Ukraine.

[PlunkettsGhost]

More young men to the slaughter.
How come the Uki fanboys love seeing young males slaughtered and even younger males sexually abused?
Says a lot about their sick state of mind.

All male Ukrainians required to undergo health checks ahead of new draft

All male Ukrainians are required to undergo military readiness health checks before July 18, an official has said

www.rt.com

Pedophiles find Ukraine a good place to roam

Nobody knows the depth of the problem, but nation is seen as a hotbed of child pornography, sexual abuse… - Mar. 04, 2009. By Iryna Sandul

www.kyivpost.com

Sounds like the Khazarian Utopia is goin well

 

[Mad as Fish]

Unfortunately I'm finding that Fishalt is now deleting my posts according to his own whims, ie not "high quality sources" whatever that is supposed to mean. Its just a excuse to purge content he doesn't like. Instead of being a mod, he's become an editor and censor.

I suppose I can just put Wolf on ignore (yet again) if Fishalt was to be brought under control.

Good work Fishalt! Keep it up.

 

[scolairebocht]

Gosh I disagree with you Mad there? The site needs alternative points of view, thats how you get a good discussion going and Kangal is central to that. But also there always people reading in the wings these sites, and if they see different points of view getting a fair hearing they will be happy to join in, thats why its even more important to cherish alternative voices. We don't want just an echo chamber?

I am sorry Kangal that I cannot do anything about anybody randomly deleting your posts, except to say that of course I am against it. If it was possible to put Fishalt and wolf on ignore it might work, but I really don't know.

Can I just address another point, nearly everybody here seems to assume that because Kangal articulates the media/establishment line on most issues, which, and I am genuinely not trying to be insulting, would be a fair enough statement, that ipso facto he is a troll. I have no crystal ball which tells me one way or the other but if you go out into modern Ireland and debate politics with ordinary people, you will be stunned how many of them, clearly not trolls, think like Kangal does.

So we need to engage with people like that, hopefully persuade them differently on at least some matters of importance where I think they are flat out wrong, but not dismiss people out of hand with insults etc? Thats no way to proceed in my view....

 

[Mad as Fish]

Gosh I disagree with you Mad there? The site needs alternative points of view, thats how you get a good discussion going and Kangal is central to that. But also there always people reading in the wings these sites, and if they see different points of view getting a fair hearing they will be happy to join in, thats why its even more important to cherish alternative voices. We don't want just an echo chamber?

I am sorry Kangal that I cannot do anything about anybody randomly deleting your posts, except to say that of course I am against it. If it was possible to put Fishalt and wolf on ignore it might work, but I really don't know.

Can I just address another point, nearly everybody here seems to assume that because Kangal articulates the media/establishment line on most issues, which, and I am genuinely not trying to be insulting, would be a fair enough statement, that ipso facto he is a troll. I have no crystal ball which tells me one way or the other but if you go out into modern Ireland and debate politics with ordinary people, you will be stunned how many of them, clearly not trolls, think like Kangal does.

So we need to engage with people like that, hopefully persuade them differently on at least some matters of importance where I think they are flat out wrong, but not dismiss people out of hand with insults etc? Thats no way to proceed in my view....

One would wish for the site to be a place where individuals express considered opinions and verifiable facts are used to back up an argument or idea.

Unfortunately, such discussions are only too easily polluted by vested interests masquerading as independent participants, which I strongly believe to be the case with Kangal and past permutations of the entity such as Charlottesweb, M1A2 and so on.

Of course opposing views should be welcome, but they must not be confused with outright paid for propaganda which tends to push other posters to take up more extreme positions themselves.

Do you wish this site to be a cockpit of threats and insults, or a chamber of genteel and reasoned debate? Sad experience has shown that the latter is abhorrent to the Kangol entity which is why 'they' do the utmost to bring discord and disunity to the table.

We are not dealing with an individual in Kangol, but a paid for shill(s). We all have our own theories as to what is behind the account, I personally favour a group of repurposed scammers based in India.

