Andrew Gold Tackles The Taboo Topic Of Race Realism

Please note that Dawkins is a renowned biologist and @Haven is a care in the community case.
 
Whats the context?
Ah would you ever cop yourself on, troll.

You said:

"There is no biological backing for the ideas of races or human subspecies."

You also posted a video of Dawkins contradicting your statement.

I'm asking you why you did that (the latter). Is it because you're retarded?
 
Its pseudoscience.

If races were a "real" biological thing, you'd expect them to work kind of like animal breeds.....clear categories where members of one group share a specific set of traits that clearly separate them from another group. Like how a Chihuahua and a Great Dane are pretty obviously different "types" of dog. Remember your German Shepard AI post?

When human DNA is examined however they see no clear lines. If you traveled slowly from, say, Nigeria to Egypt to Turkey to Germany, the DNA of people along that path changes little by little the whole way. There's no spot where you can say "okay, HERE is where one race stops and the next one starts." It's all one long gradual blend, not separate chunks.
Even then, people in the same "race" can be more different from each other than people in different "races." Two people who'd both get called "White" could actually have more genetic differences between them than one of them has compared to someone called "Asian." That breaks the whole idea of race being a tight genetic package.
I always find it hilarious that race deniers use the reality of race to deny the reality of race 🤣

Specific big boxes labeled "race" don't match how genes are actually organized. It's more like humanity is one long, blended spectrum, and race is a label people put on top of it — not something built into the DNA itself.

Lets discuss something real instead.

Derrick Bell is a great place to restart the thread.
 
Ah would you ever cop yourself on, troll.

You said:

"There is no biological backing for the ideas of races or human subspecies."

You also posted a video of Dawkins contradicting your statement.

I'm asking you why you did that (the latter). Is it because you're retarded?
Woah.

I'm asking the context as you have repeatedly done before.
 
Woah.

I'm asking the context as you have repeatedly done before.
Yes, because there wasn't any context to your questions. Which was actually subsequently confirmed.

Here, the context is clear as day, troll.
 
You were given the opportunity to provide some context, you didn't, you're just brainfarting.
You're just repeating the truths I've told about you as lies about me. This is low IQ, spastic behaviour that I'm quite familiar with (Gowl).

Once again, I ask for the troll to be removed from the thread.
 
You're just repeating the truths I've told about you as lies about me. This is low IQ, spastic behaviour that I'm quite familiar with (Gowl).

Once again, I ask for the troll to be removed from the thread.
So you admit to engaging in low IQ, spastic behaviour. Thank you.

As I have already shown, there is no biological basis for the idea of races.

If you have any verifiable data that suggests otherwise, do let us know.
 
You continue to have a huge problem dealing with verified and proved facts.

The tell is always obvious, you try to avoid the issue and distract with other bullshit.
Talk about the kettle calling the pot black!
That's your stock in trade, you stupid Bunny.:LOL:
 
So you admit to engaging in low IQ, spastic behaviour. Thank you.
🤦‍♂️

As I have already shown, there is no biological basis for the idea of races.
No, you haven't.

I replied to the only possible post I can think of in which you imagined you have.

If you have any verifiable data that suggests otherwise, do let us know.
You still haven't told us why you posted a video by Richard Dawkins which directly refutes your claim.
 
If you have any verifiable data that suggests otherwise, do let us know.
Jambo is so far gone down the Dylan Roof rabbit hole that hard proof actually makes him cling all the tighter to his ideology. You basically can't argue directly with facts in Jambo's case, if any of those facts entail abandoning his quasi-religious beliefs. He will simply ignore them and revert to his incessantly repeated catchcries.


All of what you're talking about has actually been gone over with Jambo many times before. E.g.

Says you.

He illustrated evolutionary distance to those ancestors. He did that specifically to make his point about how incredibly uniform we are as a species.

He talked about two distinct "Out of Africa" migrations. The first, Homo Erectus, a little over 1.5 million years ago, who left Africa and colonized Asia, Europe, and definitely Indonesia as well. (Now extinct).

The second migration Dawkins said was extremely recent, less than 100,000 years ago. (Reminiscent of what seems to be showing up in the Trinity research data of Dan Bradley and Bob Quinn's investigations in his documentaries that I sometimes post up for interest.)

He then talked of human genetic uniformity saying if you look molecularly at the molecules of modern human races, we are astonishingly uniform.

He pointed out that such genetic variation as there is exists mostly within Africa.

He said this suggests that the deepest divides of cousinship in our species are within Africa itself. While the whole of the rest of the world is "a very, very recent branch-off of the human species."

He said if you look at the amount of genetic variation in the human species, it's extremely low. He said if you take two chimpanzees from the same forest in Africa, they are likely to be more different from each other genetically than any two humans in the world.

