An Open Letter to Atheists

[AN2]

My work is done James. Once again you lose. Thanks for walking into my trap once again. Checkmate.

If you want to entertain the casual reader by disputing this, then work away:


For the thoughtful reader, now is a fitting moment to pause and consider the worldview espoused by our modern magi, James and Tank.

According to their cosmological folklore, the universe is eternally giving birth to itself—like a cosmic chicken endlessly laying its own egg. A chicken which has always existed and was never created.

Yet, in a breathtaking feat of metaphysical gymnastics, they insist that each new "chicken" is not a new universe at all, but the same one repeating ad infinitum, a kind of astrophysical Groundhog Day.

This, dear reader, is the sad spectacle of atheist cosmology in our time: a self-refuting fable posing as serious science. A parody in search of reverence.

They won’t be living this down in a hurry. This has been an intriguing evening’s work, finally nailing them down in their absurd belief’s.

What part of strawmanning imbecile did you not understand?

You don't seem to understand that not wanting science to be lied about, particularly by religious fools like you, is not the "atheist worldview" under the bed that you think it is

 

[Tiger]

What part of strawmanning imbecile did you not understand?

Haha, it’s hilarious when you are drunk. You can’t string a coherent sentence together.

You don't seem to understand that not wanting science to be lied about, particularly by religious fools like you, is not the "atheist worldview" under the bed that you think it is

*glug glug*

What part of “you believe in a Groundhog Day universe that reboots itself forever but somehow isn’t multiple universes” did you not understand? You can shout “strawman” to mask your discomfort, but I’ve merely held up a mirror to your own cosmological fairy tale.

The idea that the same universe dies and resurrects endlessly, like a cosmic hamster wheel, isn’t science—it’s metaphysical pageantry. And if calling it out upsets your faith in speculative fiction, that says more about your worldview than mine.

What's notable is that you can't defend the utter silliness if your position.

 

[AN2]

Haha, it’s hilarious when you are drunk. You can’t string a coherent sentence together.

*glug glug*

What part of “you believe in a Groundhog Day universe that reboots itself forever but somehow isn’t multiple universes” did you not understand? You can shout “strawman” to mask your discomfort, but I’ve merely held up a mirror to your own cosmological fairy tale.

The idea that the same universe dies and resurrects endlessly, like a cosmic hamster wheel, isn’t science—it’s metaphysical pageantry. And if calling it out upsets your faith in speculative fiction, that says more about your worldview than mine.

What's notable is that you can't defend the utter silliness if your position.

lol I thought you were done

You don't know what a multiverse theory is - clear as day

What's also clear, is that you a have a very kneejerk reaction to it and it's obvious why

 

[Tiger]

lol I thought you were done

You don't know what a multiverse theory is - clear as day

What's also clear, is that you a have a very kneejerk reaction to it and it's obvious why

For the craic James, can you tell us what part of this statement below you disagree with. It’s been tumbleweeds so far.

For the thoughtful reader, now is a fitting moment to pause and consider the worldview espoused by our modern magi, James and Tank.

According to their cosmological folklore, the universe is eternally giving birth to itself—like a cosmic chicken endlessly laying its own egg. A chicken which has always existed and was never created.

Yet, in a breathtaking feat of metaphysical gymnastics, they insist that each new "chicken" is not a new universe at all, but the same one repeating ad infinitum, a kind of astrophysical Groundhog Day.

This, dear reader, is the sad spectacle of atheist cosmology in our time: a self-refuting fable posing as serious science. A parody in search of reverence.

They won’t be living this down in a hurry. This has been an intriguing evening’s work, finally nailing them down in their absurd belief’s.

 

[AN2]

lol I thought you were done

You don't know what a multiverse theory is - clear as day

What's also clear, is that you a have a very kneejerk reaction to it and it's obvious why

So, dear friends, why Tiger (and his ilk) has a kneejerk reaction to a multiverse theory (or any other theory that the morons think is one)...

It does away with;

1. A beginning (i.e. their creation myth)

2. "Fine-tuning" (which they think is their bestest argument, evar)

 

[Tiger]

So, dear friends, why Tiger (and his ilk) has a kneejerk reaction to a multiverse theory (or any other theory that the morons think is one)...

