Andrew Gold Tackles The Taboo Topic Of Race Realism

[Roc_]

You and your "IQ" shtick.

Jambo, it's a test that was invented for one specific administrative purpose - to identify students who needed extra help in school. The inventor, a chap called Binet, designed the test to mirror school tasks, not to measure genius.

But Jambo, when you look closer at many of these allegedly superior high IQ people, particularly on this forum (taking yourself and godsdog - according to your own claims of having a high IQ) - then doesn't the evidence becomes compelling that what the test is actually measuring, when applied outside the school environment, is actually unintelligence, learning difficulties, and the observation it selects for unimaginative exam-takers, and paper shufflers?

You two morons are obviously so unintelligent that you both go for every conspiracy minded narrative going. For starters.

Apart from that we find it's "a concept poorly thought out mathematically, fails to properly deal with dimensionality, treats the mind as an instrument not a complex system, and seems to be promoted by racists [like yourself] and eugenists [like yourself], and psychometrics peddlers looking for suckers, and people with inferior complexes [like yourself] seeking to put people (and, worse, groups) into boxes for the rest of their lives".

I can assure you that I could come up with a test much better at detecting losers and morons than Binet's test - as a longtime observer of twats like you and godsdog on these fora.

 

[The Equalizer]

View: https://t.me/ihypocritical/22534

 

[Haven]

Jambo, whats your end game here?

Whats the ideal state?

How do you want society structured and who do you want in it? What would be your place and my place in it? Paint the picture for us.

@The Equalizer

 

[The Equalizer]

Jambo, whats your end game here?

Whats the ideal state?

How do you want society structured and who do you want in it? What would be your place and my place in it? Paint the picture for us.

@The Equalizer

I told you just the other day.. I'm not particularly good at understanding brain farts, yours or anyone else's.

If you would like to contextualise i.e. add some context to your questions, then I could probably give better answers..

 

[Roc_]

Sounds pretty straight forward to anyone with even half a brain, Jamboi.

 

[The Equalizer]

Sounds pretty straight forward to anyone with even half a brain, Jamboi.

Well then put it in context..

 

[The Equalizer]

Jambo, whats your end game here?

Whats the ideal state?

How do you want society structured and who do you want in it? What would be your place and my place in it? Paint the picture for us.

@The Equalizer

This is a thread about race realism (versus race denialism).

What if you had no clue whatsoever about the subject matter of the thread. How would you go about answering the above ^ questions, or why would you even bother.

 

[Haven]

This is a thread about race realism (versus race denialism).

What if you had no clue whatsoever about the subject matter of the thread. How would you go about answering the above ^ questions, or why would you even bother.

So you do understand the questions.

But you can't answer them.

Grand so.

 

[Aldo3]

So you do understand the questions.

But you can't answer them.

Grand so.

You need to log out and sign in to the roc_ account. Otherwise it looks obvious, thicko.

 

[The Equalizer]

So you do understand the questions.

I understand English.

But you can't answer them.

Grand so.

You were given the opportunity to provide some context, you didn't, you're just brainfarting..

Again, questions such as -

Whats your end game here?

Whats the ideal state?

How do you want society structured and who do you want in it? What would be your place and my place in it?

Are just too nebulous, of course I can answer them, but I wouldn't know exactly what you're asking me.

 

[The Equalizer]

On that note I think we need a thread on autism

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1lL-hXO27Q

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

You and your "IQ" shtick. Jambo, it's a test that was invented for one specific administrative purpose - to identify students who needed extra help in school.

I thought it was invented by the US army to vet recruits for WW2?

 

[Haven]

I understand English.


You were given the opportunity to provide some context, you didn't, you're just brainfarting..

Again, questions such as -

Whats your end game here?

Whats the ideal state?

How do you want society structured and who do you want in it? What would be your place and my place in it?

Are just too nebulous, of course I can answer them, but I wouldn't know exactly what you're asking me.

The context is your "pro-white" position that is the only thing you talk about on this forum.

If you were suddenly elevated to government, what would you do?

 

[Haven]

You need to log out and sign in to the roc_ account. Otherwise it looks obvious, thicko.

