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There is nothing to debate about Russias campaign of terror against Ukrainian civilians and infrastructure.



This is my last post on the matter to you. I'll just refer you to this post in future.
Wikipedia is controlled by the Neocons FFS!

You may as well cite something from the institute for the study of war, or the New York Times😀
 

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It's discipline training, so if/when they're captured by enemy they'll have been toughened up to take the flak, it's war and a reminder what the penalty for desertion is - on site training for the distracted inexperienced recruits - makes tougher soldiers?
this is a kindness as firstly all officers in the British army were issued with short barrel revolvers useless against the enemy but effective and possible to aim for 50yds approx ---i frequently over the years attended the army/police revolver range in abbeyleix sandpit where i witnessed many people unable to hit a target at 25 yards .
this weapon really only suitable for their intended use of shooting their own troops when required as demanded in their officers manual and they would be court-martialed for failing their first and most important duty to ""MAINTAIN DISCIPLINE IN THE RANKS ".
no army that i know of omits the arming of officers with weapons designed to kill their own .
a flogging would be seen by any professional soldier as a kindness .
 
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This is my last post on the matter to you. I'll just refer you to this post in future.
OK but I must refer you to the Facts of War

Between 1940 and 1945, over 52,000 civilians were killed in Britain during bombing raids by German aircraft. The most intense series of these raids took place from September 1940 to May 1941 in a period that has become known as the Blitz.
The Blitz holds a special place in British history for the light which it supposedly sheds on the character of those being bombarded from the air.
For many years, the assumption has been that those tens of thousands of men, women and children who died during the bombing were killed by the explosion of German bombs.
This is not so.

A large proportion of the deaths, perhaps as many as half, were caused not by the German air force, but rather by the British army and their artillery.


One expert working at Cambridge’s Cavendish Laboratory estimated that half the shells exploded at ground level and that they killed as many people as the German bombs.

If true, this would mean that the British army and their artillery were responsible for over 25,000 deaths in Britain during the Second World War.

Friendly Fire as it's known has been responsible for much of the civilian deaths in Ukraine.
As you said yourself, hitting incoming Russian missiles which are intended for infrastructure tends to knock them down onto the population below. As january '23 Dnipro apartments clearly shows

But from the start - Deciding to follow death clowns McCain and Graham and bomb Donbas then to flip the bird at Minsk2 surely was gambling with the lives of Innocent Ukrainians - Tit for Tat, which is why you draw much Ire when you continue to cheer on your posts showing further Uke aggression because that Tit will certainly earn a Russian Tat in return.

Anyway, let's hope for peace and a new fair deal for all concerned.🌱
 
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OK but I must refer you to the Facts of War

Between 1940 and 1945, over 52,000 civilians were killed in Britain during bombing raids by German aircraft. The most intense series of these raids took place from September 1940 to May 1941 in a period that has become known as the Blitz.
The Blitz holds a special place in British history for the light which it supposedly sheds on the character of those being bombarded from the air.
For many years, the assumption has been that those tens of thousands of men, women and children who died during the bombing were killed by the explosion of German bombs.
This is not so.

A large proportion of the deaths, perhaps as many as half, were caused not by the German air force, but rather by the British army and their artillery.


One expert working at Cambridge’s Cavendish Laboratory estimated that half the shells exploded at ground level and that they killed as many people as the German bombs.

If true, this would mean that the British army and their artillery were responsible for over 25,000 deaths in Britain during the Second World War.

Friendly Fire as it's known has been responsible for much of the civilian deaths in Ukraine.
As you said yourself, hitting incoming Russian missiles which are intended for infrastructure tends to knock them down onto the population below. As january '23 Dnipro apartments clearly shows

But from the start - Deciding to follow death clowns McCain and Graham and bomb Donbas then to flip the bird at Minsk2 surely was gambling with the lives of Innocent Ukrainians - Tit for Tat, which is why you draw much Ire when you continue to cheer on your posts showing further Uke aggression because that Tit will certainly earn a Russian Tat in return.

Anyway, let's hope for peace and a new fair deal for all concerned.🌱
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Dr Tom is completely on board with all the Nato talking points to the last iteration.
No context.
Just keep the money going.
Very disappointed in him.
On a practical note.
Where are all these resources to keep the plucky Ukrainian freedom lover's going to come from.?
Remember that the Russkies were down to shovels and washing machine parts from the same narrative shapers.
Everyone gets it wrong assessing Russian capability!