It does away with;

1. A beginning (i.e. their creation myth)

2. "Fine-tuning" (which they think is their bestest argument, evar)

Drunk James is hilarious.
His IQ goes from 95 to 65.

James you misspelled “ever” as “evar”, but that’s ok. You’re 5 whiskeys deep. Also when you re-read the first sentence back in the morning you’ll be embarrassed with how little sense it makes.


Faced with the absurdity of your Groundhog Day cosmos—the universe rebirthing itself endlessly like a chicken laying its own egg—you abandon explanation and reach for motive. But attributing “kneejerk reactions” and “myths” is not an argument, it’s an evasion. You haven’t answered the critique at all.

You’ve sidestepped the central charge: that your theory trades empirical science for speculative recursion and hopes no one notices. If CCC eliminates fine-tuning and a beginning, then let’s hear how—not just that it does, but how. Until then, it’s all posture and no substance.

 

[AN2]

Drunk James is hilarious.
His IQ goes from 95 to 65.

James you misspelled “ever” as “evar”,

lol Check out the big brain on Bret

but that’s ok. You’re 5 whiskeys deep. Also whe n you re-read the first sentence back in the morning you’ll be embarrassed with how little sense it makes.


Faced with the absurdity of your Groundhog Day cosmos—the universe rebirthing itself endlessly like a chicken laying its own egg—you abandon explanation and reach for motive. But attributing “kneejerk reactions” and “myths” is not an argument, it’s an evasion. You haven’t answered the critique at all.

You’ve sidestepped the central charge: that your theory trades empirical science for speculative recursion and hopes no one notices. If CCC eliminates fine-tuning and a beginning, then let’s hear how—not just that it does, but how. Until then, it’s all posture and no substance.

 

[AN2]

Drunk James is hilarious.
His IQ goes from 95 to 65.

James you misspelled “ever” as “evar”, but that’s ok. You’re 5 whiskeys deep. Also when you re-read the first sentence back in the morning you’ll be embarrassed with how little sense it makes.


Faced with the absurdity of your Groundhog Day cosmos—the universe rebirthing itself endlessly like a chicken laying its own egg—you abandon explanation and reach for motive. But attributing “kneejerk reactions” and “myths” is not an argument, it’s an evasion. You haven’t answered the critique at all.

You’ve sidestepped the central charge: that your theory trades empirical science for speculative recursion and hopes no one notices. If CCC eliminates fine-tuning and a beginning, then let’s hear how—not just that it does, but how. Until then, it’s all posture and no substance.

You can't possibly be this stupid

CCC is about a single, cyclical, universe

Tell me what you think is the beginning of that?

Tell me what you think CCC has to say about "fine-tuning"?

 

[Tiger]

You can't possibly be this stupid

CCC is about a single, cyclical, universe

Tell me what you think is the beginning of that?

Tell me what you think CCC has to say about "fine-tuning"?

C’mon James, just because you’re drunk doesn’t mean you can’t answer any questions.


If the universe has been endlessly cycling through aeons like a cosmic merry-go-round, could you clarify—preferably sober—how entropy resets itself each time without violating the Second Law of Thermodynamics, or do you believe the laws of physics also get a hangover and forget their job?

Looking forward to your thoughtful answer

 

[AN2]

C’mon James, just because you’re drunk doesn’t mean you can’t answer any questions.


If the universe has been endlessly cycling through aeons like a cosmic merry-go-round, could you clarify—preferably sober—how entropy resets itself each time without violating the Second Law of Thermodynamics, or do you believe the laws of physics also get a hangover and forget their job?

Looking forward to your thoughtful answer

CCC is about a single, cyclical, universe

Tell me what you think is the beginning of that?

Tell me what you think CCC has to say about "fine-tuning"?

 

[Tiger]

CCC is about a single, cyclical, universe

Is that right drunken James? Well isn’t that fascinating. Maybe you could refute the following claim, instead of dodging it like a coward.