He finished by noting how surprising this may be to people less inclined to abstract thinking like yourself when you consider that races look so different to our eyes.

But he emphasised that the genetics is very clear
- that we are an astonishingly uniform species, that we are all one species, one very uniform species, and we originated very recently in Africa.

And that is exactly what he said. And he wore the t shirt to emphasise his words.

Also noting Dawkins goes further in acknowledging these tiny inter racial differences than most of his scientific peers who say they are too small and scattered across "racial groups" to be significant - who emphasise that "... no group of people is, or ever has been, biologically homogeneous or “pure.” Furthermore, human populations are not — and never have been — biologically discrete, truly isolated, or fixed. Genetic and phenotypic variants are not distributed across our species in a manner that maps clearly onto socially-recognized racial groups. This is true even for aspects of human variation that we frequently emphasise in discussions of race, such as facial features, skin color and hair type..."
 
Categorisation of Race Deniers

I think this might be a useful exercise to do with our two resident race deniers here, Haven and roc.

Starting with Haven..

@Haven

Haven is an apex race denier. Meaning he completely rejects the biological reality of race.

@Roc_

roc really never seems to know whether he's coming or going with this subject.

He has made utterances before admitting that race is a biological reality but then, of course, claims that the differences are merely superficial (only skin deep).

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I rate Haven as a category 1 race denier and roc as a (confused) category 2 race denier.
 
Categorisation of Race Deniers

I think this might be a useful exercise to do with our two resident race deniers here, Haven and roc.

Starting with Haven..

@Haven

Haven is an apex race denier. Meaning he completely rejects the biological reality of race.

@Roc_

roc really never seems to know whether he's coming or going with this subject.

He has made utterances before admitting that race is a biological reality but then, of course, claims that the differences are merely superficial (only skin deep).

--

I rate Haven as a category 1 race denier and roc as a (confused) category 2 race denier.
I'd just rate him as a fat 63 year old Middle Eastern troll with a bad case of schizophrenia.
 
Jambo is so far gone down the Dylan Roof rabbit hole that hard proof actually makes him cling all the tighter to his ideology. You basically can't argue directly with facts in Jambo's case, if any of those facts entail abandoning his quasi-religious beliefs. He will simply ignore them and revert to his incessantly repeated catchcries.


All of what you're talking about has actually been gone over with Jambo many times before. E.g.
I could not be arsed going over the Dawkins vid again, thanks for doing so.
The fact he can't accept what is actually said, and tries to gaslight otherwise, is some kind of weird psychosis. I cant explain it otherwise. Anyone can watch the video and see exactly what is said. Why fight trying to say otherwise? Bizarre. I wonder how many more times he is going to tell us he doesn't know what he is talking about here. Its really all on him. He's really fucking up his cause when he goes on like this, but weirdly can't see it.
 
Categorisation of Race Deniers

I think this might be a useful exercise to do with our two resident race deniers here, Haven and roc.

Starting with Haven..

@Haven

Haven is an apex race denier. Meaning he completely rejects the biological reality of race.

@Roc_

roc really never seems to know whether he's coming or going with this subject.

He has made utterances before admitting that race is a biological reality but then, of course, claims that the differences are merely superficial (only skin deep).

--

I rate Haven as a category 1 race denier and roc as a (confused) category 2 race denier.

 
I could not be arsed going over the Dawkins vid again, thanks for doing so.
I have now extended your options:

1. Admit that you didn't watch the video.
2. Admit that you're a troll.
3. Admit that you're mentally retarded.

The fact he can't accept what is actually said, and tries to gaslight otherwise, is some kind of weird psychosis. I cant explain it otherwise. Anyone can watch the video and see exactly what is said. Why fight trying to say otherwise? Bizarre. I wonder how many more times he is going to tell us he doesn't know what he is talking about here. Its really all on him. He's really fucking up his cause when he goes on like this, but weirdly can't see it.
 
... The fact he can't accept what is actually said, and tries to gaslight otherwise, is some kind of weird psychosis. I cant explain it otherwise. Anyone can watch the video and see exactly what is said. Why fight trying to say otherwise? Bizarre. I wonder how many more times he is going to tell us he doesn't know what he is talking about here. Its really all on him. He's really fucking up his cause when he goes on like this, but weirdly can't see it.
Totally fucking bizarre, I agree. Jambo is basically the far right version of the far left chump below. Yin and yang.


View: https://x.com/nypost/status/2079501570442473492?s=20
 
Jarrett/Jambo
Yin/Yang.
roc, quit spamming the thread with your increasingly desperate, nonsensical off-topic gibberish and clarify your race denialism..

Do you believe that race is a biological reality (as Dawkins does), yes or no?
 

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