 
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Dr Tom is completely on board with all the Nato talking points to the last iteration.
No context.
Just keep the money going.
Very disappointed in him.
On a practical note.
Where are all these resources to keep the plucky Ukrainian freedom lover's going to come from.?
Remember that the Russkies were down to shovels and washing machine parts from the same narrative shapers.
Everyone gets it wrong assessing Russian capability!

Tom is in a complete state of delusion.

I have long been of the opinion that the irish army should just be abolished completely. Keep the few boats for fishing protection and lifesaving, along with the helicopters. Having those handful of modest jets is a complete joke and probably could be shot down by a half decent machine gun.
 

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Tom is in a complete state of delusion.

I have long been of the opinion that the irish army should just be abolished completely. Keep the few boats for fishing protection and lifesaving, along with the helicopters. Having those handful of modest jets is a complete joke and probably could be shot down by a half decent machine gun.


Irish businessman Chay Bowes:

View: https://t.me/fr0m_Russia_with_L0ve/34032
 
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Tom is in a complete state of delusion.

I have long been of the opinion that the irish army should just be abolished completely. Keep the few boats for fishing protection and lifesaving, along with the helicopters. Having those handful of modest jets is a complete joke and probably could be shot down by a half decent machine gun.
The Brits look after the airspace anyway, Ireland is still viewed as that centuries old problem of being the back door to an invasion of the UK mainland.
 

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Tom is in a complete state of delusion.

I have long been of the opinion that the irish army should just be abolished completely. Keep the few boats for fishing protection and lifesaving, along with the helicopters. Having those handful of modest jets is a complete joke and probably could be shot down by a half decent machine gun.
The only reason for the existence of the Free State Army was to enforce the British created Irish State on the Irish people. They were always the enemy of the Irish Nation, filled with the collaborator who would have manned the RIC and the Red Coats in their day. Thankfully the last few years has shown the Irish people like never before that the Irish state is their biggest threat.
 

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Things are escalating in a dangerous direction, looks like other countries are going to end up "feeling" as @Kangal suggests "Feeling the Pain" that Ukraine & Russia do.😖

MOSCOW, December 30. /TASS/. The United Kingdom is behind Ukraine’s attack on Belgorod, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova told TASS.

"Great Britain is behind the terror attack, as it, in coordination with the United States, is inciting the Kiev regime to terrorist actions as it understands that Ukraine’s counteroffensive has failed. London, as the Ukrainian presidential office representatives have recently said, has banned the Kiev regime from holding talks with the Russia side, staking on a ‘victory on the battlefield,’" she said.

"With not a single chance to improve the Ukrainian army’s deplorable situation ‘on the ground,’ the Anglo-Saxons have taken on the tactic of terror attacks on civilians," she added.

She said that the terror attack on Belgorod will be the focus of a United Nations Security Council meeting, which has been requested by Russia.
 
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Things are escalating in a dangerous direction, looks like other countries are going to end up "feeling" as @Kangal suggests "Feeling the Pain" that Ukraine & Russia do.😖

MOSCOW, December 30. /TASS/. The United Kingdom is behind Ukraine’s attack on Belgorod, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova told TASS.

"Great Britain is behind the terror attack, as it, in coordination with the United States, is inciting the Kiev regime to terrorist actions as it understands that Ukraine’s counteroffensive has failed. London, as the Ukrainian presidential office representatives have recently said, has banned the Kiev regime from holding talks with the Russia side, staking on a ‘victory on the battlefield,’" she said.

"With not a single chance to improve the Ukrainian army’s deplorable situation ‘on the ground,’ the Anglo-Saxons have taken on the tactic of terror attacks on civilians," she added.

She said that the terror attack on Belgorod will be the focus of a United Nations Security Council meeting, which has been requested by Russia.
I look forward to proof.

Just like the Russians are demanding about the missle that entered Polish airspace before going back into Ukraine.
 

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It has to be a bot or some type of AI programme.
There's no way Comical Jarry is a human.
How simple it is to get an AI programme to scour Twatter for anything anti-Russian and post it up here.

On the other hand, if that is a human posting ...............:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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It has to be a bot or some type of AI programme.
There's no way Comical Jarry is a human.
How simple it is to get an AI programme to scour Twatter for anything anti-Russian and post it up here.

On the other hand, if that is a human posting ...............:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
I imagine the whole Jarry/Tankman/CW operation being something along the lines of this scamming set up in India -


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn8pB_WOHA8
 

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I imagine the whole Jarry/Tankman/CW operation being something along the lines of this scamming set up in India -


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn8pB_WOHA8

Has to be.
I mean, who has the time to spend 24 hours a day 7 days a week scanning Twatter and then posting whatever anti-Russian shite it sees on this and numerous other sites?
One would have to be clinically insane.
 