If the universe has been endlessly cycling through aeons like a cosmic merry-go-round, could you clarify—preferably sober—how entropy resets itself each time without violating the Second Law of Thermodynamics, or do you believe the laws of physics also get a hangover and forget their job?

Tell me what you think is the beginning of that?

Beginning of what you drunken eejit?

Tell me what you think CCC has to say about "fine-tuning"?

It avoids it like the plague.

 

[AN2]

Is that right drunken James? Well isn’t that fascinating. Maybe you could refute the following claim, instead of dodging it like a coward.

If the universe has been endlessly cycling through aeons like a cosmic merry-go-round, could you clarify—preferably sober—how entropy resets itself each time without violating the Second Law of Thermodynamics, or do you believe the laws of physics also get a hangover and forget their job?

Beginning of what you drunken eejit?

R u serious?

The beginning of everything according to CCC

There isn't any

It avoids it like the plague.

In other words, there isn't any "fine-tuning" in CCC

With all of that now on board, can you comprehend that this is a stupid, strawmanning question -

Is CCC the most coherent explanation for the existence of the cosmos and its astonishing fine-tuning?

 

[Tiger]

R u serious?

The beginning of everything according to CCC

It’s hilarious to be debating with drunk James, however…

Saying “there is no beginning” is not an explanation of origins; it’s a denial that the question needs answering. That’s metaphysical sleight-of-hand, not science. It’s like responding to “where did the first domino come from?” with “there was always a domino before it.”

 

[AN2]

It’s hilarious to be debating with drunk James, however…

Saying “there is no beginning” is not an explanation of origins; it’s a denial that the question needs answering. That’s metaphysical sleight-of-hand, not science. It’s like responding to “where did the first domino come from?” with “there was always a domino before it.”

"Hey, this theory has nothing to say about X, so I'm going to ask someone if the theory is a good explanation for X"

- Mindless imbecility from you

 

[Tiger]

"Hey, this theory has nothing to say about X, so I'm going to ask someone if the theory is a good explanation for X"

- Mindless imbecility from you

Haha

 

[AN2]

Christianity does seem to be on the upwswing and this doesn't especially bother me because it tends to coincide with conservative values. I'd rather live with people who fear an omnipotent moral creator which imposes morality clauses on them and drives them, albeit abstractly and occasionally invectively, towards good and self-sacrifice than with souless woke atheist troons who believe in nothing beyond the fulfilment of their endless panoply of needs and narcissistic desires. In fact, I believe this is what is driving the increase in religious subscription; meaninglessness. A combination of meaninglessness and cultural isolation, alienation. I've never met a man who just found Jesus after hitting the lottery, if you know what I mean.

You know, I was watching the latest Season of Clarkson's Farm recently, and in one episode Jeremy was going over the collapse of the English village which is well underway currently. It was very revealing. He made the point that village doctors no longer really exist, and that pubs are collapsing hand-over-fist. So are local shops. What exactly is a village? If there's no local doctor, no local shops, and not even a local watering hole...what exactly is left? A kind of housing estate. Whatever that is, it's not a village.

Christianity isn't the threat. Christians like Tiger are. It's important that the evangelical equivalent of O'Brian from 1984 (albeit far stupider) and his ilk remain relegated to where they belong: On the street corner with a megaphone, and a large picket sign emblazoned with some slogan that is completely; polemical or anodine, but equally retarded in either case.

What does this diatribe of yours have to do with what was being discussed or the post you replied to?

 

[AN2]

Haha

Isn't it way past your bedtime?

 

[Fishalt]

What does this diatribe of yours have to do with what was being discussed or the post you replied to?

Absolutely nothing. I just don't have any respect for the subject.

 

[AN2]

Absolutely nothing. I just don't have any respect for the subject.

I get it now, like Tiger, you're a science illiterate, which is why you can't involve yourself in a discussion about science

I'm sorry for what happened to you

 

[Haven]

Simply repeating "it's limited" like an incantation doesn’t transform your position into an argument.

That certainly applies to everything you say.

If you believe CCC is more than imaginative conjecture, then say how.

More imaginative? What does that mean? More imaginative than what?

Show me (and everyone else) the empirical evidence.