 

[Wolf]

Gosh I disagree with you Mad there? The site needs alternative points of view, thats how you get a good discussion going and Kangal is central to that. But also there always people reading in the wings these sites, and if they see different points of view getting a fair hearing they will be happy to join in, thats why its even more important to cherish alternative voices. We don't want just an echo chamber?

I am sorry Kangal that I cannot do anything about anybody randomly deleting your posts, except to say that of course I am against it. If it was possible to put Fishalt and wolf on ignore it might work, but I really don't know.

Can I just address another point, nearly everybody here seems to assume that because Kangal articulates the media/establishment line on most issues, which, and I am genuinely not trying to be insulting, would be a fair enough statement, that ipso facto he is a troll. I have no crystal ball which tells me one way or the other but if you go out into modern Ireland and debate politics with ordinary people, you will be stunned how many of them, clearly not trolls, think like Kangal does.

So we need to engage with people like that, hopefully persuade them differently on at least some matters of importance where I think they are flat out wrong, but not dismiss people out of hand with insults etc? Thats no way to proceed in my view....

The chap got political Irish closed down by constantly threatening legal action and has been fully sitebanned from this site 3 times in the last 12 months.
He trolls and baits and causes disruption and strife for the moderators on every thread he spews his scour onto and you think having a moron like that around is a good idea?
What the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[Kangal]

Gosh I disagree with you Mad there? The site needs alternative points of view, thats how you get a good discussion going and Kangal is central to that. But also there always people reading in the wings these sites, and if they see different points of view getting a fair hearing they will be happy to join in, thats why its even more important to cherish alternative voices. We don't want just an echo chamber?

I am sorry Kangal that I cannot do anything about anybody randomly deleting your posts, except to say that of course I am against it. If it was possible to put Fishalt and wolf on ignore it might work, but I really don't know.

Can I just address another point, nearly everybody here seems to assume that because Kangal articulates the media/establishment line on most issues, which, and I am genuinely not trying to be insulting, would be a fair enough statement, that ipso facto he is a troll. I have no crystal ball which tells me one way or the other but if you go out into modern Ireland and debate politics with ordinary people, you will be stunned how many of them, clearly not trolls, think like Kangal does.

So we need to engage with people like that, hopefully persuade them differently on at least some matters of importance where I think they are flat out wrong, but not dismiss people out of hand with insults etc? Thats no way to proceed in my view....

And I think this is why you all fail to make any headway in convincing people of your views.
There's no attempt to engage...any attempt at debate is met with calls of "shill" and "troll", with heavy load of lies and misinformation thrown in for good measure.

Wolf's response above is a prime example.

MAF is another offender. He insists on replying to everything I post with an insult.

These posters may get personal satisfaction from these antics but they do the site and its cause no favours at all. Of course, this brings me a lot of satisfaction.

I can get banned and leave the site and they still keep posting about me, so we know they are the ones causing the problems, not me.

If these behaviors got curtailed the site might get more appealing to others though.

And we still have the problem of one poster manipulating the thread the way he likes by arbitrarily deleting posts.

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

You have no support on this site charlottesweb and have been unsuccessful in converting one member on this board with your evil endless propaganda

 

[Mad as Fish]

And I think this is why you all fail to make any headway in convincing people of your views.
There's no attempt to engage...any attempt at debate is met with calls of "shill" and "troll", with heavy load of lies and misinformation thrown in for good measure.

Wolf's response above is a prime example.

MAF is another offender. He insists on replying to everything I post with an insult.

These posters may get personal satisfaction from these antics but they do the site and its cause no favours at all. Of course, this brings me a lot of satisfaction.

I can get banned and leave the site and they still keep posting about me, so they are the ones causing the problems, not me.

If these behaviors got curtailed the site might get more appealing to others though.

You have proven your value here on many an occasion, and it less than zero, no matter what sort of spineless blubbering you bring to us now.