Have a tug and calm down, Aldo.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Never thought I'd see Sparky using a Jew to explain things.

 

[The Equalizer]

The context is your "pro-white" position that is the only thing you talk about on this forum.

No, the context is race realism versus race denialism. And now you're asking me what I would do if I was emperor

Can you say what race you are? I find that useful because if an anti-white, like you, is white then I can confirm it as a mental illness.

If you were suddenly elevated to government, what would you do?

 

[The Equalizer]

Never thought I'd see Sparky using a Jew to explain things.

Tilly isn't a Jew, Myles.

She's also knee-deep in the social sciences, it's what she's studying at university, which makes her the perfect candidate to expose race denialism.

*There is no actual science involved in race denialism.

 

[Haven]

No, the context is race realism versus race denialism. And now you're asking me what I would do if I was emperor

Can you say what race you are? I find that useful because if an anti-white, like you, is white then I can confirm it as a mental illness.

So I give the context of my questions as you requested.

But it never mattered as you immediately redefined the context to suit yourself.

Then you refuse to answer the questions, and instead pose your own.

You're a walking joke.

 

[The Equalizer]

So I give the context of my questions as you requested.

But it never mattered as you immediately redefined the context to suit yourself.

Then you refuse to answer the questions, and instead pose your own.

You're a walking joke.

You're the joke, pal. Asking me - What would you do if you were emperor? had absolutely no context in this thread.

I'm really starting to get a figure for your IQ (it's bad news I'm afraid).

 

[The Equalizer]

Jambo, whats your end game here?

Race realism

Whats the ideal state?

Race realism

How do you want society structured and who do you want in it?

Race realists

What would be your place and my place in it? Paint the picture for us.

Race realism becomes widely accepted as the truth that it is, and race denialism is exposed as the lie that it is

@The Equalizer

 

[Haven]

Race realism

Ok.

https://philarchive.org/rec/BELRR-2

"Derrick Bell and Racial Realism": A conversation with Timothy Golden (Keywords: Critical Race Theory; Justice; Despair; Progress; Obama; Mass Incarceration)

"Black Americans are painfully reminded that racism has worsened since Obama’s presidency, not improved."

www.thephilosopher1923.org

 

[The Equalizer]

Ok.

https://philarchive.org/rec/BELRR-2

"Derrick Bell and Racial Realism": A conversation with Timothy Golden (Keywords: Critical Race Theory; Justice; Despair; Progress; Obama; Mass Incarceration)

"Black Americans are painfully reminded that racism has worsened since Obama’s presidency, not improved."

www.thephilosopher1923.org

lol Even you, even you couldn't possibly be so stupid to think that that's what this thread is about.

But okay, lets ask AI about "racial" realism..

Race denialism is the biggest lie told about the human species since trannyism.

And I'm reminded that Haven posted this video himself -

Post in thread 'Jambo’s Jargon' https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com/threads/jambo’s-jargon.1500/post-162161

In which Dawkins says that race is a biological reality and the idea of it being social construct is "nonsense". That's how fucken stupid Haven is

 

[Haven]

lol Even you, even you couldn't possibly be so stupid to think that that's what this thread is about.

But okay, lets ask AI about "racial" realism..

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Race denialism is the biggest lie told about the human species since trannyism.

And I'm reminded that Haven posted this video himself -

Post in thread 'Jambo’s Jargon' https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com/threads/jambo’s-jargon.1500/post-162161

In which Dawkins says that race is a biological reality and the idea of it being social construct is "nonsense". That's how fucken stupid Haven is

Moving on from these lies, whats your take on Bell?

Which I now see is number 2 in your AI search but you decided not to screenshot it.

 

[The Equalizer]

Moving on from these lies,

What lies?

whats your take on Bell?

Which I now see is number 2 in your AI search but you decided not to screenshot it.

You are trolling the thread. And you have the audacity to complain about your (numerous) thread bans?!

If you want to discuss "racial realism", start your own thread.

 

[Haven]

What lies?


You are trolling the thread. And you have the audacity to complain about your (numerous) thread bans?!

If you want to discuss "racial realism", start your own thread.