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Meanwhile, in the real (human) world........

Apparently when Wukraine targets Belgorod it is purely to terrorise the civilian population, and without any other strategic value.
It's not as if there's any relevant infrastructure to destroy.
God help the Wukrainian civilians if Russia was to undertake such tactics.

The day previous Russia Targeted 8-10+ cities with their biggest barrage since the start resulting in 40 dead according to MSM but Kiev managed to Kill 22 in just a single city.

Should Kiev keep up the purposeful civilian slaughter then surely they are signalling themselves to be ferociously revenged upon - What else could they expect?
 

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Apparently when Wukraine targets Belgorod it is purely to terrorise the civilian population, and without any other strategic value.
It's not as if there's any relevant infrastructure to destroy.
God help the Wukrainian civilians if Russia was to undertake such tactics.

The day previous Russia Targeted 8-10+ cities with their biggest barrage since the start resulting in 40 dead according to MSM but Kiev managed to Kill 22 in just a single city.

Should Kiev keep up the purposeful civilian slaughter then surely they are signalling themselves to be ferociously revenged upon - What else could they expect?
Indeed.
Russia has for the most part been quite surgical in its approach, it could have wiped out most of Ukraine in a month if that was the aim.
The latest attack from the Nazi regime in Kiev could change all that fairly quickly and maybe that's Zitler's goal like we said here at the start......to start WW3.
 

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"The coming 2024 has been declared the Year of the Family in our country, and a real large family is, of course, one where children grow up, where attention, warmth and care for parents, love and respect for each other prevail," Putin said.

Doesn't sound like he's going to align Russia with the woke movement any time soon.
 

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Lessons learned, and a winning combination.

Forbes? Gotta try and drum up some good vibes for the moneymen somehow I guess. Soulless bastards would just love to cheer on death and destruction, but sure, Zelensky will give them a rifle and a set of fatigues apiece. What's stopping all these bloodthirsty thugs if they really want to get involved?
 

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"The coming 2024 has been declared the Year of the Family in our country, and a real large family is, of course, one where children grow up, where attention, warmth and care for parents, love and respect for each other prevail," Putin said.

Doesn't sound like he's going to align Russia with the woke movement any time soon.
our cult of a government are unable to match this wish for 24 by their definition of the worlds greatest pariah .
what does that make them.
when the sister and fiance of Aisling Murphy made a statement repeating their courtroom victim impact statement on the steps of the court they were censored by the cults press as they were blunt and truthful regarding the circumstances of her death and they spoke about who killed her and the existence of the liberty of a known criminal who the cult failed to deport after the lengthy procedure of obtaining a deportation order .
this failure and the failure to stop him entering Ireland with a known serious criminal record --was the glaring cause of Aislings death --however the cult and their press would not allow this into the public domain .
in the last hours of 23 i wish to remember her into 24 along with Irelands longest serving prisoner of conscience Mr Enoch Burke who was mentioned today by the most senior catholic clergyman in the Sunday times who expressed his regret that such a good teacher was imprisoned for his christian beliefs .
As i get older i am reminded in various ways by my family that my time amongst you all is limited and the subject of where i wish to be buried has surfaced and been discussed and subjects never previously discussed are gently brought to the surface -- therefore the number 24 may be my number if the hints are correct -- i have a long list of things i must do but i have made an appointment to make sure my children are not left with a mess if 24 is the year and my wife and i have not formalized our financial planning for our final departure to the great cruise ship in the sky as i have never been on a cruise yet .
in the back of my mind i am in my mid thirties and don't see any reason to look too closely at a calendar but you can double that .
so for most of you ""whats another year"" but for me the hands on the clock have just got a bit bigger somehow and i am not going to pay too much attention .
a happy new year to you all and thanks for the chat and the laughs and the info which i really appreciate as i only buy a newspaper once a week now as i am so disgusted by the content of most of them .
its getting better we know more today and the ability to see who rules us and who enslaves us is becoming more visible each day and that gives me hope for 24 .
 

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Lessons learned, and a winning combination.

According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the total enemy losses in this direction amounted to up to 300 military personnel, two armored combat vehicles, and four vehicles. In addition, during the counter-battery fight, the following were hit: the US-made M777 howitzer, the Polish-made Krab self-propelled howitzer, the D-30 howitzer, the US-made M119 howitzer, as well as the US-made AN/TPQ-50 counter mortar radar.