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

You have proven your value here on many an occasion, and it less than zero, no matter what sort of spineless blubbering you bring to us now.

Has charlottesweb commented on the us state departments press release in the aftermath of the Ukraine "aid" bill went through

 

[Kangal]

@scolairebocht

See the last 3 posts as further prime examples of what you're complaining about.

I'm not actually Charlottesweb either. That was a totally different poster.

I'll check back in a couple weeks to see if anything has changed.

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

@scolairebocht

See the last 3 posts as further prime examples of what you're complaining about.

You have one week to clean up your act or I will get @Declan to spam clean you

 

[Mad as Fish]

@scolairebocht

See the last 3 posts as further prime examples of what you're complaining about.

I'm not actually Charlottesweb either. That was a totally different poster.

I'll check back in a couple weeks to see if anything has changed.

You have one and the same modus operandi, and probably work from the same space, so it is immaterial as to whether you are the same person or not.

 

[Wolf]

You have one week to clean up your act or I will get @Declan to spam clean you

Again...

 

[Wolf]

@scolairebocht

See the last 3 posts as further prime examples of what you're complaining about.

I'm not actually Charlottesweb either. That was a totally different poster.

I'll check back in a couple weeks to see if anything has changed.

So you keep saying, yet you're here every day now crying to a moderator you've probably been annoying with PM's for a week pleading your 'innocence'.
You're a fucking retard, Charlotte, nobody wants you. You should be well used to that at this point in your miserable life.

 

[Wolf]

These posters may get personal satisfaction from these antics but they do the site and it's cause no favours at all. Of course, this brings me a lot of satisfaction.

And there is the rub for all to see.
This gimp wants this site destroyed in the same way he destroyed and forced politicalirish.com to close.

 

[Wolf]

LOL....
Sanctions....

War in Ukraine: Why is the EU still buying Russian gas? – DW – 04/29/2024

Although the EU has dramatically reduced the amount of Russian gas it imports, significant quantities are still flowing into the bloc.

www.dw.com

 

[Wolf]

And I think this is why you all fail to make any headway in convincing people of your views.
There's no attempt to engage...any attempt at debate is met with calls of "shill" and "troll", with heavy load of lies and misinformation thrown in for good measure.

Wolf's response above is a prime example.

MAF is another offender. He insists on replying to everything I post with an insult.

These posters may get personal satisfaction from these antics but they do the site and its cause no favours at all. Of course, this brings me a lot of satisfaction.

I can get banned and leave the site and they still keep posting about me, so we know they are the ones causing the problems, not me.

If these behaviors got curtailed the site might get more appealing to others though.

And we still have the problem of one poster manipulating the thread the way he likes by arbitrarily deleting posts.

The full post for all to see.

 

[Declan]

Getting back to the war. It seems to be all retreat for Ukraine these days and it is almost like the 62billion has in fact already been spent. The manufacturers have their 40 billion in the bank and likely back wages or whatever also banked in Ukraine. So now it is on to the next one which could be 300 billion. They are talking a 10 year commitment.

Fortunately but sadly, ukes are not infinite and they are growing ever scarser.

 

[Wolf]

Getting back to the war. It seems to be all retreat for Ukraine these days and it is almost like the 62billion has in fact already been spent. The manufacturers have their 40 billion in the bank and likely back wages or whatever also banked in Ukraine. So now it is on to the next one which could be 300 billion. They are talking a 10 year commitment.

Fortunately but sadly, ukes are not infinite and they are growing ever scarser.

There'll be snatch squads across Europe next pulling more young Ukrainian men off the streets for the slaughter.

 

[Wolf]

To think clowns and retards actually believe UK 'intelligence'
Did they find 'weapons of mass destruction' like the ones in Iraq too....

UK intelligence reports 900% surge in murders committed by military in Russia

UK Defence Intelligence has analysed data on a spike in the number of murders committed by the Russian military in Russia last year.

www.pravda.com.ua