Here is Number 2 that you could not post.

Socio-Legal Usage

In a separate context within critical race theory, the term "racial realism" (coined by legal scholar Derrick Bell) describes the perspective that racism is a permanent and enduring feature of society. This framework suggests that the pursuit of total racial equality is an unrealistic goal and that acknowledging the permanence of racism allows minority groups to implement more pragmatic legal and social strategies for survival and advancement.

 

[The Equalizer]

Here is Number 2 that you could not post.

Socio-Legal Usage

In a separate context within critical race theory, the term "racial realism" (coined by legal scholar Derrick Bell) describes the perspective that racism is a permanent and enduring feature of society. This framework suggests that the pursuit of total racial equality is an unrealistic goal and that acknowledging the permanence of racism allows minority groups to implement more pragmatic legal and social strategies for survival and advancement.

It's right there in the screenshot.

Race realism and "racial" realism are not the same thing, start your own thread if you wish to discuss racial realism.

And quit trolling this one.

 

[Haven]

It's right there in the screenshot.

Race realism and "racial" realism are not the same thing, start your own thread if you wish to discuss racial realism.

And quit trolling this one.

You only posted the pseudoscientic one. Not the legal-phil theory.

Go on. Post the full set of screenshots for what AI said.

 

[The Equalizer]

You only posted the pseudoscientic one. Not the legal-phil theory.

Go on. Post the full set of screenshots for what AI said.

They're two completely different topics.

You only have two options:

1. Admit that you're mentally retarded.

Or,

2. Admit that you're a troll.

 

[Haven]

They're two completely different topics.

You only have two options:

1. Admit that you're mentally retarded.

Or,

2. Admit that you're a troll.

You won't do it.

You've been caught bang to rights nonetheless. I win again

Unless....AI is wrong?

But then where does your recent bizarre post on a German Shepard bred in England stand?

For everyone else, heres the full AI answer.

Google Search

 

[The Equalizer]

You won't do it.

I don't particularly know or care what you're asking me or what you're telling me I didn't do.

If you do not understand that they're two completely different things, one being the subject matter of this thread and the other not, then you are mentally retarded.

If you do know and you persist with your trolling, then I would ask @Declan to thread ban you.

You've been caught bang to rights nonetheless. I win again

Unless....AI is wrong?

But then where does your recent bizarre post on a German Shepard bred in England stand?

For everyone else, heres the full AI answer.

Google Search

 

[Haven]

I don't particularly know or care what you're asking me or what you're telling me I didn't do.

If you do not understand that they're two completely different things, one being the subject matter of this thread and the other not, then you are mentally retarded.

If you do know and you persist with your trolling, then I would ask @Declan to thread ban you.

You posted a screenshot from AI that you thought supported your argument, but left out a very important second part from the AI answer that blows up your position.

If you want to have me banned for pointing this out, go right ahead.

Here is the full AI answer:

"Race realism" can refer to two distinct concepts: a discredited biological theory (often called "scientific racism") and a legal/philosophical concept in Critical Race Theory.

1. Biological Race Realism (Scientific Racism)

This pseudoscientific perspective claims that human racial categories reflect real, biologically distinct subgroups. It posits that:Biological Taxonomy: Humans can be cleanly divided into genetic categories (such as Caucasian, African, and Asian) based on geographic ancestry.Hereditarianism: Physical and psychological traits—including cognitive ability, behavior, and temperament—are genetically predetermined along these racial lines.Disparities: This perspective argues that socioeconomic or behavioral differences between groups are primarily caused by innate genetic differences rather than environmental or societal factors.Scientific Consensus: The overwhelming majority of modern geneticists, biologists, and anthropologists consider biological race realism to be invalid. Modern genomics shows that human genetic variation is highly continuous and that there are no clear, discrete racial boundaries.

2. Legal and Philosophical Race Realism

Advocated by scholars like Derrick Bell, this concept within Critical Race Theory takes an entirely different, sociopolitical approach. It posits that:

Permanence of Racism:
Racism is an ingrained, permanent feature of society, rather than an anomaly that can be completely eradicated through colorblind legal principles.Critique of Idealism: The pursuit of "abstract racial equality" (idealism) is often used to maintain the status quo and cause harm.