Tit for Tat😫
 

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You can't keep bombing Ukrainian hospitals, malls and apartment complexes forever without expecting the other side to hit back in return.
But that's what Wukraine has been doing since 2014 and look what happened.

Now again there's been more Nato backed attacks launched into the city centre so no surprises when Tat for Tit is returned, and please, no need to cheer on the death count, is there?😦

DONETSK, January 1 /TASS/. The armed forces of Ukraine delivered a deadly strike on the city center of Donetsk on New Year’s Eve, the Donetsk People’s Republic first responders said early on Monday.
"A shelling attack was reported in the city center. Casualties were reported, their number is being verified," the city’s emergencies services said.

 

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our cult of a government are unable to match this wish for 24 by their definition of the worlds greatest pariah .
what does that make them.
when the sister and fiance of Aisling Murphy made a statement repeating their courtroom victim impact statement on the steps of the court they were censored by the cults press as they were blunt and truthful regarding the circumstances of her death and they spoke about who killed her and the existence of the liberty of a known criminal who the cult failed to deport after the lengthy procedure of obtaining a deportation order .
this failure and the failure to stop him entering Ireland with a known serious criminal record --was the glaring cause of Aislings death --however the cult and their press would not allow this into the public domain .
in the last hours of 23 i wish to remember her into 24 along with Irelands longest serving prisoner of conscience Mr Enoch Burke who was mentioned today by the most senior catholic clergyman in the Sunday times who expressed his regret that such a good teacher was imprisoned for his christian beliefs .
As i get older i am reminded in various ways by my family that my time amongst you all is limited and the subject of where i wish to be buried has surfaced and been discussed and subjects never previously discussed are gently brought to the surface -- therefore the number 24 may be my number if the hints are correct -- i have a long list of things i must do but i have made an appointment to make sure my children are not left with a mess if 24 is the year and my wife and i have not formalized our financial planning for our final departure to the great cruise ship in the sky as i have never been on a cruise yet .
in the back of my mind i am in my mid thirties and don't see any reason to look too closely at a calendar but you can double that .
so for most of you ""whats another year"" but for me the hands on the clock have just got a bit bigger somehow and i am not going to pay too much attention .
a happy new year to you all and thanks for the chat and the laughs and the info which i really appreciate as i only buy a newspaper once a week now as i am so disgusted by the content of most of them .
its getting better we know more today and the ability to see who rules us and who enslaves us is becoming more visible each day and that gives me hope for 24 .
As you, I find myself on the unfortunate side of sixty and wondering what the hell happened to all those years. Do I feel that age? Not at all, there is still a 40 year old brain thumping around inside my head, but it is drawn up short when the body refuses to comply to its more radical demands, but I still take the stairs when an escalator or lift is available. Abstinence from the f_gs and going easy on the booze has helped on that front, I swear it.

Yes, the matrix, that web of misinformation that ensnares us all and demands that, here in Ireland anyway, we conform to the comfortable little club of social normality, the boundaries of which are laid down through constant repetition by the MSM, with RTE in the vanguard. It is quite nauseating but there are too many that are happy to slip into the trance engineered by the government's media goons. And why should the media be so compliant? Like everything else it's the money. It's a matter of public record that the major radio stations got 90k apiece to stay on board with covid and I am told that the printed press was also bought out, now that the Rubicon has been crossed what hope is there of returning?

On a couple of occasions I have found myself in the company of Varadker, it happened again earlier this year, the entity is a humanoid, bereft of any belief or conviction of his own. He is there as a middle manger for the NWO, that is his role in life, being gay means he has no family, so nothing to dissuade him from instructions received, that is the global and quite deliberate trend and Ireland has not escaped the curse.

Presently my lady friend is dozing in front of the Late Late Show, an awful confection that is the pus at the tip of the toxic pustule we call light entertainment. It symbolizes all that is wrong with the Irish establishment, grossly over engineered to try and present the illusion of a united ship sailing though the rough seas of global events. No, RTE, we are not all dependent little nine year olds and it is reassuring to meet an increasing number of people who reject this trash, but they are wary of stepping outside for fear of not being considered as dressed in the finest green.

So there you have it, life has turned to shit in the last three years, we know for sure that politicians can do little more than fix the occasional pot hole, but they are happy with that, it makes for an easier life where they don't have to think beyond the next expenses claim.

All the best for 24!
 
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