Of what?

Otherwise, dismissing my critique without engaging with its substance isn’t a rebuttal.

Every accusation is an admission.

 

[Haven]

My work is done James. Once again you lose. Thanks for walking into my trap once again. Checkmate.

If you want to entertain the casual reader by disputing this, then work away:


For the thoughtful reader, now is a fitting moment to pause and consider the worldview espoused by our modern magi, James and Tank.

According to their cosmological folklore, the universe is eternally giving birth to itself—like a cosmic chicken endlessly laying its own egg. A chicken which has always existed and was never created.

Yet, in a breathtaking feat of metaphysical gymnastics, they insist that each new "chicken" is not a new universe at all, but the same one repeating ad infinitum, a kind of astrophysical Groundhog Day.

This, dear reader, is the sad spectacle of atheist cosmology in our time: a self-refuting fable posing as serious science. A parody in search of reverence.

They won’t be living this down in a hurry. This has been an intriguing evening’s work, finally nailing them down in their absurd belief’s.

Your ChatGPT outputed the same content twice. You need to adjust your prompts.

 

[AN2]

Christianity does seem to be on the upwswing

Don't get @scolairebocht excited

and this doesn't especially bother me because it tends to coincide with conservative values.

Agreed, if it's conservative

I'd rather live with people who fear an omnipotent moral creator which imposes morality clauses on them and drives them, albeit abstractly and occasionally invectively, towards good and self-sacrifice than with souless woke atheist troons who believe in nothing beyond the fulfilment of their endless panoply of needs and narcissistic desires. In fact, I believe this is what is driving the increase in religious subscription; meaninglessness. A combination of meaninglessness and cultural isolation, alienation. I've never met a man who just found Jesus after hitting the lottery, if you know what I mean.

You know, I was watching the latest Season of Clarkson's Farm recently

You should really stop watching television. It just makes you a boomer like Jeremy Clarkson is (and you're only about fifteen)

, and in one episode Jeremy was going over the collapse of the English village which is well underway currently. It was very revealing. He made the point that village doctors no longer really exist, and that pubs are collapsing hand-over-fist. So are local shops. What exactly is a village? If there's no local doctor, no local shops, and not even a local watering hole...what exactly is left? A kind of housing estate. Whatever that is, it's not a village.

Christianity isn't the threat. Christians like Tiger are.

Tiger is a fruitcake

And, I wonder, what would happen if he got a serious bang on the head, know what I mean?

You've heard about this, right? When people have a serious head injury (essentially brain damage), their personality can change. What would happen if that happened to Tiger, if he stopped being a belieber Then it would be open season for him to rape and murder

That's exactly what they say about us (atheists). The highly insulting insinuation, that we can't possibly have morals because we're not religious

Of course, theists like Tiger don't think that it's even possible to insult an atheist, we're just subhuman vermin to them, so you better watch out for that, too

It's important that the evangelical equivalent of O'Brian from 1984 (albeit far stupider) and his ilk remain relegated to where they belong: On the street corner with a megaphone, and a large picket sign emblazoned with some slogan that is completely; polemical or anodine, but equally retarded in either case.

Overall, I think a conservative Christianity is good. But it's basically the moral code of (enlightened) white people

 

[Wolf]

Great thread for keeping out two resident mentally ill freaks together.
Or is it just the one?

 

[Tiger]

Great thread for keeping out two resident mentally ill freaks together.
Or is it just the one?

I know, yesterday’s performance from them both was gold.

They both admitted to believing that the universe shits itself into existence….over and over again….forever and ever

Humiliated by this, James then proceeded to get drunk and made a right fool of himself.

When he’s drunk and wounded from defeat, he always ends the night with a pathetic threat of violence (see post above).

 

[Tiger]

Tiger is a fruitcake

And, I wonder, what would happen if he got a serious bang on the head, know what I mean?

You've heard about this, right? When people have a serious head injury (essentially brain damage), their personality can change. What would happen if that happened to Tiger, if he stopped being a belieber Then it would be open season for him to rape and murder

Scarlah.

James, you need to start laying off of the booze. These threats of violence are utterly pathetic.

