prisons, both officially and through a private military company called the Wagner Group. With the support of the Pulitzer Center, Simon Ostrovsky and Yegor Troyanovsky...
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org
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No one is forcing them. They are given the option. They can always say no.
 
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The 1 week offensive to take Avdiivka continues.

Institute for the Study of War

Heavy Russian equipment losses around Avdiivka will likely undermine Russian offensive capabilities over the long term. Ukrainian forces marginally advanced on the east (left) bank of Kherson Oblast and continued offensive operations near Bakhmut and in
www.understandingwar.org www.understandingwar.org

Heavy Russian equipment losses around Avdiivka will likely undermine Russian offensive capabilities over the long term. Ukrainian Tavriisk Group of Forces Spokesperson Colonel Oleksandr Shtupun stated on October 26 that Russian forces have suffered 5,000 personnel killed and wounded and 400 armored vehicles losses near Avdiivka and Marinka (southwest of Donetsk City) since October 10.[1] Satellite imagery has confirmed that the Russian military has lost at least 109 military vehicles, primarily armored fighting vehicles and tanks, near Avdiivika between October 10 and 20.[2] A Ukrainian reserve officer stated that Russian forces appear to be using fewer armored vehicles near Avdiivka, although Russian forces may be regrouping for renewed large mechanized assaults as they did between the initial mechanized assaults on October 10 and a second series of large mechanized assaults on October 19 and 20.[3] The Russian command has funneled additional forces to the Avdiivka front to offset heavy manpower losses and maintain the Russian military’s ability to sustain its ongoing offensive effort.[4]


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1mMaIfJwH50
 
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Jarry all I see is a smoke stack , could be lads burning tyres for all I know .....posting disinformation like this hurts your side
 
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Word is going round that Russia has mounted a fresh attack on Avdiivka with Ukraine taking heavy losses.

Perhaps all Jarry's scutter about the grand victory of the Ukrainian army in this city should have been bookmarked.
 
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Mad as Fish said:
Word is going round that Russia has mounted a fresh attack on Avdiivka with Ukraine taking heavy losses.

Perhaps all Jarry's scutter about the grand victory of the Ukrainian army in this city should have been bookmarked.
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They are tightening the noose pretty rapidly. Once they Capture Avdiivka shit gets real for the Ukies fast but they have a lot of de-mining to do, and AFU has fortified the city very strongly. It's their last heavily fortified bastion in the entire region. Will take as least as long as Bakhmut to clear totally IMO.
 
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Fishalt said:
They are tightening the noose pretty rapidly. Once they Capture Avdiivka shit gets real for the Ukies fast but they have a lot of de-mining to do, and AFU has fortified the city very strongly. It's their last heavily fortified bastion in the entire region. Will take as least as long as Bakhmut to clear totally IMO.
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It's down to resources both men and materials.
And the Ukraine have less and less of both!
 
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It's down to resources both men and materials.
And the Ukraine have less and less of both!
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Russia will definitely take it, but it will be an expensive exercise both in terms of manpower and equipment. Ukies really, really don't want them to get it for a variety of reasons that aren't purely strategic. Morale is already very low with the troops, and the capture of the last Major city in the entire region would probably be a death-blow to troop motivation.
 
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