Pragmatism:
Rather than hoping for a post-racial society, this realism asserts that racial groups must acknowledge these permanent structures to pragmatically navigate the world, build coalitions, and demand concrete rights.

 

[The Equalizer]

You posted a screenshot from AI that you thought supported your argument,

My "argument" is and always has been correct: This thread is not about what you're trolling about or too mentally retarded to understand.

but left out a very important second part from the AI answer that blows up your position.

If you want to have me banned for pointing this out, go right ahead.

Yes, @Declan, can you please thread ban Haven.

Here is the full AI answer:

"Race realism" can refer to two distinct concepts: a discredited biological theory (often called "scientific racism") and a legal/philosophical concept in Critical Race Theory.

1. Biological Race Realism (Scientific Racism)

This pseudoscientific perspective claims that human racial categories reflect real, biologically distinct subgroups. It posits that:Biological Taxonomy: Humans can be cleanly divided into genetic categories (such as Caucasian, African, and Asian) based on geographic ancestry.Hereditarianism: Physical and psychological traits—including cognitive ability, behavior, and temperament—are genetically predetermined along these racial lines.Disparities: This perspective argues that socioeconomic or behavioral differences between groups are primarily caused by innate genetic differences rather than environmental or societal factors.Scientific Consensus: The overwhelming majority of modern geneticists, biologists, and anthropologists consider biological race realism to be invalid. Modern genomics shows that human genetic variation is highly continuous and that there are no clear, discrete racial boundaries.

2. Legal and Philosophical Race Realism

Advocated by scholars like Derrick Bell, this concept within Critical Race Theory takes an entirely different, sociopolitical approach. It posits that:

Permanence of Racism:
Racism is an ingrained, permanent feature of society, rather than an anomaly that can be completely eradicated through colorblind legal principles.Critique of Idealism: The pursuit of "abstract racial equality" (idealism) is often used to maintain the status quo and cause harm.

Pragmatism:
Rather than hoping for a post-racial society, this realism asserts that racial groups must acknowledge these permanent structures to pragmatically navigate the world, build coalitions, and demand concrete rights.

 

[Roc_]

View: https://t.me/ihypocritical/22534

This turd deliberately neglects to tell us that this chap Frimer is a "professor" of moral and political psychology.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1lL-hXO27Q

Haha and then you cite Feynman who couldn't be clearer on his attitude to "soft" sciences like psychology.

Feynman: - "Incidentally, psycho-analysis is not a science: it is at best a medical process, and perhaps even more like witch-doctoring. It has a theory as to what causes disease - lots of different 'spirits' etc. The witch doctor has a theory that a disease like malaria is caused by a spirit which comes into the air ; it is not cured by shaking a snake over it, but quinine does help malaria. So, if you are sick, I would advise that you go to the witch doctor because he is the man in the tribe who knows the most about the disease; on the other hand his knowledge is not science. Psychoanalysis has not been checked carefully by experiment."

Of course Feynman's assessment of metrics like IQ are also on the record:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuUSP7NUYSo

"Even with an IQ of only 125, Feynman repeatedly outperformed physicists with IQ scores above 160–190 during the most complex scientific missions in history — including the Manhattan Project and the Challenger disaster investigation.In this video, you’ll discover why IQ tests measure the wrong thing entirely, and why real intelligence has nothing to do with memorizing patterns or scoring high on exams."

You're some gobshite Jambo.

Is it beginning to dawn on you that your little childhood performances of memorising chess patterns actually had nothing to do with intelligence (and that your parents' parading you around as a child prodigy on this spurious basis has permanently damaged you?)

"Race realism" can refer to two distinct concepts: a discredited biological theory (often called "scientific racism") and a legal/philosophical concept in Critical Race Theory.
1. Biological Race Realism (Scientific Racism)

Well as this thread exhibits, "race realism" in Jambo jargon equals something else that only Jambo and his ws cult understand.

And they have their own special insider dogmatic language that excludes the commonly understood meanings that you're helpfully trying to highlight for them.