You need to learn how to take your medicine better.

 

[Wolf]

I know, yesterday’s performance from them both was gold.

They both admitted to believing that the universe shits itself into existence….over and over again….forever and ever

Humiliated by this, James then proceeded to get drunk and made a right fool of himself.

When he’s drunk and wounded from defeat, he always ends the night with a pathetic threat of violence (see post above).

The accounts post throughout the night, a sure sign of a mental illness.
It's really funny.

 

[Haven]

They both admitted to believing that the universe shits itself into existence….over and over again….forever and ever

Where did I say I believe that?

 

[AN2]

Great thread for keeping out two resident mentally ill freaks together.
Or is it just the one?

The accounts post throughout the night, a sure sign of a mental illness.
It's really funny.

I have reported both of these posts for:

1. Spam
2. Stalking
3. Abuse

 

[AN2]

@Mods, can you ban Wolf from the thread please

He hasn't made a single on-topic post and he never will. He's simply posting here to spam, stalk and abuse

 

[AN2]

I know, yesterday’s performance from them both was gold.

They both admitted to believing that the universe shits itself into existence….over and over again….forever and ever

Humiliated by this, James then proceeded to get drunk and made a right fool of himself.

When he’s drunk and wounded from defeat, he always ends the night with a pathetic threat of violence (see post above).

Where did I do that?

Please correct your lie

 

[SwordOfStZip]

@Mods, can you ban Wolf from the thread please

He hasn't made a single on-topic post and he never will. He's simply posting here to spam, stalk and abuse

This is on a Self Moderated forum.

 

[AN2]

This is on a Self Moderated forum.

I suppose a site ban is out of the question?

Can you delete his spam-stalk-abuse off-topic posts? (they're not hard to spot)

 

[AN2]

Where did I say I believe that?

He's obviously talking about Penrose’s CCC

They're strange people aren't they. The mere act of discussing and/or correcting them on a theoretical physics theory and that automatically means that you believe it to be true

I presume it's a religious (as well as low IQ) thing

 

[SwordOfStZip]

I suppose a site ban is out of the question?

Can you delete his spam-stalk-abuse off-topic posts? (they're not hard to spot)

You should private message @scolairebocht and ask him to do so.

On a personal level I don't think the idea of self moderated threads was a good one.

 

[AN2]

You should private message @scolairebocht and ask him to do so.

On a personal level I don't think the idea of self moderated threads was a good one.

I agree with you and I've said that before

You really only have to look at Tiger to know that it's a bad idea but generally speaking, I think mods should do the moderating site-wide

 

[Tiger]

He's obviously talking about Penrose’s CCC

They're strange people aren't they. The mere act of discussing and/or correcting them on a theoretical physics theory and that automatically means that you believe it to be true

I presume it's a religious (as well as low IQ) thing

Haha, backtracking already

I love a good win.

 

[Tiger]

I agree with you and I've said that before

You really only have to look at Tiger to know that it's a bad idea but generally speaking, I think mods should do the moderating site-wide

Oh, the phucking irony.

Yesterday evening I had to delete some of your vile off topic abusive posts against Plunkett and you moaned like a pussy about, and here you are begging mods to remove some remarkably tame posts from Wolf and have him site banned.

You have zero self awareness.

 

[AN2]

Haha, backtracking already

I love a good win.

I'm not backtracking on anything

You really do fall into the deluded category

Are you gong to withdraw your false accusation of me threatening violence?

I know that this is a self-moderated thread, but I really do think that the site should deal with a serious false accusation regardless of what thread it was made in

 

[Tiger]

I'm not backtracking on anything

You really do fall into the deluded category

Are you gong to withdraw your false accusation of me threatening violence?

I know that this is a self-moderated thread, but I really do think that the site should deal with a serious false accusation regardless of what thread it was made in

Everyone can read the English language James. We can read your drunken post above.

Now that you’ve sobered up you have to spend time undoing all your mess from last night.

 

[AN2]

Every can read the English language James.

Actually no, you're living proof

We can read your drunken post above.

Now that you’ve sobered up you have to spend time undoing all your mess from last night.